Nintendo is lobbying with the Japanese government against the use of AI (UP: Nintendo denies the reports)

Why don't they just patent the concept of AI instead?
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If Japanese developers were prevented from using AI... well they'd basically be shooting themselves in the foot.
 
The problem with ai is it uses likeness of things and people already on the net. It's literally just ripping off everything popular and mixing it together. Can it ever really be creative?
 
That's because AI used by unknowns will soon create more values that those gigantic IP-holders. And they can't have that can they?
Look at how they tried to shut down Pocket Pairs, this is what Nintendo is now. They want to own the concept and means of making videos games and if a new technology makes them obsolete, then they'll sue instead of trying to compete.

If you're against the democratization of AI you're against progress.
 
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I dont know if I'd recognize AI in games. Are there any instances of it for my own edification?

When talking about AI in movies,games or other artful creations im always in favor of deferring to human inputs. But AI used to automate tedious, repetitive processes makes sense to me. Thats how we've progressed up until now. But replacing entire systems, soup to nuts, with AI is dehumanizing and, frankly, boring as fuck.
 
RoboFu said:
The problem with ai is it uses likeness of things and people already on the net. It's literally just ripping off everything popular and mixing it together. Can it ever really be creative?
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Srsly i hope it doesn't get creative on its own.
 
RoboFu said:
The problem with ai is it uses likeness of things and people already on the net. It's literally just ripping off everything popular and mixing it together. Can it ever really be creative?
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Thing is, because Wall Street cums merely hearing the word, companies are calling everything they do as AI. But I'm not talking about having it generate whole games or using it to rip off establishing IPs, mainly using it to speed up the workflow.

Which yes should lead to less dev jobs. But that might be necessary to save SP AAA.
 
Unclear to me which policies Nintendo might want to advance to curb ML-based generative output. But they do have major sway in Japan, unclear if they have enough to outweigh the tech industry interests.

We've already lost the legislative battle to technology companies. Most jurisdictions are so far behind that they'll never catch up, it's now more a matter of when will technologists do something so uncontrollably reckless that there will be no choice but to hit the brakes on everything.
 
unpopular opinion, i am agree with the hate. but not because Nintendo, but because lot of people using it lazily, i see lot of people not using AI as support, but more for being cheap ass and lazy.
 
Nintendo. - I'm going to file a lawsuit.

Public. - Can you handle 100 million people who use Nintendo characters?

Nintendo. 😰😰😰.

That's karma for implementing Keycards. 😤😤😤
 
RoboFu said:
The problem with ai is it uses likeness of things and people already on the net. It's literally just ripping off everything popular and mixing it together. Can it ever really be creative?
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Bill Murray was setting himself conditions and putting on a bad attitude for making Ghostbusters 3...

Don't worry, we can do it ourselves with the main cast.

Bill Murray. 😨😨😨😰😰😰
 
What these AI Andys in Silicon Valley will never understand is that nobody is going to pay for a game made mainly with AI.

Who would go to the cinema and pay to watch an AI-generated movie? Nobody.

Nintendo is right.
 
Nintendo would rather the entire world be forced to stop using fake Mario to 'protect their IPs'.

I won't even be surprised if they tried to sue the big AI guys.

At some point, they'll get their ass handed to them in court (and internet users will make Nintendo characters specifically for the lols)
 
ReyBrujo said:
Ironically I'm pretty sure Iwata would have supported the adoption of IA.
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I strongly doubt that. Iwata believed in the creativity of his peeps, which AI being the absence of creativity would more than likely go against his philosophy.

Modern nintendo being a bunch of penny pinching suits however, absolutely surprises me that theyre against AI
 
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Honestly, I will support them with this. I'm surprised very few companies have sued yet, but with SORA 2 we will probably see a lot of lawsuits coming

The only thing that might close this Pandora Box is the amount of computational power AI needs to keep running
 
In 5 years Nintendo will release a Mario game with an annoying side character (say, a hat…) with AI-generated dialogue that comments on your gameplay and then try to patent it as some super secret sauce.

Toxic company.
 
poodaddy said:
It doesn't matter how you feel about it, at this point it can't be stopped.

Can't close Pandora's box.
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The current AI market is not sustainable with the current hardware requirements, just like critics warned with Game Pass:

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I think in 3-5 years 98% of the Generative AI Market startups will be dead and most will switch to local models, which will have considerably slower development because tech companies will want to move to some other thing (probably robotics).
 
Komatsu said:
In 5 years Nintendo will release a Mario game with an annoying side character (say, a hat…) with AI-generated dialogue that comments on your gameplay and then try to patent it as some super secret sauce.

Toxic company.
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Literally nothing is stopping a company from doing and patenting it first.
 
Codes 208 said:
I strongly doubt that. Iwata believed in the creativity of his peeps, which AI being the absence of creativity would more than likely go against his philosophy.

Modern nintendo being a bunch of penny pinching suits however, absolutely surprises me that theyre against AI
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Sorry, wasn't clear enough, I was referring to using AI to help coding and refactoring. Coding is not an art, it's a deterministic act, and as a programmer Iwata would have been one of the first to test it out. And yes, art would still be done by designer but there's nothing wrong if that designer ends up using AI to add extra frames or animate or generate variations or test concepts. What Nintendo is against is using it to get something done from scratch (like, getting a character drawn) because that wouldn't be "original" (like the Ghibli cartoons ChatGPT generates).
 
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ReyBrujo said:
Successful clowns.

Ironically I'm pretty sure Iwata would have supported the adoption of IA.
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Nintendo will adopt IA too, but as always they'll do it like 10 years after the rest of the people. And then their fans will claim that Nintendo invented IA, and Nitnendo may even go to patent it.
 
poodaddy said:
It doesn't matter how you feel about it, at this point it can't be stopped.

Can't close Pandora's box.
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True. But you can at least make life annoying for the people who behave like absolute fucking retards with that technology. I wouldn't mind if Google, OpenAI et al. would get a some fists in their faces once in a while.
 
Hudo said:
True. But you can at least make life annoying for the people who behave like absolute fucking retards with that technology. I wouldn't mind if Google, OpenAI et al. would get a some fists in their faces once in a while.
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AI today is like the car industry before safety regulations. Something will probably have to go terribly wrong before we see real oversight.
 
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