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[Represent.]

Need to see some action in the next episode. The adventure has been cool, but I wanna see the animation team go to work. Give me a long fight scene next ep.

Man, we need to see the manga get animated badly. Some awesome fights in there after the tournament of power

 

[YCoCg]

They fucking did it, the mad men did it:

Spoiler

Super Saiyan 4 Goku is back

 

[kunonabi]

They fucking did it, the mad men did it:

Spoiler

Super Saiyan 4 Goku is back

Looks hideous. I'll take z Broly and the original of this over Toriyama's versions every day.

 

[Codes 208]

Looks hideous. I'll take z Broly and the original of this over Toriyama's versions every day.

I actually prefer the red hair and goku not magically becoming an adult with yellow ass jeans because reasons

 

[rubik's dude]

I actually prefer the red hair and goku not magically becoming an adult with yellow ass jeans because reasons

I mean, Piccolo somehow has the ability to zap clothes onto anyone. Plus, Toriyama stopped drawing Saiyan tails and left Launch outta the story cause he forgot. He also forgot about SS2. Also Roshi blew up the moon.

Magically becoming an adult with yellow jeans outta nowhere is on par imo lol.

 

[Represent.]

Holy fuck.

Yo, that wish BETTER BEEEEE for everyone to turn back into an adult again, and we see Adult SSJ 4 Goku vs Gomah

 

[March Climber]

Also Roshi blew up the moon.

They could handwaive this away by saying Capsule Corp built an artificial moon as a replacement.

Dr. Briefs has an infinite money glitch anyway.

 

[Codes 208]

I mean, Piccolo somehow has the ability to zap clothes onto anyone. Plus, Toriyama stopped drawing Saiyan tails and left Launch outta the story cause he forgot. He also forgot about SS2. Also Roshi blew up the moon.

Magically becoming an adult with yellow jeans outta nowhere is on par imo lol.

-Piccolo is a Namekian, using ki to perform magic is second nature to them.
-that is true
-Also true and thats very Toriyama
-beefcake Roshi is too OP plz nerf

Ssj4 was just a natural evolution of saiyan biology, using their tails to fuel a new form. Magic has nothing to do with it.
The only reason why goku grew up was because the directors realized making goku a kid in gt was a dumb mistake. As for the pants? Well gt was made in the 90's, soooo…

 

[Codes 208]

On an unrelated note, people are theorizing that the new version of ssj4 will be the path of the demons (since it was that old demon Namekian that gave him the power to transform)

This would make it as a parallel form to the god forms from super. Which is kind if a neat way to re-canonize the form

 

[YCoCg]

This back end of the series just keeps on giving

 

[EviLore]

Haven't kept up, so it's stayed good?

 

[KyoZz]

Haven't kept up, so it's stayed good?

It's shit, terrible writing and has no soul. But new form so...yay I guess?

 

[YCoCg]

Haven't kept up, so it's stayed good?

It took a bit of a dip, and a few episodes did feel pointless but once the final fight started this has just been crazy fan service.



And Vegeta likes them soapy boobs

 

[rubik's dude]

I'm probably in the minority, but I love the og series and its raunchy, crude humor. Watching it now, it feels like an Adult Swim show. Some of the shit Roshi does is shocking. Plus it's just a charming as hell show.

In comparison, I have no interest in going back to Z. It's dry as fuck. Super and Daima are better since they lean more into the comedy, but they still feel sanitized in comparison.

 

[RagnarokIV]

I'm probably in the minority, but I love the og series and its raunchy, crude humor. Watching it now, it feels like an Adult Swim show. Some of the shit Roshi does is shocking. Plus it's just a charming as hell show.

In comparison, I have no interest in going back to Z. It's dry as fuck. Super and Daima are better since they lean more into the comedy, but they still feel sanitized in comparison.

Mate, Z escalates and goes fucken HAAARRRDDD.

The Frieza stuff is bleak as fuck. They should have ended it with Goku dying along with Namek as the only Super Saiyan.

 

[bitbydeath]

I'm probably in the minority, but I love the og series and its raunchy, crude humor. Watching it now, it feels like an Adult Swim show. Some of the shit Roshi does is shocking. Plus it's just a charming as hell show.

In comparison, I have no interest in going back to Z. It's dry as fuck. Super and Daima are better since they lean more into the comedy, but they still feel sanitized in comparison.

Have you seen the Kai version?
It is far more condensed, almost halving the overall episode count.

