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[KINGMOKU]

fat?

And happy. Blissfully unaware.

 

[Topher]

Right. Kidnapping a president and the wife clearly does not require congressional approval. Its funny how no one sees how this is straight up dictatorship.

You mean the guy that has multiple arrest warrants issued by the United States? No, congressional approval isn't needed to arrest a guy with an arrest warrant.

https://www.state.gov/nicolas-maduro-moros

 

[SlimySnake]

Too bad he wasn't recognized as the President of Venezuela after the 2024 election by almost all of the world except China and Russia strange how that works huh

Great. Shouldnt have been hard to get approval from congress then.

 

[Madonis]

Even the Roman Empire fell.

I don't think anyone reading this will live to see the fall of the American Empire though, unless an unexpected event like an actual World War III accelerates the process.

 

[Serge85]

As a Colombian, all I want to say is, thanks America. Don't pay attention to those first world lefties that don't know the situation around here, today is party time!

 

[MayauMiao]

 

[Madonis]

What's wild and dishonest is taking that statement out of context, especially when Trump had been quite friendly towards plenty of dictators (Putin, Kim, etc) and didn't do anything about Maduro during his first term.

 

[AJUMP23]

We control the country and calling the oil there stolen is interesting.

 

[DeepEnigma]

couldn't agree more.

I know, let's run cover and call him a legitimate leader under a "sovereign nation" whom was "kidnapped."

 

[TylerD]

Pete is soooooo vertical right now. What a fucking clown

 

[Madonis]

We control the country and calling the oil there stolen is interesting.

It's very crass of Don to say so, but modern empires get to do that sort of thing. If oil is available, then it's always about oil in the end. Not the first nor the last time.

The "control" part is more open to debate since nothing seems to guarantee the outcome right now. Again, outside of another attack, intervention, invasion...whatever you want to call it.

 

[Sub_Level]

Feels like Venezuelans were between rock and a hard place. Corrupt president and rampant poverty but is now replaced by (presumably) more economic prosperity at the cost of subservience to American empire. We will have a finger in every natural resource pie they have.

Shit. Too bad when I invest I dont follow or do any of those weird prediction markets. Looks like big money to be made if you roll the dice following big bets. LOL


I forgot about this. But geez, their expense budget must be scraped back. Cheap Domino's and Papa Johns pizzas are shit. LOL

Pan Pizza from Dominos is really good. Also if you are mass-ordering 10+ pizzas I would rather do a chain than a local place which doesn't necessarily deal with that scale order.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Great. Shouldnt have been hard to get approval from congress then.

They. Don't. Need. To.

Congress passed that power to the state department for such instances.

Which Obama quite liberally and blissfully took advantage of all while these very same talking points never popped up in the global MSM propaganda apparatus nor on the socials.

Not in such fervor from those on the left. After all.

 

[Banjo64]

Re: international law.

Throughout human history only one common theme is present during war or actions taken against other territories. That is 'how can we achieve our desired outcomes'. The how has never mattered and ultimately force is typically the most effective way to succeed.

Paperwork loving bureaucrats can cry but they can't change this fundamental fact.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We control the country and calling the oil there stolen is interesting.

Technically it was. We had contracts with them they weren't fulfilling, but rather trying to ship it out to China, etc..

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Are there any reports of venezualens attacking? obviously they knew it's best to stand back in this situation, but I would imagine maduro has some security that might try to fight back.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Pete is soooooo vertical right now. What a fucking clown

A "clown" that oversaw an absolutely impeccable operation. Complete with blowing up Chavez's corpse.

Goofies Reeturners stay goofy. And stay losing.

 

[EviLore]

 

[Madonis]

Technically it was. We had contracts with them they weren't fulfilling, but rather trying to ship it out to China, etc..

I doubt any of those contracts demanded that Venezuela couldn't supply any other country with oil. Until recently, they were still sending plenty of oil to the U.S.

Then again, as this thread has made clear, the law (even the law of contracts) means nothing. Or, more accurately, whatever the most powerful want it to mean.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Are there any reports of venezualens attacking? obviously they knew it's best to stand back in this situation, but I would imagine maduro has some security that might try to fight back.

They said one helicopter got hit but remained flyable, and after they grabbed him they engaged in self-defence while exfiltrating.

 

[Platinumstorm]

.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I doubt any of those contracts demanded that Venezuela couldn't supply any other country with oil.

Then again, as this thread has made clear, the law (even the law of contracts) means nothing. Or, more accurately, whatever the most powerful want it to mean.

Go quote someone else, you're a total waste of time that runs the established 'ganda.

 

[Varteras]

 

[LordCBH]

Bunch of commie scum are REALLY upset over this lmao

 

[Madonis]

Go quote someone else, you're a total waste of time.

And you don't have any arguments other than personal attacks and gloating in support of the con man. Suit yourself.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Not one soldier launched a MANPAD at choppers right in front of them, that tells you everything.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Pan Pizza from Dominos is really good. Also if you are mass-ordering 10+ pizzas I would rather do a chain than a local place which doesn't necessarily deal with that scale order.

I'll give their pan pizza a try one day. Pretty sure I never did it.

