Air India Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crashes after takeoff to London Gatwick

Probably not the right time for this, but this seems extremely suspicious.

Did you see the size of that fireball? Any human being within 100m of the crash site is going to be instantly burnt to death. He has no burn indications whatsoever.

Maybe he was ejected from the plane immediately before impact and miraculously survived the drop, but then you have to ask how the hell a human body can survive anything close to that. The 787 takes off at 300km/h. Even if it lost some speed gliding, it's still moving at ~200km/h right before impact.

Yeah, I'd take any news coming out of India that isn't confirmed by Western sources with a grain of salt.
 
I'd be curious to know passenger airline crashes by manufacturer (basically Boeing vs Airbus) based on total departures and flight time. What's the disparity when those are considered?
 
This 'Boeing' stuff really gets on my titties.

1000 + Dreamliner's in service and 14 years until first fatal accident - that nobody yet knows the cause of.

Current sky over the main of the USA - how many yellow dots are Boeing? How many yellow dots are 787s?

 
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Is the 1 survivor from the buildings it hit or was he on the plane?

It's like "Unbreakable" if it's the plane.
 
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The way its nose gets up suggest an aerodynamic stall. Nightmare fuel. RIP to those poor souls.


Nah, I suspect pilot pulled nose in a last ditch.

You can see from other angles it just doesn't get any lift. It comes up maybe 100ft from the run way and just refuses to climb higher, angle of attack for awhile seems pretty steady, then last second nose comes up when it's already on a slow descent like the pilots were pulling the nose up instinctively to try and climb but it wasn't climbing for some period before that, it just to that 100 or so feet and just didn't climb anymore.
 
I'd be curious to know passenger airline crashes by manufacturer (basically Boeing vs Airbus) based on total departures and flight time. What's the disparity when those are considered?

In recent years, Boeing seems to be the common factor
 
How long before "Boeing Boeing Gone"?

Who wants to be a passenger in a Boeing? Which airlines want to buy planes from this company?
 
Looks like someone forgot flaps
There are audible warnings though if the flaps aren't set due to mistakes in the past on other aircraft - you could literally pull the circuit breakers on some aircraft types to stop warnings.

Other aircraft - not 787 aircraft I mean - earlier plane types.
 
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Amazing that one person survived, basically unharmed. Unbelievable.

Rest in Peace to all. Tragic.

This is officially the worlds worst air disaster in the past decade+
 
Did you see the size of that fireball? Any human being within 100m of the crash site is going to be instantly burnt to death. He has no burn indications whatsoever.

There was also no burn indication at the tail of the plane so the fireball might not have engulf the entire plane. Its possible he was seperated from the plane far enough to not get burned.

Maybe he was ejected from the plane immediately before impact and miraculously survived the drop, but then you have to ask how the hell a human body can survive anything close to that. The 787 takes off at 300km/h. Even if it lost some speed gliding, it's still moving at ~200km/h right before impact.

Yet there are plane crash survivors in the past.
 


Angle of attack looks okay so it looks like there was a loss of power during the climb causing the stall. Also Boeing aside, the 787s have an impeccable record and is an absolute workhorse for international travel so this incident is really an exception.

RIP.
 
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Holy shit - that is bad.

This is precisely why I will never leave my country (despite being such a major shithole).
Better well and alive in my 3rd world country shithole than dying on my way to a first world one...

At this point with the insane amount of airplane crashes just in the last 2 years I don't see how anyone with a straight face can say "airplanes are statistically the least likely to crash compared to cars"...yes that might be true but when a single airplane crashes it takes hundreds of souls with it...
Fuck that,get me in a car anyday of the week compared to that.

RIP to all victims.(It looks like it fell in a residential area as well...)
 
They're not 1st World countries anymore.
Mentally sure...the woke virus has destroyed them in that regard but in terms of economy and day to day living it would still be better than Romania for example.

The amount of corruption in play over here,abuse of the lower class and sheer stupidity of the masses that give companies carte blanche to manipulate the population makes every day feel like bizzaro world in here,add to that the fact that even the woke virus has crept itself up in here in the past years and suddenly even the worst country in the west somehow seems better from the outside than here.

But then again,keyword here is from the outside as I never lived in the west so you may be right and from the inside it could very well be the same shithole I see from my viewpoint daily.
 
Better well and alive in my 3rd world country shithole than dying on my way to a first world one...

At this point with the insane amount of airplane crashes just in the last 2 years I don't see how anyone with a straight face can say "airplanes are statistically the least likely to crash compared to cars"...yes that might be true but when a single airplane crashes it takes hundreds of souls with it...
Fuck that,get me in a car anyday of the week compared to that.

RIP to all victims.(It looks like it fell in a residential area as well...)
But you get in a car and get hit by idiot on his phone and nobody cares. Your mom gets a phone call. Doesn't even make the news. Ur plane crashes and the entire world is talking about it / panicking.

Everytime you are in car there is 1 in 350 chance of getting in a wreck. When you're in a plane, there's 1 in 11 million chance. We're talking about much different things here
 
But you get in a car and get hit by idiot on his phone and nobody cares. Your mom gets a phone call. Doesn't even make the news. Ur plane crashes and the entire world is talking about it / panicking.

Everytime you are in car there is 1 in 350 chance of getting in a wreck. When you're in a plane, there's 1 in 11 million chance. We're talking about much different things here
Thanks,I feel much better knowing that if I'm dead from a plane crash the whole world will be talking about me as opossed to just not...
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In the end you'd still be dead bro...so who gives a fuck if it's televised or not, it's not like anything will change,cars will still crash and planes will still fall,companies don't give a shit.

Couldn't care less if anyone remembers me once I'm gone.

And sure you could get hit by a guy talking on the phone in his car but you still have a higher chance surviving that than a plane crash since t's not like everyone is driving 300mph in a lamborghini. It's not Outrun out there.
 
Thanks,I feel much better knowing that if I'm dead from a plane crash the whole world will be talking about me as opossed to just not...
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In the end you'd still be dead bro...so who gives a fuck if it's televised or not, it's not like anything will change,cars will still crash and planes will still fall,companies don't give a shit.

Couldn't care less if anyone remembers me once I'm gone.

And sure you could get hit by a guy talking on the phone in his car but you still have a higher chance surviving that than a plane crash since t's not like everyone is driving 300mph in a lamborghini. It's not Outrun out there.
lol that's not the point I was making... I'm saying that people die in cars so frequently that it doesn't even raise an eyebrow. It makes no sense statistically and it would be completely irrational to take a car over a commercial airliner when talking about personal safety.
 
They really don't.

I stand corrected.

I did some further reading, and it turns out there were extensive reports of QA issues from 2019 onwards, which led to a significant number of planes being grounded for rectification work.
 
I stand corrected.

I did some further reading, and it turns out there were extensive reports of QA issues from 2019 onwards, which led to a significant number of planes being grounded for rectification work.

Prior to today's crash it had no fatal accidents, with the crash would be 1 in ~5million or 0.2 on this chart.

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Always a Boeing. Thankfully I don't work on them anymore and I don't plan to until they get their shit together

RIP
Well its very difficult for it not to be when there is only Boeing and Airbus competing in this market. Its like saying every time a car crashes its 'always Ford'

We don't know what happened. If it was birds (I don't think it was) are you still going to say 'Always a Boeing?'

I'm not putting Embraer in the same category before anyone says 'you forgot Embraer'

I'm not their ultra defence force either but 90% of my entire flight history has been aboard Boeing aircraft over the last 45 years - the fact that the A380 does the service on my most frequent flight these days is the only change, it used to be 777 for years.
 
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