Rat Rage
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The Quinfecta:
The Thing is a bad movie. The first minutes before the dog transforms are suspenseful, but after that, everything becomes an unintended comedy.
What makes Terminator 2 so timeless?
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The Thing is a bad movie. The first minutes before the dog transforms are suspenseful, but after that, everything becomes an unintended comedy.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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It was well made and not brainless slop like every Terminator movie that came after.
YCoCg
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I think it's also a case where most things to do with the movie was also firing on all cylinders, take the song accompanying the movie, they got Guns 'N Roses for it, one of the biggest bands on the planet at the time with a lot of people anticipating the upcoming "Use Your Illusion", just look at this damn video and feel the hype
Arcades were still a major thing and whilst the game isn't super amazing it hit all the beats and was addictive for its time and they got this out there across the world!
And then you had this thing popping up on consoles just after the Home release
So not only do you have what's pretty much the pinnacle of Action Movies but you also had it backed up on multiple fronts in such a way it stayed in peoples minds via both music and gaming.
Arcades were still a major thing and whilst the game isn't super amazing it hit all the beats and was addictive for its time and they got this out there across the world!
And then you had this thing popping up on consoles just after the Home release
So not only do you have what's pretty much the pinnacle of Action Movies but you also had it backed up on multiple fronts in such a way it stayed in peoples minds via both music and gaming.
Laptop1991
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Great film, written brilliantly and the acting is superb, Arnie's model going from the hunter to defender was a great idea and introducing Robert Patricks more advanced Terminator was another great idea, they just dont make these decisions and choices in films nowadays like back then.
MLSabre
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His menacing run is just amazing. Big props to Robert Patrick for bringing T-1000 to life. The character just wouldn't be the same without his amazing performance.
Mr Reasonable
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chromhound
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Favorite movie of all time.
Heard Cameron was working on the next one (AI would be the antagonist of the movie)
Heard Cameron was working on the next one (AI would be the antagonist of the movie)
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Zephyranthes
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It was made at a time when movies were still allowed to be driven by the fulfilment of a creative vision; a notion that Hollywood mostly doesn't care about anymore.
dragonyeuw
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On top of all the well earned superlatives expressed in this thread, I would suggest with the current A.I push that it's very topical.
digoutyoursoul
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Excellent pacing, great set pieces and effects , solid chemistry with the cast, superb score, just a very well made action movie.
I remember the hype and excitement for it when it first released, fun times.
Back then the potential of spoilers were limited and it often relied on a friend or someone else seeing a film before you and spilling the beans.
I prefer the first one but T2 is fantastic in its own right.
I remember the hype and excitement for it when it first released, fun times.
Back then the potential of spoilers were limited and it often relied on a friend or someone else seeing a film before you and spilling the beans.
I prefer the first one but T2 is fantastic in its own right.
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Pasta la Vista
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Yeah it was such a huge deal when it released too. I saw it 5 times in the theatre. Nothing like that anymore.
Liopleurodon
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EverydayBeast
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Actually story telling, assigned roles, actor credibility, and we do have the key piece of AI issue, I know many who think terminator after 2 is horrendous.why is it still good all these years later. I can watch it everytime. Why is it so epic?
UnravelKatharsis
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I'm going to go with....heart. Just off the top of my head, the genre change mixed with great character development and heart probably had a huge impact on movie goers at the time. The scene where Sarah looks over at the terminator playing with John and mentions how the Terminator is like the father he never had. The movie is just full of moments like that. The type of feel good cinema we go to the theater for.
Yes, it's a combination of that and all the other things it does well. Obviously great action set pieces too. But the heart is what sticks with you long after you finished the movie.
Imagine a surprise like "Arnold's terminator is the good guy" being accomplished today. It'll never happen again with trailers having to give away the whole movie.
Yes, it's a combination of that and all the other things it does well. Obviously great action set pieces too. But the heart is what sticks with you long after you finished the movie.
Imagine a surprise like "Arnold's terminator is the good guy" being accomplished today. It'll never happen again with trailers having to give away the whole movie.
Neff
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I get annoyed when people call it 'the Tom Cruise run'
Chuck Berry
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I'd have to squeeze Commando or Aliens in there somewhere
Hawk The Slayer
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Lots of movies from the 80s to 90s remains timeless as they are easily the best movies of all times. Terminator 2 is awesome and worth many rewatches but always prefer Terminator 1 over 2 even if both are 10/10 movies.
Redneckerz
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Because 80s and 90s movies had heart. Just compare this to any Marvel flick. I am sure people put their soul into animating and rendering all that but it feels insultingly hollow. This has to do with artstyle, writing, color usage, acting, etc...
Ellis
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Dude was impeccable casting. To carry yourself and look a threat to Arnie is no easy thing. Robert fucking nailed it.
