Wasn't as bad as some said it was.. but not up to par with the likes of Prime 1 Remaster/Prime 2 Emu. It does have some great music and nice gameplay moments, but it forgot what it USED to be. I think that sums up what The Prime fans have been saying.
It is kind of a people thing yes, super hard especially for good devs and artists to be humble and learn from others, to learn how something worked and why and continue on that approach making it theirs. Compared to the old era of apprenticeships / artists learning from their teachers mastering their teachers' style before expressing their unique one you have generations of people being educated to express themselves first and foremost… some almost incapable of learning from others.
I remember that when it came out, Nintendo at the time clearly spent time telling people it was not an FPS but an FPA aka First Person Adventure game.
It's definitely more like that (or at least should be) than something like, say, CoD/Halo or your typical FPS.
Exactly, that is what I got out of the first Prime game, MP4 sounds a bit like they tried to make a sequel to Super Metroid that plays more like Metal Slug.
Hyrule Field in OoT was never really described as empty / not very useful though, it was fun to explore actually (especially for the times).
They play more similar to Iguana Entertainment's Turok(which when Iguana went under, Talent went to Retro Studios) games particularly 2 which featured mazelike levels.
Not really, I know the DNA of some of the staff, but it is the emphasis on platforming, exploring, etc… over shooting. Turok has a far higher emphasis on shooting mechanics and combat than Metroid Prime did which plays into the FPA vs FPS distinction too in terms of managing expectations.
Metroid Prime is more about exploration and puzzles. Even the boss fights historically have been puzzles to figure out. Although I found the puzzles in MP4 to be too simple. However the core concept is there. Complete objectives or find items/powerups within a maze in each level. In Metroid you have your Powersuit upgrades. In Turok 2 you had Sacred Talismans that gave you different abilities and some were even passive like walking on lava or swimming in toxic water.
This is personally why I really enjoyed it. I know it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but I enjoyed the classic Zelda feel.
the entire game is full of padding. Padded boss fights, padded scans, padded loading times and animations, padded desert shit.
The backtracking is egregious in every Metroid game.
IMO, the Great Sea is still the worst thing Nintendo ever put in a game from their major IPs.
Exactly. I think that's why the game has been fun enough for me. The meh parts don't last too long. NPCs. Elevators. Hallways. Going across the map just to 'cash in' a chip. ...
Hard disagree. First the music was 10/10 in the big sea, and there was more stuff to do, and it had a day and night cycle. It gave you a great sense of adventure. I didn't find it that annoying.
I can get that it's not for everyone, but at the very least, TWW offered a fast-travel mode so that you never had to sail more than a square or two away once you got it. The music and gorgeous day/night visuals really did a lot of the heavy lifting too. There was something about pulling up to a mysterious, misty island at the crack of dawn that really stoked my imagination.
It's funny to go through Prime 3 after playing this now. I'm playing with a regular DualSense controller, HD texture pack and shit and the game consistently feels impressively "alive". It's a weird Metroid game in that in SkyTown you're basically doing the engineering job the dude from Dead Space should've been doing but man, the technology and lived-in feel of it all is so cool compared to MP4. Some rooms are jam-packed with shit to do and to come back to. And some of the puzzles are really complex and intertwine. Maybe not difficulty-wise but the way some of these have layers and layers is killer. It doesn't feel like a bad movie set.
It's the RE3R of Metroid. And if you think about it the whole Engineering you do in Skytown calls into question the need for an Engineer in MP4 if you can do all those things yourself.
I was down on it at first, because of hand-holding. But I kept playing and I've been having fun tbh, I think I'm near the end and it's a solid 8 so far. Looks amazing at times!
Seems like this is just the type of game it is!
Definitely a highlight of the game. I really enjoyed this area.
Agreed. Ice belt is one of my favorite areas in any game in a long time.
In the fire zone. Dungeons and bosses have been fine. The rest..ehh. Combat could use a few more tricks. Samus is begging for a glory kill like system. The out of the way upgrades are hillariously bad. Not all but most of them are just..
I dread the late game grind. If its too infuriating I might just watch the ending on youtube.
