ChorizoPicozo
Member
Nintendo's diminished mojo is allowing criticism to finally stick in the discourse cycle
Nintendo's diminished mojo is allowing criticism to finally stick in the discourse cycle
Matsuchezz
Member
i have not finished the game yet. but i think it's a six, a solid six a high six.
Story so far is a 5.
Graphics a 7.5.
gameplay 6.5 Boss fights are the best of the game.
sound design and bgm. 7 nothing to write about.
level design is 7.
overall this game is serviceable.
i am having somewhat fun and i am unimpressed.
Story so far is a 5.
Graphics a 7.5.
gameplay 6.5 Boss fights are the best of the game.
sound design and bgm. 7 nothing to write about.
level design is 7.
overall this game is serviceable.
i am having somewhat fun and i am unimpressed.
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Lokaum D+
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i would change lvl design to a 5, everything else i agree
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Kacho
Gold Member
He has an army of toys behind him
Nintendo's diminished mojo is allowing criticism to finally stick in the discourse cycle
yes, sad to say, I have no idea wtf they were thinking, but it's like go down go up go down go up so far. I will continue and finish it but prob not at 100%. It just feels like a chore going back to all those places.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
I miss the level design of the first 2 Doom games. Not only for their non linear and unexpected critical paths, but also for their many secrets and hidden doorways. Not to mention you could move through their levels with real speed once you knew where to go.
All of those qualities make for navigation that is closer to 2D Metroid than what the Prime games have achieved.
I'd go as far as saying that the over reliance on scanning slows down navigation to an unacceptable degree.
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PeteBull
Member
I wasnt that interested in metroid fps game since i dont have switch2 yet, so i kinda didnt check this thread till now.
Assuming its ninny's first party so gameplay/fun has to be if not top notch then at the very least great i entered the topic, and checked those review scores, what i saw was:
Assuming its ninny's first party so gameplay/fun has to be if not top notch then at the very least great i entered the topic, and checked those review scores, what i saw was:
Judge Magister
Gold Member
If i were this Skill Up guy i would make another video reviewing the game. It's not clear enough that he dislikes the game..
Also if Metroid Prime 4 is a mid game then it's ok to love it from their own words..
Also if Metroid Prime 4 is a mid game then it's ok to love it from their own words..
MacReady13
Member
Getting much much further into the game (deep into desert traversal) and I'll keep repeating what I've been saying all along- I don't get the aggressive hate this game has gotten from a select few! Game is a Metroid Prime game! I'm not too sure what people were after??? Some have complained not enough has changed and they wanted changes to combat (how?) and that Samus needs a voice… whereas others, like me, are happy keeping the game as is. From the original Metroid right through to Dread, the same basic core functions have remained the same in the 2D games, and that is what us Metroid fans prefer. This is no different. So far, the 2nd best Prime game made. I love it. Desert area is great. Lack of soundtrack doesn't affect the area 1 little bit and in fact the ambient soundtrack suits it. Gives it a great contrast to when you actually make it to a level when that areas music does kick in.
So far I'm loving it. Colour me impressed. I've gotten what I wanted out of this game.
So far I'm loving it. Colour me impressed. I've gotten what I wanted out of this game.
Matsuchezz
Member
Skill up review is spot on. Being an actual critical fan of the game.
Lokaum D+
Member
This game scan is so stupid that 95% of the things i scanned are just trash info.
Like you ll be scanning crates till the end game, the same crates that you scanned on everymap, but hey, this one is special, this crate is used to store the same fucking thing that all the other 400 that you scanned are used for.
And you need to Scan all this boring repetitive stuff on every map...
Like you ll be scanning crates till the end game, the same crates that you scanned on everymap, but hey, this one is special, this crate is used to store the same fucking thing that all the other 400 that you scanned are used for.
And you need to Scan all this boring repetitive stuff on every map...
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Need is a big ass stretch. There's 0 need to scan Jack shit in these games that aren't objective based. You can quickly discern what is trash and what isn't. Plus I ignore all of their text at this point because it's 99% worthless.This game scan is so stupid that 95% of the things i scanned are just trash info.
Like you ll be scanning crates till the end game, the same crates that you scanned on everymap, but hey, this one is special, this crate is used to store the same fucking thing that all the other 400 that you scanned are used for.
And you need to Scan all this boring repetitive stuff on every map...
The lore is in the statues of the aliens.
Lokaum D+
Member
If you want to unlock the hidden cutscene without spending another $30 you need to Scan everything.
Yeah yeah, i just dont understand why make It sooo boring, on prime 1 you had lots of scanning to do too, but most of them was about the planet biology, pirates MO, enemies, Metroids experiments and direct lore.
This is just trash after trash after trash....
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
No argument there it is bad.
But me personally I'll look up that scene on YT when the credits roll. Forgot to scan a boss already and idgaf.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
How in the fuck is it a dying franchise?
1) It has never been one of Nintendos better selling IPs
2) In just a few years we've had 3 entries with MP1 remaster, Metroid Dread, and now MP4
3) If donkey shit like Kirby air riders gets a new entry and sells 14 copies, then there's far more hope to keep getting more Metroid games
Gotta be the dumbest post of 2025. Congrats.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
oh and one more thing, the games are also average as fuck with nintendo seal of quality on it.
Lokaum D+
Member
Nah, this one ( Beyond ) i would agree that is avarage af, but Dread and Prime Remastered are really great games.
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
You aren't going to bait me with that considering I'm one of the only people on this entire forum who thinks super Metroid isn't very good.
The franchise in general is super varied from player to player on which ones people think are great or just OK.