Eg.
Saiyan Saga is cut down from 39 episodes to 18 episodes, removing all the slow parts.

 

[Codes 208]

Haven't kept up, so it's stayed good?

Some nothing episodes but the action is top notch.

I personally think what we've seen so far is better than 95% of the super anime (minus the movies. Super Broly is still, by far, my favorite bit of the anime)

But i know thats not exactly the highest bar

 

[rubik's dude]

Have you seen the Kai version?
It is far more condensed, almost halving the overall episode count.

Eg.
Saiyan Saga is cut down from 39 episodes to 18 episodes, removing all the slow parts.

Oh yeah, I've seen Z and Kai, and even Abridged. It's not really the pacing, I'm just not as interested in the power-scaling/fighting aspect like when I was younger.

That's why I prefer the og series now; it's just a gag anime with silly fights and raunchy humor.

 

[Codes 208]

Oh yeah, I've seen Z and Kai, and even Abridged. It's not really the pacing, I'm just not as interested in the power-scaling/fighting aspect like when I was younger.

That's why I prefer the og series now; it's just a gag anime with silly fights and raunchy humor.

Thats fair. the og wasnt without some awesome fights too so its not like that opinion is a hot take or anything.

Goku vs Junior is still in my top 5

 

[bitbydeath]

I'm finally getting around to this now and the nerfing is so bad. When Goku arrives in the demon realm he often comments how he struggles to move about, yet later Bulma arrives and makes no comments at all about it.

Fighting soldiers he and Vegeta should be moving so fast they're invisible yet they move like regular people and are often hiding.

 

[Northeastmonk]

I'm going to get to this once I'm done with Super. I'm at the Tournament of Power. I've liked Super a lot. I'm very lttp but it's been good for me regardless. I bought the Daima DLC for Kakarot. Not sure what to expect from Daima. I've seen footage of the final confrontation in Daima. I'll probably watch the Piccolo/Gohan and Broly films before starting it. I'm feeling the Tournament of Power hype.

I was on a Dragonball hiatus for years. My biggest years were as a teenager when the Buu saga was being aired in NA. I had the games, the t-shirts, posters and frosted tips. lol lately, watching Super has been a great reminder to why I loved this show so much.

 

[Codes 208]

A bit late but for those interested: theres a ton of rumors/leaks swirling around that super is getting the FMA:Brotherhood treatment this year (as in its getting reanimated but will be sticking closer to the manga this time around, we'll even be getting the moro and granolah arcs)

Notable differences include:
-the beerus fight was largely the same but they skip the RoF arc and the freeza force even notes they got skipped
-frost mentions he only resorts to back-handed tactics when pushed to the edge. The manga makes him more of an anti-hero rather than a full-on scumbag like in the anime
-Hit beat vegeta so easily because transforming into blue against Cabba drained all of his energy
-goku doesnt use blue kaioken until the ToP
-full-powered SSJB is a thing (same concept as FPSSJ Goku learned before his fight with cell, maximizing strength without draining ki)
-trunks never gets a rage form, instead he learns how to heal as a kaio-shin protege
(his ssj2 form is stronger than the anime though)
-goku ALMOST uses hakai on merged zamasu
-goku black can turn into a regualr ssj
-when merged zamasu's body breaks down, instead of turning into space soup, he just multiplies into thousands just like with metal cooler (i bring this up because them running like little bitches when Zenno pops up was hilarious and infinitely better than the anime version)
-Toppo BEATS goku in the preliminaries
-gohan is the one who beats Kefla instead of UI Goku
-goku learns UI after watching master roshi pull it off against Jiren

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

but will be sticking closer to the manga this time around

This is how you know it's manga glazer bs because the anime was first, there's no "sticking to the manga" because it's not an adaptation of it, they are two separate products that both follow an outline toriyama wrote and any super manga related material doesn't exist for Toei because they don't have the license for it.

 

[Northeastmonk]

This is how you know it's manga glazer bs because the anime was first, there's no "sticking to the manga" because it's not an adaptation of it, they are two separate products that both follow an outline toriyama wrote and any super manga related material doesn't exist for Toei because they don't have the license for it.

I noticed in Super that a lot of stuff that happened felt shortened in the Manga, especially when it came to Beerus and SSG. There are only 27 volumes in Super and over 100 episodes of the anime. The manga felt more like a short story than the anime.

 

[Casisalive]

Dragon ball finished after GT, everything after that is trash.

 

[YCoCg]

Dragon ball finished after GT, everything after that is trash.

