Nintendo is the “Apple” of gaming
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Magic Carpet
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I can't remember but didn't the Vita have a Sim card on one of the models for cell service?
I feel it has to have a cellular model to be considered 'Apple' like.
I feel it has to have a cellular model to be considered 'Apple' like.
Hero_Select
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Funny considering OP made this thread to shit on Nintendo. Are you okay replying to all Nintendo threads with shit takes?
Grizzled Ghost
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Apple was Apple long before they were in the cellphone business. Just ask Jeff Goldblum about his iMac G3
Never been interested in Nintendo, but got a switch for the kid and what did I find? Five-year-old games, still full price. The most expensive controllers on the market. No games are bundled with the console. Is this supposed to be for kids? What average family can afford those prices?
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Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Push the envelope like with the top of line 1" Sony camera sensors in their iphones that gives them best in class zoom, photos and video and their foldable and flip model Iphones? Oh wait they have none of those things.
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Hero_Select
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They'll get it any day now
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Grizzled Ghost
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They push the envelope as far as what ridiculous prices they can get people to pay for a product that's technically inferior to it's competition. Much like Nintendo.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
What you mean is they'll invent the foldable phone one of these days? I can't wait the future is almost here.They'll get it any day now
Radical_3d
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Yes, but: the entry level of any Apple computer is usually the best performance per buck in the market. Spatially in the States (we'll see after the tariffs lol). It's everything else what is overpriced. The entry level of any Nintendo hardware feels like getting 2TB of SSD in Apple.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I just would not say Apple and mid specs in the same sentence. Overpriced? Yes, mid specs… nope.
They constantly go for CPU performance crown, have massive unified memory bandwidth for the SoC (at quite low latency), and are always on the latest most expensive but best manufacturing node for their silicon.
Fahdis
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Funny considering OP made this thread to shit on Nintendo. Are you okay replying to all Nintendo threads with shit takes?
ValiantInstance
Member
This description is about 5 years out of date for Apple since they developed ARM chips. Mid specs? How many phones can play AC Mirage, Resident Evil 8 and Death Stranding?
One thing Apple and Nintendo do have in common, their products hold their value. I traded in BOTW, MK8 and AC Black Flag for Switch the other day and picked up 3D World and U Deluxe. £70 trade in value and £73 purchase.
PeteBull
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I have to disagree with u on 1 tiny technicality:
Meanwhile at nintendo 8nm samsung manufacturing process:
Hero_Select
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Fahdis
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Nice try. I hate Sony and Xbox equally Drone.
Hero_Select
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Oh. Sorry. So you hate Nintendo, Sony and Xbox. That leaves PC.
There you go. Don't forget to clean the crumbs off your keyboard
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I thought Apple was the Apple of Gaming?
Starbuck2907
Member
Apple doesn't make underpowered hardware.
PeteBull
Member
Switch2 isnt super expensive, just its about 50% more expensive from series s, that is more powerful from it and is 4,5years old, i think ppl simply notice that disparity there, and yup as a fellow pole its same thing here, normal price from big online store series s:you guys are fucking crazy.
There is nothing crazy about 450$ price.
If even polish people can afford MULTIPLE of something for 1 salary, it means it's dirt cheap
Games yeah. A but pricey...
1300 pln aka 344usd(final price customers pays after taxes and such)
Now polish switch2 preorder price:
https://lowcygier.pl/sprzet-gamingo...lotowkach-pojawila-sie-w-pierwszych-sklepach/ 2199pln aka 582 usd(again final price customer pays).
U would think it should be roughly similar price, even counting in the innate handheld nature of switch2, yet its priced like proper current gen stationary console instead, well above series s that is viewed as weak/casual/budget option
Im not saying switch2 isnt worth its price, for tens of milions of ppl it definitely is, and soon we will be sure of it too coz console will be sold out for months(at least in the US, dunno about europe ;p).
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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NO.
With a 999$ Mac Book Air, you get a great screen, great audio, powerful ARM hardware with a great battery life (15 hours), the best touch pad on the market (man, it's so good and so well integrate with the OS), a good camera, a better OS than Windows (in my opinion) and the best integration between the OS and the hardware you can get on the market, a great ADOBE integration, cool slim design, easy integration between Iphone, Ipad and Mac Book... and so on. Apple TV and Mac Mini (599$) both have great values. Apple Vision Pro is a great device. But you're right OP about official accessories, they cost a lost but you have some alternatives too. And of course OP, if you want the last games to run at max, ARM will not make it - yet - but they will run ok now, even very well on pro models. That means those kind of hardwares and OS are not for everyone, just like Windows PC or Linux, but they are far from what you say OP. In my opinion, any computer under Windows will still be overprice since the OS is so bad...
