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[Giallo Corsa]

Xbox Game Pass, the most UNaffordable deal in gaming

Halo won't be back

 

[Halo is Back]

Halo won't be back

 

[solidus12]

Damn

 

[xellos2099alpha]

Well, i got 1 and half year of game pass ultimate left... might as well enjoy iy

 

[zedinen]

It looks like Don Mattrick was replaced by Michael Scott

 

[Ozzie666]

It's shocking that the face of XBOX is NOWHERE to be seen. What a fucking coward. I hope he is in the process of getting his payout.

Own up to your bullshit without the Spencer spin.

 

[Shmunter]

Rehosted for the UK peasants:

Hope this over the top reaction wasn't just to the yet to be unveiled ad supported tier.

 

[demigod]

It's shocking that the face of XBOX is NOWHERE to be seen. What a fucking coward. I hope he is in the process of getting his payout.

Own up to your bullshit without the Spencer spin.

All the execs whore themselves in interviews but when it comes to bad news, they're all in hiding.

 

[reinking]

Rehosted for the UK peasants:

Is he implying Spencer is getting pushed out? I can see where that might send him over the edge.

 

[SneakersSO]

I wonder what our old pal S SneakersSO thinks of what's going on right now at Xbox... His last postings were from two months ago, I wouldn't mind an industry insider's perspective on all of this.

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

 

[reinking]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

That is interesting and it has become obvious there has been a major shift. It is like they have recently sped up the collapse of Xbox as we knew it. I expected one more console generation but it looks like that could be in jeopardy now. They seem hellbent on removing every compelling reason to own it anyway.

 

[T-0800]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

Been waiting for you to chime in.

 

[Heisenberg007]

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

If what you say is true, then Xbox as a console business is in fact already dead. They have already canceled the next console, and the current one will soon be taken out back behind the shed. We just haven't gotten the official word from MS yet

 

[Kenneth Haight]

2024 - "Hey guys, we're getting call of duty for FREE now"

2025

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

 

[Ar¢tos]

47k dislikes in just 2 days.

More engagement than GP itself per day.

 

[kruis]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

We're witnessing the end of an era it seems. Xbox (2001-2025). Wow.

The collapse of Xbox in US retail is a telling sign. It's nigh impossible to convince people to buy into the Xbox eco system by purchasing a next gen Xbox console in Q3/Q4 2026 when a year earlier everything Xbox was removed from store shelves and even the most faithful supporters have lost faith. But even if MS convinced retailers to keep Xbox consoles on their storeshelves, that would be just in the US, by far its biggest market. The situation was of course even worse in the rest of the world where Xbox had always been struggling to compete with Sony and Nintendo. It could well be that sales had been going down so fast now this year that there's nothing left to salvage with the launch of a new console.

I assume that even if that next gen Xbox PC in a console form factor won't come to pass, MS will keep working on a slimmed down Windows OS tailor for gaming handhelds to prevent SteamOS gaining too much foothold among gamers. That project will lead to OS improvements that will be beneficial to all Windows users.

 

[bitbydeath]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

This deserves its own thread.
Thanks for the update.

 

[GHG]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

Thank you for your insights

 

[Viruz]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

 

[Sooner]

Wait. Jez was actually an idiot and corporate fanboy this entire time!? What a twist!

 

[djjinx2]

The fallout of all this will be far reaching for sure.

Fuck I'm going to have to buy a PC aren't I

 

[LordCBH]

I legitimately hate seeing what the brand has turned into since about 2011/2012. None of this happened overnight. The rot has been festering for over a decade, but I still don't like seeing it.

I will miss their hardware. The series X and One X were/are absolutely fantastic little devices.

 

[Memati187]

Those morons don't get that the majority of us gamers are normal living people, who have rents to pay and have limited resources for this hobby. They really think everyone will stay and pay for this garbage of not owning anything.

Greed made them go beyond delusion level and I don't understand people who still support this shit. At this point buy your games and own them, you don't need to buy every game that releases ASAP. There discounts or second hand, if you don't want to pay full price. Just get them on release if it's something you really wanna play and are a fan of.

 

[Topher]

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

So the next Xbox console is no longer a sure thing?

 

[LuckyLuke]

So the next Xbox console is no longer a sure thing?

If you think about it, it makes sense. I mean, who would even buy it? Just the usual handful of diehards.
At this point, most people will probably move on to PC or PlayStation.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So the next Xbox console is no longer a sure thing?