Dragon ball finished before GT, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

 

[bitbydeath]

Dragon ball finished before GT, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

I didn't mind Super, but GT and DAIMA I wouldn't miss.

 

[Teslerum]

Dragon ball finished before GT, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

Dragon Ball finished with the Cell Saga, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

 

[YCoCg]

Dragon Ball finished with the Cell Saga, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

Dragon ball finished with the Frieza Saga, everything after that is trash.

Fixed again. And yes I like the theory that Goku was meant to die on Namek after becoming the only Super Saiyan.

 

[Teslerum]

Dragon ball finished with the Frieza Saga, everything after that is trash.

Fixed again. And yes I like the theory that Goku was meant to die on Namek after becoming the only Super Saiyan.

Joking aside I think the ending of the original DB (before time-skip), Frieza Saga (Because Goku's arc is pretty much fulfilled in it.) and Cell Saga (Because you get a passing on the torch moment and you also have everything in a pretty good place at the end of it) are all good cut-off points.

Everything after Cell just felt added on and often undermines what came before it. *Trash* is over the top as there's still plenty of enjoyable moments, but as a story? I'd rather have any of the three above cut-off points.

 

[Baemono]

everything after that is trash

Come on now, we got peak shônen anime with this

 

[//DEVIL//]

You people are crazy. Dragon Ball Super is the peak Dragon Ball anime. The tournament of power was amazing.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

You people are crazy. Dragon Ball Super is the peak Dragon Ball anime. The tournament of power was amazing.

Tournament of Power is one of my favorite arcs and I thought Super Hero was some of the best DB content ever made.

 

[Codes 208]

Tournament of Power is one of my favorite arcs and I thought Super Hero was some of the best DB content ever made.

It had a ton of pacing issues but its peaks (like UI Goku) were up there with classic Z moments.

I noticed in Super that a lot of stuff that happened felt shortened in the Manga, especially when it came to Beerus and SSG. There are only 27 volumes in Super and over 100 episodes of the anime. The manga felt more like a short story than the anime.

This has a lot to do with the manga being monthly with twice the length for chapters.

Though I personally think the manga picks up and gets far more interesting by the goku black arc (and then you get the unique arcs like moro and granolah where the manga honestly outshines the anime for me.)

 

[Casisalive]

Dragon ball finished before GT, everything after that is trash.

Fixed it for you.

In GT Goku isn't a retard, Super turned him into a clown. Super was just trash couldn't believe what i was watching, there are good scenes but over all its garbage.

Look what they did to my boy Brolly.

 

[Northeastmonk]

In GT Goku isn't a retard, Super turned him into a clown. Super was just trash couldn't believe what i was watching, there are good scenes but over all its garbage.

Look what they did to my boy Brolly.

I wouldn't say he was that bad, but he did come off as pestering others more than he usually does.

I finished watching all 131 episodes of Super. Autonomous Ultra Instinct was insane. That burst after everyone noticed the change in the air. The whole anticipation of his return felt so good. I had goosebumps similar to how I felt in Z. Super gave me a lot of the feels at the time. IMO Roshi should have been a catalyst, but they basically made Goku some sorta savior.

I heard Daima takes place 3 years before Super. Makes no sense if Goku tells Kale that there's a SSJ3 when he could have told her about the obtainable SSJ4 if Daima is indeed canon. It would have pushed her even further, but she never got to that point of SSJ3 regardless.

I've heard some talk about Ultra Ego and Gohan's new form. I'm excited to watch the last two films they've done. Piccolo also needed an upgrade. It always bugged me how long it took him to charge up his Special Beam Cannon.

Here's hoping Goten surprises us fans with some sick potential.

Edit: Daima is an alternative timeline. Makes sense then

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Wait, is this official?

 

[Northeastmonk]

Wait, is this official?

The new film coming out this year? I've seen rumors about a bunch of new Dragonball projects on their way.

 

[Represent.]

Wait, is this official?

No. Believe nothing until Jan 26th when they have the Showcase happening. Theres been endless rumors. But we know for a fact they have 3 big announcements coming Jan 26. Just have to wait to ind out what they are.

1 of them is confirmed to be a game.

The other 2 are likely either the return of the Manga, a movie, or Super 2.0

The new film coming out this year? I've seen rumors about a bunch of new Dragonball projects on their way.