I personally only like Metroid prime and Metroid dread of the ones I've played.
The verdict is still out entirely on this one until credits roll.
RafterXL
Member
Nah, it's just as niche franchise that hasn't improved or evolved in 20 years.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Metroid prime alone is an evolution of the original Metroid games because it takes the concept from 2-D to 3-D, and added a variety of new ways to engage as a player.
I would even argue this entry adding the motorcycle is an evolution even if it's poorly executed. For better or worse it's also the best in the franchise that eliminating tedious backtracking in a variety of ways as well. Plus there's the inclusion of multiple ways to play with and without motion as well as mouse controls. I think it's also safe to say that this is Nintendo's best looking game And most modern use of available technology ever.
Giallo Corsa
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Jsisto
Member
The scanning in Prime 1 was fucking fantastic. Just about every boss and mini boss, especially the ones the pirates had their hands on, had an absolute treasure trove of lore. You'd learn so much about these horrifying monstrosities and before you know it you'd be standing in front of them. The lead up to Omega Pirate and the big boy Metroid Prime himself are so memorable. Everything you learn makes the reveal so impactful!
It's kind of the inverse of Souls games and I wish Fromsoft would change it up a bit. You'll fight these amazing bosses and then possibly learn something about them from a random piece of equipment you may never get.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
so many of the negative takes start off with saying how they loved Samus Returns and Dread
I still haven't properly played Dread, but I am the polar opposite on Returns (and it's why I haven't felt compulsion to play Dread yet). It's not what I want from the franchise at all. The melee bits are extremely annoying. The graphics are very detailed but you could not possibly fail more at replicating the tone of the original Metroid 2 on Game Boy, which was almost peak franchise IMO, far better than the NES game. It has a claustrophobia and dark cave feeling that was oppressive... whereas Returns feels just like a Prime game turned into 2.5D like Castlevania Mirror of Fate, and I despise their Castlevania work.
Lokaum D+
Member
If you are feeling bored for backtracking metroidvania isnt the genre for you, maybe thats why you like Prime 4 cause it has almost zero metroidvania elements.
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TerribleAtThisGame
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Hero_Select
Member
No you don't. Environmental objects dont count towards scanning. Crates, trucks, platforms, terminals, rubble and things like that have no baring on 100% completion.
Lokaum D+
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TerribleAtThisGame
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Wrong. This idea you just need to backtrack and it's ok in any game is absurd.
The key is to change it up. The environment looks different, new enemies, new hazards, new ways to interact with that area again.
Just back tracking for backtracking sake ain't it. The genre has evolved.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Lokaum D+
Member
i think we have different definition of what "tedious backtracking" is, cause riding a bike for 2 minutes straight doing absolutely nothing to backtrack from one extreme of the map to the other is not what i would call "fun backtracking".
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Hero_Select
Member
They should have just put the base somewhere in the desert
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Both games don't require you to do donuts on a Motorbike collecting the Chaos Emeralds and fight annoying Robots for 2 hours to beat the game. That alone makes them great.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Anyone who hasn't played it yet should try AM2R imo. Fan game does it a disservice. It's been getting updated and updated and it's no bullshit one of my favorite Metroid games.
Gripsx
Member
They took the time to have that sniper guy camp around the desert for some reason too so why not?
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Super Metroid one side of the map to another while going to the same rooms over and over is horrible back tracking.
Metroid prime 1 has this shit as well. Much less so though.
I'll take this crap desert over Super Metroid.
Not even silksong avoids some backtracking but often that game is funneling you to new areas no matter where you go. I'd argue it does the best of perhaps any metroidvania in this aspect?
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
i stopped playing dread half way, the game feels like a temu version of castlevania
And the worst part of the game is the chasing gameplay
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Varteras
Member
Metroid Prime came out 23 years ago. I wouldn't use that to rebutt someone saying the franchise hasn't evolved in 20 years. Just wanted to point that out so you can better focus your argument, because that ain't it.
StueyDuck
Member
That was entirely my concern with MP4, and it seems that it indeed ended up being a safe sequel, with what little new things added not being very interesting or inventive.
I know the hardcore fans wouldn't want to hear it (I liked Metroid and MP but it's never been a huge franchse for me) and neither will the Nintendo fans who will praise anything so long as it has the logo slapped on it, But this game needed it's Breath of the Wild/ God of War/doom 2016 / Witcher 3 moment.
where it really shook up the formula and took the franchise in a new direction, whilst still maintaining elements of what made MP and Metroid as a series unique. just slapping a desert and bike onto MP 1-2-3 and calling it 4 wasn't enough.
Could it of gone horribly wrong? Of course, take Halo Infinite for example, but Infinite will be remembered more for being a huge miss and something that could have been great, than MP4 will be remembered in the future for just being another Metroid Prime game, 20 years later.
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It has more reviews aggregated than Other M but not by too much. 79 vs 71 (and more user reviews which are not fully aligned with them, for Other M it was way lower & for Prime 4 it's higher). In the Wii days there was less coverage outside Nintendo fans that'd be more prone to score higher
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Yep. Too linear/10
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It is just close to a "perfect" game, except for the final boss being too ease.
Lokaum D+
Member
I just find odd cause Dread had 124 reviews, 45 more aggregated scores than Prime 4 and it ended at 88.It has more reviews aggregated than Other M but not by too much. 79 vs 71 (and more user reviews which are not fully aligned with them, for Other M it was way lower & for Prime 4 it's higher). In the Wii days there was less coverage outside Nintendo fans that'd be more prone to score higher
I really think that Prime 4 would be at risk of having lower score than Other M If It had the same ammount of reviews.
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