His menacing run is just amazing. Big props to Robert Patrick for bringing T-1000 to life. The character just wouldn't be the same without his amazing performance.
As for the film itself. Well, yeah. It's on the pedestal with greatest of the genre. Raiders, Predator, and Die Hard.
The fundamentals are simple. A Raiders and Mad Max 2 esque chase movie (like the first) but with the "I'm James Cameron. Give me the crazy budget, and let me do my thing". He did just that.
It's movie making perfection, and my favourite movie of all time.....
After John Carpenters Thing Thing.
Mattdaddy
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Man everything just came together perfectly.
The casting was perfect, the acting was perfect, the characters were awesome, the pacing was perfect, the action was incredible.
Great practical effects means its got great legs on how it looks, the CGI that was used on the T-1000 was done in a way it aged really well also.
Just incredible top to bottom.
The casting was perfect, the acting was perfect, the characters were awesome, the pacing was perfect, the action was incredible.
Great practical effects means its got great legs on how it looks, the CGI that was used on the T-1000 was done in a way it aged really well also.
Just incredible top to bottom.
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Mattdaddy
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The Quinfecta:
Id throw Predator in too but then its not a Quinfecta and Im not smart enough to know what its called with 6.
Hexfecta. Going with that.
dragonyeuw
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For me it's one of the most re-watchable films ever. Whenever they re-release a proper 4k UHD I'll grab it( and T1), and I've more or less stopped buying physical movies.
dragonyeuw
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Dr.Morris79
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Get the fuck out
Ellis
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For your own sake, say you mean the 2011 film.
But no, don't be silly. The entire paranoia aspect (the film's core) only gets better as it goes along.It's the greatest Sci-Fi horror ever made. No easy feat when Alien also exists.
It doesn't need to be "scary" to be a horror.
The Thing is sublime. Like, true perfection.
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Baemono
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The whole concept just works. Arnold being not the most powerful machine despite his appearence, being here to protect the kid, the fact there is no real hope behind all of the main characters motivations but still trying to fight the inevitable while trying to survive.
It is dark but with light moments. And really doesn't feel dated.
Mr Reasonable
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A bit of me wonders if the thing that makes it so perfect is this equation:
(Really good movie + great casting) x being the right age for it to be one of the better films of your childhood/teenage years.
And it's the latter bit that's doing a lot of work. I'm not sure how many people are describing T2 as a perfect movie, but I suspect that there are more people who are a bit older who feel that way.
FWIW - I think it's a great movie, I remember watching it as a teenager and being borderline obsessed with it.
(Really good movie + great casting) x being the right age for it to be one of the better films of your childhood/teenage years.
And it's the latter bit that's doing a lot of work. I'm not sure how many people are describing T2 as a perfect movie, but I suspect that there are more people who are a bit older who feel that way.
FWIW - I think it's a great movie, I remember watching it as a teenager and being borderline obsessed with it.
Dev1lXYZ
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I saw it in the theater and owned the Official Movie Magazine that had nice paper. At the time, I felt like they should have filmed the scene where the Terminator facility was raided and the T-800 reprogrammed as it was talked about inside its pages. There were even a few drawings of scenes from it. Alas, when the Director's Cut came out on VHS/Laserdisc a few years afterward, I was so disappointed that it was admitted those scenes wouldn't be a part of the film. The original teaser trailer has a small part of the scene, btw.
Years after that, Universal gave Cameron big money to film scenes for their Terminator ride in that setting and I thought for sure that would be the basis for the ride. Nope.
When AI gets to the point to where it can do that scene close enough to the film, I'm going to make it and cut it into the film just for myself.
Years after that, Universal gave Cameron big money to film scenes for their Terminator ride in that setting and I thought for sure that would be the basis for the ride. Nope.
When AI gets to the point to where it can do that scene close enough to the film, I'm going to make it and cut it into the film just for myself.
Romulus
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The last generation before the internet and social media. Dedication to creativity on that level requires minimal distractions. Today's world is nothing but constant distractions.
They could literally put themselves inside an incubator of creativity. Music, movies basically died off around that time in terms of masterpieces. Now everything is inspired or a remaster of the time before when we could concentrate for months or years at a time.
BennyBlanco
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I can't think of a movie with better pacing.
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Ellis
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Some of the other greats like Raiders are close, or equal, but a few not so great films can have it too. Die Hard 3 With A Vengeance. Easily my least favourite of the 3 Die Hards, but it starts with an explosion and doesn't let up throughout the duration.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Mad Max Fury Road?
Donald mac Ronald
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Mad max fury road is the best action movie since matrix 1. Before matrix it was T2.
The 3 are the goat
Ulysses 31
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Movies made before the cell/smartphone era did have it a little easier where as now they have to account for the internet connectivity and phone reception.
Gp1
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