Whole bunch of new announcements coming Jan 26

but dont believe anything til then. all we know is big announcements are coming that date

 

[Northeastmonk]

I watched the Broly and Super Hero films. Gotta say Broly movie was awesome. Holy cow at those fights and the build up left and right. Super Hero film was an interesting one. I had to get up to speed where everything is at. The Super Hero film with Beast Gohan makes more sense since they haven't had the anime beyond the tournament of power arc.

I really hope we see a good game from all this. The high animation in the Super Hero movie makes me think they could totally make a great DBS game. Can't wait to see what they announce later this month.

 

[YCoCg]

I watched the Broly and Super Hero films. Gotta say Broly movie was awesome. Holy cow at those fights and the build up left and right. Super Hero film was an interesting one. I had to get up to speed where everything is at. The Super Hero film with Beast Gohan makes more sense since they haven't had the anime beyond the tournament of power arc.

I really hope we see a good game from all this. The high animation in the Super Hero movie makes me think they could totally make a great DBS game. Can't wait to see what they announce later this month.

Broly was the absolute BEST of 2D Animated Dragon Ball, and Super Hero was a good lore expansion confirming details about Gero/16/etc as well as finally giving Piccolo a power up transformation. Beast Gohan looks goofy though.

 

[Northeastmonk]

Broly was the absolute BEST of 2D Animated Dragon Ball, and Super Hero was a good lore expansion confirming details about Gero/16/etc as well as finally giving Piccolo a power up transformation. Beast Gohan looks goofy though.

Did you notice the names being announced in the Broly vs Goku track?


I was watching that fight and thought they echoed his "Kakarot" rant as some homage to OG Broly. Apparently it was intentional due to the popularity of versus battles in places like Mexico. If someone has more to add, but that's what I was looking into today.

Beast Gohan makes more sense to me if Gohan has the be the savior. He's tapped into his fury from SSJ2 Cell days. A part of me likes how it pulls him out of studious look he had in Super. He comes off as a protector with that form, like he's going to break the ceiling.

Idk about you but he needed something besides Mystic Gohan. That was cool but he's got no color to his hair. I know Gohan trained hard during the Buu Saga and I read where he was intended to be the main hero versus Buu but Akira Toriyama changed his mind.

 

[OccasionalPoster]

I wouldn't say he was that bad, but he did come off as pestering others more than he usually does.

I finished watching all 131 episodes of Super. Autonomous Ultra Instinct was insane. That burst after everyone noticed the change in the air. The whole anticipation of his return felt so good. I had goosebumps similar to how I felt in Z. Super gave me a lot of the feels at the time. IMO Roshi should have been a catalyst, but they basically made Goku some sorta savior.

I heard Daima takes place 3 years before Super. Makes no sense if Goku tells Kale that there's a SSJ3 when he could have told her about the obtainable SSJ4 if Daima is indeed canon. It would have pushed her even further, but she never got to that point of SSJ3 regardless.

I've heard some talk about Ultra Ego and Gohan's new form. I'm excited to watch the last two films they've done. Piccolo also needed an upgrade. It always bugged me how long it took him to charge up his Special Beam Cannon.

Here's hoping Goten surprises us fans with some sick potential.

Edit: Daima is an alternative timeline. Makes sense then

UGH, no want!

 

[OccasionalPoster]

Resume the manga.

Resume the anime with current onepiece visuals.

Don't make a kid/teen Trunks and Goten movie, that's a terrible idea.

Make a fighterz level game again or an RPG that doesn't suck.

It's not rocket science.

The franchise is being mismanaged.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Where should a person even start watching dragon ball these days? I've never seen it

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Where should a person even start watching dragon ball these days? I've never seen it

Start with Z like most people outside of Japan.

 

[The Skull]

Just do Black Frieza arc and give Vegeta the W against him.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Where should a person even start watching dragon ball these days? I've never seen it

Just watch Z, or Kai if you're strapped for time.

 

[bitbydeath]

Where should a person even start watching dragon ball these days? I've never seen it

Dbz > Db > Db Super.
(GT and Daima are optional)

DBZ Kai is the best way to watch DBZ, but it can be difficult to find.
I'd also highly recommend Dragon Ball, which takes place before it, but it is less action/high powered oriented and more adventure/drama.

Db has a slower story but the overall payoffs are incredible. (Note: The first season isn't representative of the show but has a lot of character introductions so would still recommend watching it overall)

You can watch Db first and arguably from a drama perspective it is better than DBZ but as it's less high stakes action oriented and contains a fair bit of Japanese raunchy humour, it can turn people off.