The walls of Castle Green are crumbling, the King is in hiding and the Round Table is on fire

 

[Pedro Motta]

 

[adamsapple]

 

[Topher]

The walls of Castle Green are crumbling, the King is in hiding and the Round Table is on fire

S SneakersSO said more layoffs are coming. These three should top the list.

 

[808mate]

S SneakersSO said more layoffs are coming. These should top the list.

The Three Stooges.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

So the next Xbox console is no longer a sure thing?

Launching a console costs money. And if they wanted to launch in 2026, contracts have to be signed by now to commit to the spending and production. But the other way to look at it is that the console production is far enough away, that Microsoft haven't yet locked in the spending for it. It sounds like they pulled the breaks, if only because they don't see any financial benefit in continuing.

But as everyone said already, this is basically a self fulling prophecy anyway. Microsoft did everything it can to destroy the market for the next Xbox, and at some point there is nothing left for a new Console to have a chance.

 

[Ar¢tos]

S SneakersSO said more layoffs are coming. These three should top the list.

They should re-hire Mattrick just so they can fire him again.

 

[dragonyeuw]

If what you say is true, then Xbox as a console business is in fact already dead. They have already canceled the next console, and the current one will soon be taken out back behind the shed. We just haven't gotten the official word from MS yet

That post pretty much lines up with what we're seeing play out. There's absolutely no momentum or leverage for Xbox to put out another console when they're farming out their games to Playstation, Nintendo, and PC. When they cancelled their own handheld in favor of the newly releases Rog Ally X, I took that as a sign that this is where things are headed; they're out of producing their own hardware. The next 'Xbox console' will be some pre-build produced by Asus loaded with Xbox OS.They'll include the controller and 3 months of GPU and sell it for $1100 or whatever. Though as that post also implies, I'm not sure I'd want to attach my brand( like Asus has done) with Xbox based on their current optics. They may better off dropping 'Xbox' as a name and just go with something like 'powered by Microsoft Gaming studios' on the sticker.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

The walls of Castle Green are crumbling, the King is in hiding and the Round Table is on fire

Over the last couple years you've had some hope, at least it looked like from some of your posts, towards the future of the brand. What's your genuine feeling right now, have they thrown the proverbial towel once and for all?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Over the last couple years you've had some hope, at least it looked like from some of your posts, towards the future of the brand. What's your genuine feeling right now, have they thrown the proverbial towel once and for all?

No, they have not thrown the towel in at Xbox, the question is does MS keep giving them lifelines

Xbox is in super deep on this next gen console, I think its still coming but my confidence is way lower than my 99% I have been saying

I would assume if they pull the plug Xbox hardware division could just file bankruptcy to avoid paying out the contracts they already have with the likes of AMD

 

[Astray]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

1st of all, welcome back, it's been a while.

2nd, I have a feeling that the new Xbox gen is gonna get ganked. We should be seeing controller and dev kits leak pictures by now, and yet all we're working on is some lameduck announcement Sarah Bond made with AMD. Very strange and low-energy stuff tbh.

3rd, I think something really big is going down at Xbox HQ, Timdog has a tendency to lose his shit over anything and everything, but something seems to have him really, really spooked this go-round, I think that hard conversation Spencer alluded to in his FTC testimony is happening right now, and things will really worsen for Xbox consumers.

 

[Moridianae]

1st of all, welcome back, it's been a while.

2nd, I have a feeling that the new Xbox gen is gonna get ganked. We should be seeing controller and dev kits leak pictures by now, and yet all we're working on is some lameduck announcement Sarah Bond made with AMD. Very strange and low-energy stuff tbh.

3rd, I think something really big is going down at Xbox HQ, Timdog has a tendency to lose his shit over anything and everything, but something seems to have him really, really spooked this go-round, I think that hard conversation Spencer alluded to in his FTC testimony is happening right now, and things will really worsen for Xbox consumers.

What hard conversation?

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

No, they have not thrown the towel in at Xbox, the question is does MS keep giving them lifelines

Xbox is in super deep on this next gen console, I think its still coming but my confidence is way lower than my 99% I have been saying

I would assume if they pull the plug Xbox hardware division could just file bankruptcy to avoid paying out the contracts they already have with the likes of AMD

The saudis have deep pockets and just straight up bought EA, I could see that be the easy out for MS to offload the entire brand + Activision + everything else. If they put $70B in front of Nadella right now I can see him signing the deal straight away.