Maybe in the US Dom's is better. In Canada, Dom's and PJ's are bottom of the barrel along with Pizza Pizza (another chain of bargain pizzas). Googling it, it seems the Dom's pizzas are made different in US vs Canada. The US pics look way better and google says they got thicker dough (though that's sourced from a reddit post).

True. Big chains got the ovens to make more pizzas.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Suit yourself.

 

[SlimySnake]

I know, let's run cover and call him a legitimate leader under a "sovereign nation" whom was "kidnapped."

we are going in circles. i literally replied to you and said he was a dictator. this isnt about him or any other dictator. its about how this sets a dangerous precedent that will be used by anyone including our enemies to remove presidents everywhere around the world. its trump today but in 3 years it could be a democrat doing this to whoever he doesnt like. there is no shortage of dictators in this world. we cant have presidents going off on their own deciding who to arrest and who to bomb based on what side of the bed they woke up that morning.

They. Don't. Need. To.

Congress passed that power to the state department for such instances.

Which Obama quite liberally and blissfully took advantage of all while these very same talking points never popped up in the global MSM propaganda apparatus nor on the socials.

Not in such fervor from those on the left. After all.

again, this isnt about left or right. left staying silent on drone strikes back then doesnt mean we should allow our presidents to do whatever the fuck they want. we have to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them.

 

[EN250]

This whole farce war with Venezuela is so cowardly one-sided. And how they're a valid target and not Mexico who we share a border with and where the majority drugs that enter the US comes from is ridiculous. Pulling this shit two days into the new year after yammering about peace and "no more wars" all last year. Ugh.

Venezuela is cancer spreading everywhere, corrupted every other country near it, Tren de Aragua is an organized mob attacking all the South already, Goverment is a mix of military, drug cartel and straight up thieves + Cuban intelligence service

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'll read up on it more, but what did the US do?

Literally just fly in and grab Maduro and leave? No big shootout or air battle or anything? Seems like a one-sided attack and extraction. Wild.

 

[calico]

Conference said they came under some fire.

The limited nature of the fire encountered and the talk of the US running the country makes it pretty clear that whoever is running the Venezuelan military today was on board with this plan.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

A "clown" that oversaw an absolutely impeccable operation. Complete with blowing up Chavez's corpse.

Goofies Reeturners stay goofy. And stay losing.

The chavez touch was legendary.

 

[EverydayBeast]

It's drugs being made there and being sent into the U.S. this is the kinda of mission from a call of duty game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

again, this isnt about left or right. left staying silent on drone strikes back then doesnt mean we should allow our presidents to do whatever the fuck they want. we have to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them.

I'm not losing sleep over a cartel leader turned commie dictator being arrested with no loss of US troops lives.

 

[RJMacready73]

You're restarted. 2016 called, they want their fake talking point back.

Just in the last year, I'm not saying he's a russian asset I'm just saying he's Putin's Puppet

Early 2025 (January-February): Trump briefly pushed for a "bad peace" deal, including threats to cut U.S. intelligence sharing and air defense support to Ukraine if it did not agree to terms involving territorial concessions to Russia. This was seen by some as tilting the balance toward Putin.

February 2025: Trump administration statements emphasized demands on Ukraine, such as not pledging new military aid, opposing Ukraine's NATO membership, and pushing for resource concessions worth $500 billion while encouraging friendship with Russia. Critics viewed this as one-sided pressure on Kyiv.

March 2025: The White House released outcomes from U.S.-Ukraine expert groups on the Black Sea, reiterating Trump's stance that the conflict must end quickly to stop the killing, which some interpreted as prioritizing a swift resolution potentially at Ukraine's expense over sustained support.

April 2025: Trump proposed a peace plan that included recognizing Russian control over Crimea and parts of Donbas, described by analysts as rewarding aggression and coercing Ukraine. This drew comparisons to historical appeasement.

May 2025: Trump escalated arms deliveries to Ukraine but simultaneously imposed sanctions on Russia while claiming ownership of the proxy war, which mixed signals were seen by some as performative toughness masking reluctance to confront Putin directly.

June 2025: Following Ukrainian strikes on Russian airfields, Trump did not issue warnings to Putin against retaliation or demands to cease attacks on Ukrainian civilians, leading to accusations of weakness and loyalty to Russian interests.

July 2025: In quotes from Berlin talks, Trump described Ukrainian President Zelenskyy positively but emphasized an end to the war, while pledging more weapons; however, the overall timeline of shifts highlighted by reports showed evolving positions that critics said ultimately favored Russian negotiating leverage.

November 2025: Trump disregarded broad U.S. public support for Ukraine and delivered what was described as a Kremlin-drafted ultimatum to Zelenskyy, demanding capitulation by Thanksgiving, including territorial and neutrality concessions. This was framed as betraying an ally.

December 2025: Amid stalled peace talks, Trump sided with Putin over Zelenskyy, claiming the war was "closer than ever" to resolution after meetings, while applying pressure on Kyiv to compromise. Reports noted frustration with Ukraine's resistance and warnings of escalation if no deal was reached, seen as accommodating Russian demands.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Looks like dr disrespect LOL

Been doing some random news searches now. So I havent kept up with the news. I just saw that pic online legit.