You don't get any of those points with Nintendo.
With a 999$ Mac Book Air, you get a great screen, great audio, powerful ARM hardware with a great battery life (15 hours), the best touch pad on the market (man, it's so good and so well integrate with the OS), a good camera, a better OS than Windows (in my opinion) and the best integration between the OS and the hardware you can get on the market, a great ADOBE integration, cool slim design, easy integration between Iphone, Ipad and Mac Book... and so on. Apple TV and Mac Mini (599$) both have great values. Apple Vision Pro is a great device. But you're right OP about official accessories, they cost a lost but you have some alternatives too. And of course OP, if you want the last games to run at max, ARM will not make it - yet - but they will run ok now, even very well on pro models. That means those kind of hardwares and OS are not for everyone, just like Windows PC or Linux, but they are far from what you say OP. In my opinion, any computer under Windows will still be overprice since the OS is so bad...
You don't get any of those points with Nintendo.
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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ZehDon
Gold Member
Not really, it's not unique to Nintendo, this is just what happens when you don't have any competition. Nintendo committed to the handheld space, where the only other player - Sony - retreated from entirely. They can literally do whatever they want. Charge more, deliver less. It's not unique to Nintendo, and we'll see Sony double-down on this approach with the PS6 now that Xbox has gone third party.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
xbox series s... is not a handheld device with screen, speakers, detachable controllers and so on.Switch2 isnt super expensive, just its about 50% more expensive from series s, that is more powerful from it and is 4,5years old, i think ppl simply notice that disparity there, and yup as a fellow pole its same thing here, normal price from big online store series s:
1300 pln aka 344usd(final price customers pays after taxes and such)
Now polish switch2 preorder price:
https://lowcygier.pl/sprzet-gamingo...lotowkach-pojawila-sie-w-pierwszych-sklepach/ 2199pln aka 582 usd(again final price customer pays).
U would think it should be roughly similar price, even counting in the innate handheld nature of switch2, yet its priced like proper current gen stationary console instead, well above series s that is viewed as weak/casual/budget option
Im not saying switch2 isnt worth its price, for tens of milions of ppl it definitely is, and soon we will be sure of it too coz console will be sold out for months(at least in the US, dunno about europe ;p).
There is no comparison you can make strictly based on power of these systems. Makes no sense.
You know what's also xsx power level and more expensive? steam deck
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PeteBull
Member
I linked price of xbox series s, not x, obviously series x with 3x gpu power of series s is way more expensive.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I understand the shock factor of Switch 2 pricing, but c'mon guys... Its mostly just inflation and Nintendo having to go with relatively modern components this time around, not Apple's well-established "prestige brand" approach to pricing.
To be honest I think one of the most interesting things I've seen of late was the recent GamersNexus video where they break down the degree of component cut-down on NVidia cards from flagship to mid-range increasing massively over the past few product refreshes. Essentially the realization being that the prices have risen even more than can be judged by RRP, because when you buy a 60 series card now you are getting way less relative to a 90 series than you did a few years ago! But the prices have still gone up, with the performance drop-off disguised by better DLSS.
To be honest I think one of the most interesting things I've seen of late was the recent GamersNexus video where they break down the degree of component cut-down on NVidia cards from flagship to mid-range increasing massively over the past few product refreshes. Essentially the realization being that the prices have risen even more than can be judged by RRP, because when you buy a 60 series card now you are getting way less relative to a 90 series than you did a few years ago! But the prices have still gone up, with the performance drop-off disguised by better DLSS.
Lokaum D+
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i said tries, didnt say they push
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
But at least iPhone 16 is OLED though
Physiognomonics
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Switch is the worst Nintendo hardware ever. Screen can be scratched using their own accessorie and their built in controllers (joycon) are the worst controllers ever since the Atari controller.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I am talking about s. it was a typo
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I'd forgotten about dock-gate you know!
Unfortunatecookie
Neo Member
Compared to what laptops? The Touch Bar MacBooks were bad value. The more recent ones are excellent machines for the price.