I can't see how they could release any new console in the next couple years, who the hell would buy it at this point?

 

[reinking]

S SneakersSO said more layoffs are coming. These three should top the list.

Timdog's rant indicated Microsoft pushing out the old and we know how he feels about Phil. Maybe it is happening. The question becomes, where do they go from there? I am not sure that would be good news for the longevity of the Xbox division.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Without going into too much detail, not long after the last round of layoffs (next one should be coming in Q1 26 btw - and its going to be just as massive as the last one), some rumblings out of Xbox starting coming out that were a little hard to believe.

The ramifications of the CoD GP gambit not working out were just starting to get properly measured, but the thing that really stuck out to me was that suddenly, really concrete plans for actual MS Xbox HW went from being definitive, to up in the air, which was really startling given that this thing was meant to be out relatively soon. It was one of those situations where, despite folks being told 'hey, we wanna pull the trigger on this in 2026', the steps you would need to take in the lead up to delivering a new console gen weren't being met. Lots of things that were 'sure things' started getting pushed. The Costco retailer pulling Xbox, and apparently they are one of many that we'll learn about soon, told me all I needed to know.

To sum it up: the future of Xbox is software publishing, with a significantly honed-in focus on profitable IPs (CoD, WoW, Minecraft, Candy Crush, Forza Horizon), Cloud gaming being the home of the 'Xbox platform', transititioning GamePass into basically becoming the point of entry subscription for xCloud access (which will continue to drive its price tag higher btw, they aren't done there just yet either), and releasing their software on any device that has a marketplace and users willing to buy their titles.

Maybe some OEM thing will take up the Xbox name, but given what is clearly a collapse in favorable mindshare and faith in said brand, i'm not even sure a 3rd party OEM is gonna want to have an Xbox console by the time MS is done with their reorienting of the division.

I just want to know what fucking idiot at Microsoft legit thought CoD would save Gamepass?

 

[SmokedMeat]

Microsoft really shit the bed on this one. Your console is dead and you decide to get greedy with the only thing you've got left?

Oof!

The sad part is gaming in general is getting ridiculous. Gamers are still getting bent over on $80 games and rising hardware prices.

All I know is I'm happy hanging back and playing the stuff that's been out and patched for a fraction of the price of new. I'm at the stage of questioning if I want to pay $5 for Sniper Elite 5 lol

 

[Panajev2001a]

Now if he has some major internal news flash why doesn't he break it?

Blow this shit up

He knows he would not be trusted? But you would… spill the beans .

 

[GoldenEye98]

The console space at the high end only has two players. So if one leaves you are essentially left with a monopoly. Maybe that means less today than it would have 20 years ago with the lines more blurred between PC and console but I'm not still not sure I want that.

 

[Astray]

What hard conversation?

Spencer testified that if Gamepass couldn't reach 70m by 2027 the division could be shuttered.

Watch this video from 2 years ago for more, it has the relevant part of the transcript in the beginning:

 

[Topher]

Timdog's rant indicated Microsoft pushing out the old and we know how he feels about Phil. Maybe it is happening. The question becomes, where do they go from there? I am not sure that would be good news for the longevity of the Xbox division.

I don't know that there is a way forward. The problem with replacing these clowns, as bad as they are, is who is going to want the job? All I know is these people shouldn't be rewarded for their incompetence any longer.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

S SneakersSO said more layoffs are coming. These three should top the list.

These people do need to go asap

I have shared this story a few times so not breaking any new ground here but its funny that Phil and Ybarra shared a drink in Phils office when Jim was promoted to the head of PS as they thought he would run PS aground yet neither Phil or Mike were smart enough to realize their own ship had already struck the iceberg and they were standing in waist deep water having that drink

And on a personal note whoever the pussy is running back to Ybarra telling him I am name dropping him here make sure you get my wording correct when I said neither were smart enough to realize the situation THEY put Xbox in

And also tell him to not send me anymore Twitter PMs telling me to stop talking about him here

I have never shared vital info openly (to mods yes for some sort of proof) but I can if he wants

Don't make me go scorched earth, what's the worst he is going to do, not let me place bets on whatever no name gambling site he is working on?

Get me banned from playing on a dying console I haven't turned on in years?