I thought that pic above was an AI generated meme of Saddam Hussein. lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just in the last year, I'm not saying he's a russian asset I'm just saying he's Putin's Puppet

I have doubts.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

As the troops reached the house, there was intense firefights. The Americans ran through the opposition and got to maduro before he could close the door on the safe room. Crazy, insane efficiency.

 

[Spukc]

Left Caracas when i was 6, parents had to go because all they saved turned into monopoly money.

Fuck this maduro pig the people deserve better

 

[cabbage5k2]

Honestly this is the first time I really think President Trump made the right move here, and an insanely clever at that. No casualties, the objective captured quickly and cleanly with what seems to be actual support from the country itself; because of this a bunch of other dominos (Cuba, Iran, etc) may either decline or outright fail now. Meanwhile, Venezuela may become much friendlier to the West in general, and China and Russia will be put at notice towards how US is willing to behave to hostile administrations and terrorist groups.

Kudos Trump, kudos.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's drugs being made there and being sent into the U.S. this is the kinda of mission from a call of duty game.

Delta Force had the 'God Mode' cheat active.

I'm in favor of doing it to Cuba too. Except I'd make Cuba a US territory and be done with it.

Justin 'T' in the north is nervous about his Papi's legacy right now.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

For a "Putin's Puppet" he sure is securing vast oil reserves which could threaten the Russian oil-based economy if oil prices were to suddenly drop when the Venezuelan fields start running again at high capacity

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Delta Force had the 'God Mode' cheat active.

 

[EviLore]

As the troops reached the house, there was intense firefights. The Americans ran through the opposition and got to maduro before he could close the door on the safe room. Crazy, insane efficiency.

Maybe we can get a CoD mission out of this after all

 

[Scary_Larry]

Anyone that thinks this is about drugs, communism or immigration are fools. It's about oil, rare earth minerals and in this case, it always has been.

 

[LordCBH]

Just in the last year, I'm not saying he's a russian asset I'm just saying he's Putin's Puppet

Early 2025 (January-February): Trump briefly pushed for a "bad peace" deal, including threats to cut U.S. intelligence sharing and air defense support to Ukraine if it did not agree to terms involving territorial concessions to Russia. This was seen by some as tilting the balance toward Putin.

February 2025: Trump administration statements emphasized demands on Ukraine, such as not pledging new military aid, opposing Ukraine's NATO membership, and pushing for resource concessions worth $500 billion while encouraging friendship with Russia. Critics viewed this as one-sided pressure on Kyiv.

March 2025: The White House released outcomes from U.S.-Ukraine expert groups on the Black Sea, reiterating Trump's stance that the conflict must end quickly to stop the killing, which some interpreted as prioritizing a swift resolution potentially at Ukraine's expense over sustained support.

April 2025: Trump proposed a peace plan that included recognizing Russian control over Crimea and parts of Donbas, described by analysts as rewarding aggression and coercing Ukraine. This drew comparisons to historical appeasement.

May 2025: Trump escalated arms deliveries to Ukraine but simultaneously imposed sanctions on Russia while claiming ownership of the proxy war, which mixed signals were seen by some as performative toughness masking reluctance to confront Putin directly.

June 2025: Following Ukrainian strikes on Russian airfields, Trump did not issue warnings to Putin against retaliation or demands to cease attacks on Ukrainian civilians, leading to accusations of weakness and loyalty to Russian interests.

July 2025: In quotes from Berlin talks, Trump described Ukrainian President Zelenskyy positively but emphasized an end to the war, while pledging more weapons; however, the overall timeline of shifts highlighted by reports showed evolving positions that critics said ultimately favored Russian negotiating leverage.

November 2025: Trump disregarded broad U.S. public support for Ukraine and delivered what was described as a Kremlin-drafted ultimatum to Zelenskyy, demanding capitulation by Thanksgiving, including territorial and neutrality concessions. This was framed as betraying an ally.

December 2025: Amid stalled peace talks, Trump sided with Putin over Zelenskyy, claiming the war was "closer than ever" to resolution after meetings, while applying pressure on Kyiv to compromise. Reports noted frustration with Ukraine's resistance and warnings of escalation if no deal was reached, seen as accommodating Russian demands.

I mean like it or not, any peace deal WILL come with concessions from Ukraine. That's the only actual off ramp. Sucks? Sure it does.

 

[Madonis]

As the troops reached the house, there was intense firefights. The Americans ran through the opposition and got to maduro before he could close the door on the safe room. Crazy, insane efficiency.

That would be cool to see, if they are ever willing to publicly reveal the footage.

 

[TylerD]

A "clown" that oversaw an absolutely impeccable operation. Complete with blowing up Chavez's corpse.

Goofies Reeturners stay goofy. And stay losing.

I have a lot of respect for the men and women of our armed forces and it's impressive that this operation appeared to go so well. I have none and will continue to have none for Pete Hegseth who is pretty easily the least qualified Secretary of Defense in our countries history.

His most important qualification was being on Trump's TV

 

[EviLore]