Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Yeah, I'd take any news coming out of India that isn't confirmed by Western sources with a grain of salt.
Air India Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crashes after takeoff to London Gatwick
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Yeah, I'd take any news coming out of India that isn't confirmed by Western sources with a grain of salt.
Zathalus
Member
Not impossible that the airliner was at fault, but Air India has gone almost 43 years without a fatal crash.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
This 'Boeing' stuff really gets on my titties.
1000 + Dreamliner's in service and 14 years until first fatal accident - that nobody yet knows the cause of.
Current sky over the main of the USA - how many yellow dots are Boeing? How many yellow dots are 787s?
www.flightradar24.com
1000 + Dreamliner's in service and 14 years until first fatal accident - that nobody yet knows the cause of.
Current sky over the main of the USA - how many yellow dots are Boeing? How many yellow dots are 787s?
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Windle Poons
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Reckons he was on the plane.
Mohonky
Member
Nah, I suspect pilot pulled nose in a last ditch.
You can see from other angles it just doesn't get any lift. It comes up maybe 100ft from the run way and just refuses to climb higher, angle of attack for awhile seems pretty steady, then last second nose comes up when it's already on a slow descent like the pilots were pulling the nose up instinctively to try and climb but it wasn't climbing for some period before that, it just to that 100 or so feet and just didn't climb anymore.
Mohonky
Member
In recent years, Boeing seems to be the common factor
BBC news showed his boarding pass. Crazy to be able to walk away. Just insane luck.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Ugh, yeah, that does standout.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
kpopSuperstar
Member
Insane, RIP.
Windle Poons
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There are audible warnings though if the flaps aren't set due to mistakes in the past on other aircraft - you could literally pull the circuit breakers on some aircraft types to stop warnings.
Other aircraft - not 787 aircraft I mean - earlier plane types.
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Go_Ly_Dow
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Chittagong
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Amazing that one person survived, basically unharmed. Unbelievable.
Rest in Peace to all. Tragic.
This is officially the worlds worst air disaster in the past decade+
Rest in Peace to all. Tragic.
This is officially the worlds worst air disaster in the past decade+
Reizo Ryuu
Member
MayauMiao
Member
There was also no burn indication at the tail of the plane so the fireball might not have engulf the entire plane. Its possible he was seperated from the plane far enough to not get burned.
Yet there are plane crash survivors in the past.
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
This is awfully sad (if true)....
Always live every day like it would be your last.
That is so heartbreaking. Kids getting their future cut like that.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Angle of attack looks okay so it looks like there was a loss of power during the climb causing the stall. Also Boeing aside, the 787s have an impeccable record and is an absolute workhorse for international travel so this incident is really an exception.
RIP.
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FeralEcho
Member
Better well and alive in my 3rd world country shithole than dying on my way to a first world one...
At this point with the insane amount of airplane crashes just in the last 2 years I don't see how anyone with a straight face can say "airplanes are statistically the least likely to crash compared to cars"...yes that might be true but when a single airplane crashes it takes hundreds of souls with it...
Fuck that,get me in a car anyday of the week compared to that.
RIP to all victims.(It looks like it fell in a residential area as well...)
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
You haven't been in the West recently have you.
FeralEcho
Member
I'm from Europe. How far west do I need to be and wtf does that have to do with anything?
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
They're not 1st World countries anymore.
FeralEcho
Member
Mentally sure...the woke virus has destroyed them in that regard but in terms of economy and day to day living it would still be better than Romania for example.
The amount of corruption in play over here,abuse of the lower class and sheer stupidity of the masses that give companies carte blanche to manipulate the population makes every day feel like bizzaro world in here,add to that the fact that even the woke virus has crept itself up in here in the past years and suddenly even the worst country in the west somehow seems better from the outside than here.
But then again,keyword here is from the outside as I never lived in the west so you may be right and from the inside it could very well be the same shithole I see from my viewpoint daily.
I'm about to go on a plane flight with my whole family, I need to check out of this thread
FeralEcho
Member
Stay safe brother!I'm about to go on a plane flight with my whole family, I need to check out of this thread
Dr. Suchong
Member
My sentiments exactly.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
But you get in a car and get hit by idiot on his phone and nobody cares. Your mom gets a phone call. Doesn't even make the news. Ur plane crashes and the entire world is talking about it / panicking.
Everytime you are in car there is 1 in 350 chance of getting in a wreck. When you're in a plane, there's 1 in 11 million chance. We're talking about much different things here
FeralEcho
Member
Thanks,I feel much better knowing that if I'm dead from a plane crash the whole world will be talking about me as opossed to just not...
In the end you'd still be dead bro...so who gives a fuck if it's televised or not, it's not like anything will change,cars will still crash and planes will still fall,companies don't give a shit.
Couldn't care less if anyone remembers me once I'm gone.
And sure you could get hit by a guy talking on the phone in his car but you still have a higher chance surviving that than a plane crash since t's not like everyone is driving 300mph in a lamborghini. It's not Outrun out there.
Zathalus
Member
As somebody who actually comes from a 3rd world country and is now living in the Netherlands it absolutely is first world.
Insane Metal
Member
Absolutely horrible. RIP all the victims.
Tams
Member
They really don't.
Liljagare
Member
Verified video shows Air India plane descending and moment of crash
A plane bound for London Gatwick carrying 242 people has crashed after taking off from Ahmedabad in India.
www.bbc.co.uk
Sounds like the RAT was deployed? Total loss of power?
Also amazing that someone survived, hope there are more.
Pilot+ co pilot had +9000 hrs or experience, hard to see that they would have missed proper flap settings. :\
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12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
lol that's not the point I was making... I'm saying that people die in cars so frequently that it doesn't even raise an eyebrow. It makes no sense statistically and it would be completely irrational to take a car over a commercial airliner when talking about personal safety.Thanks,I feel much better knowing that if I'm dead from a plane crash the whole world will be talking about me as opossed to just not...
In the end you'd still be dead bro...so who gives a fuck if it's televised or not, it's not like anything will change,cars will still crash and planes will still fall,companies don't give a shit.
Couldn't care less if anyone remembers me once I'm gone.
And sure you could get hit by a guy talking on the phone in his car but you still have a higher chance surviving that than a plane crash since t's not like everyone is driving 300mph in a lamborghini. It's not Outrun out there.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
I remember seeing this pop up on the screen today
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I stand corrected.
I did some further reading, and it turns out there were extensive reports of QA issues from 2019 onwards, which led to a significant number of planes being grounded for rectification work.
HoodWinked
Member
Prior to today's crash it had no fatal accidents, with the crash would be 1 in ~5million or 0.2 on this chart.
newtypepilot
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Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Always a Boeing. Thankfully I don't work on them anymore and I don't plan to until they get their shit together
RIP
RIP
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Well its very difficult for it not to be when there is only Boeing and Airbus competing in this market. Its like saying every time a car crashes its 'always Ford'
We don't know what happened. If it was birds (I don't think it was) are you still going to say 'Always a Boeing?'
I'm not putting Embraer in the same category before anyone says 'you forgot Embraer'
I'm not their ultra defence force either but 90% of my entire flight history has been aboard Boeing aircraft over the last 45 years - the fact that the A380 does the service on my most frequent flight these days is the only change, it used to be 777 for years.
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Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
Seems like a well-maintained 787 or A340 os still your best bet, statisticly.Prior to today's crash it had no fatal accidents, with the crash would be 1 in ~5million or 0.2 on this chart.