Now Apple's other products ... not great. They've missed the mark on a lot of their stuff, e.g., Vision Pro, AirPods Max. Those products are more -- from a value perspective -- comparable to what Nintendo is doing.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Any barely decent PC that costs a quarter. I know because I have both and the PC is on its own league, I work on the MacBook daily
Badlucktroll
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Unfortunatecookie
Neo Member
How important is size, weight, and noise to your laptop experience?
seething left
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Have you ever thought about how Nintendo and Apple can feel a bit like cults? It's kind of wild when you really dig into it. Both companies have had these charismatic leaders—think Steve Jobs for Apple and Shigeru Miyamoto for Nintendo—who inspire a level of loyalty that's almost fanatical. Fans often overlook the flaws in their products, simply because they adore the brands.
Take the way Apple and Nintendo fans form their communities. They can be incredibly exclusive, almost like secret clubs. If you dare to criticize their favorite products, you might find yourself under fire instead of engaging in a reasonable discussion. Just look at the frenzy surrounding Apple's product launches—people camp out for days to be the first to snag the latest iPhone. Nintendo fans do something similar for console releases, like when the Switch came out. It's a level of enthusiasm that can border on obsession.
Both brands have a strong identity that makes their fans feel special. Apple users often act like they're part of an elite group, while Nintendo fans can be fiercely protective of their consoles and games. The Switch has this unique hybrid design that's really appealing, but some fans seem to ignore its shortcomings, like the limited third-party support compared to other consoles. It's as if they're in a bubble, overlooking any criticism.
Then there's the whole "us vs. them" mentality. Apple fans can be pretty dismissive of other tech brands, and Nintendo fans often lash out at anyone who dares to critique their beloved consoles. This tribalism can really stifle healthy debate and promote a kind of blind loyalty that's concerning.
And let's talk about devotion. Apple fans will rush to upgrade to the latest products without a second thought, while Nintendo fans will buy consoles and games even if they're not groundbreaking or well-received. This kind of loyalty can lead to some questionable choices and a lack of critical thinking.
In the end, while the communities around Nintendo and Apple can be a lot of fun, it's worth taking a step back and recognizing those cult-like aspects of loyalty. It's important to keep a critical eye on the brands we love and not get swept away by the hype.
Take the way Apple and Nintendo fans form their communities. They can be incredibly exclusive, almost like secret clubs. If you dare to criticize their favorite products, you might find yourself under fire instead of engaging in a reasonable discussion. Just look at the frenzy surrounding Apple's product launches—people camp out for days to be the first to snag the latest iPhone. Nintendo fans do something similar for console releases, like when the Switch came out. It's a level of enthusiasm that can border on obsession.
Both brands have a strong identity that makes their fans feel special. Apple users often act like they're part of an elite group, while Nintendo fans can be fiercely protective of their consoles and games. The Switch has this unique hybrid design that's really appealing, but some fans seem to ignore its shortcomings, like the limited third-party support compared to other consoles. It's as if they're in a bubble, overlooking any criticism.
Then there's the whole "us vs. them" mentality. Apple fans can be pretty dismissive of other tech brands, and Nintendo fans often lash out at anyone who dares to critique their beloved consoles. This tribalism can really stifle healthy debate and promote a kind of blind loyalty that's concerning.
And let's talk about devotion. Apple fans will rush to upgrade to the latest products without a second thought, while Nintendo fans will buy consoles and games even if they're not groundbreaking or well-received. This kind of loyalty can lead to some questionable choices and a lack of critical thinking.
In the end, while the communities around Nintendo and Apple can be a lot of fun, it's worth taking a step back and recognizing those cult-like aspects of loyalty. It's important to keep a critical eye on the brands we love and not get swept away by the hype.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
For me? Zero, I just need the thing to do the job, it barely runs blender and is slow for web development stuff, constantly out of storage and I've found myself in a situation where the ram is full on the middle of my work, the bugs, not being able to connect more than one monitor without a DisplayLink adapter that has to render each screen generating visual quality loss and even more lag.
Really, I would get a PC if the company allowed me.
Premium? When it costs the same as the Steamdeck launch price that many claimed was losing money for Valve?
And Apple device would have at least a 20% markup on the hardware alone.
Apple's chipsets are top tier, both on mobile and laptops
You're completely clueless