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DirtInUrEye said:
Imagine if they updated Complex from GoldenEye and that's how I think of SM. I think it's a wonderfully thought-out space actually, strong with its own design and theming, albeit in a much more compact space compared to the other maps.
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Its not a bad map, it's a great map. But the fact that it can be compared to other PVP indoor maps is why it isn't my favorite. I could fire up another multiplayer 3rd person game and get a similar flavor, I can't fire up another game and get a Dam Battlegrounds or Buried City experience.
 
BigBeauford said:
Its not a bad map, it's a great map. But the fact that it can be compared to other PVP indoor maps is why it isn't my favorite. I could fire up another multiplayer 3rd person game and get a similar flavor, I can't fire up another game and get a Dam Battlegrounds or Buried City experience.
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I dunno, I think Space Port is a bit too lacking on POIs and other interesting structures/scenery. I thought it was good at first, but at this point it has become my least selected map.
 
DirtInUrEye said:
I dunno, I think Space Port is a bit too lacking on POIs and other interesting structures/scenery. I thought it was good at first, but at this point it has become my least selected map.
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It's my most played map out of those 4.

I think we have to give the Dev's credit where its due. They are all great in some way. Everyone seems to have a different favourite.
 
DirtInUrEye said:
I dunno, I think Space Port is a bit too lacking on POIs and other interesting structures/scenery. I thought it was good at first, but at this point it has become my least selected map.
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Spaceport is definitely the worst of the outdoor maps, but it has grown on me.

Don't even get me started on container storage. Probably the worst red loot POI in the game. Shit shouldn't even be yellow.
 
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Men_in_Boxes said:
What don't you like about it?
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The loot POIs overall are pretty bad. You have Container Storage, which without a key is one very below average breach room, but for some people is a complete death trap of a place to visit. In fact, many of the POIs seem to be dependent on having a key to get the max value out of, which I'm not a fan of.

The map itself is kind a big open prison yard, with tons of high spots to encourage sniping. Again, it's not a bad map, I quite enjoy it. It's just not as dynamic feeling as the others.
 
My rankings of the maps from Best to Worst:

1) Dam Battlegrounds
2) Blue Gate
3) Buried City
4) Space Port
5) Stella Montis

The first four are actually pretty close, but I hate Stella Montis.
I play mostly trios and duos with rare solos.
 
Departure building is probably the best loot spot on spaceport due to how many little desks and drawers there are to loot. Have extracted with bag full of goodies many times from there.
 
The feedback you get from landing shots via the particle effects, the sounds, the herk jerk of the drone and splintered armor chunking off is just another thing this game is doing best in class. The ARC Raiders game genre is actually Emergent Spielberg. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because these were the guys behind Battlefield moments, but damned if almost every round isn't some crazy memorable chaos. The vast majority of my rounds would pass as single player gameplay if you watched a video of it with no HUD or knowledge of the game. I'm seriously sliding under the fucking door like my name is Geordi LaForge in half my games. Cinematic AF. 100% This is the closest anyone has come to a procedurally generated SP TPS that didn't suck. They just crowd sourced the AI for the raiders because the human element of randomness. I've never seen more completely random people role play at such a high rate in a player base this big. Maybe their matchmaking is just really good at matching me with like minded players.


I've found use for the gun that looks like a Super Soaker. Upgrade it to level 3 and it's a decent battle rifle for early game stuff. Zero stakes if you lose it since it's so cheap to craft and upgrade. I mostly just farm with no real aim. Sometimes I'll get experimental and stuff a load out full of smoke bombs, flares and firecrackers just to see what I can stir up. The distractions you can create in this game are the most effective I know of. Many raids I'm in and out in less than 5 minutes after I fill my bag if I pass by an extract locale.
 
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simpatico said:
This is the closest anyone has come to a procedurally generated SP TPS that didn't suck. They just crowd sourced the AI for the raiders because the human element of randomness.
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Most gamers seem to get less interested in multiplayer as they get older, but it's been the opposite for me thanks to games like this. My gaming time used to be overwhelmingly singleplayer and now it's the other way around. Nothing beats the rush I get from playing with and against real people in games like Tarkov and Arma and most recently Arc. It's these dynamic and tense large-scale sandbox experiences that call to me these days, not sweaty small team esports stuff.
 
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CowboyLou said:
Most gamers seem to get less interested in multiplayer as they get older, but it's been the opposite for me thanks to games like this. My gaming time used to be overwhelmingly singleplayer and now it's the other way around. Nothing beats the rush I get from playing with and against real people in games like Tarkov and Arma and most recently Arc. It's these dynamic and tense large-scale sandbox experiences that call to me these days, not sweaty small team esports stuff.
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For me ARC has the perfect amount. Just enough to keep you on your toes and not running around the map on autopilot with your attention split. For me, that's perfect. The thread of the rat being there is better than getting a rat every game. Eventually that would tap me out just because I need a better relaxation to sweat balance.
 
clarky said:
Quick question. How come you reply to people without using the reply function? Easy to miss a conversation if i don't know your talking to me (or anyone else for that matter).
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Oh sorry, never really thought about it to be honest. I'll think on and quote you in next time.

I've been posting on a different forum more prolifically since like 2005 and it's just an old replying habit from there I suppose.
 
DirtInUrEye said:
Oh sorry, never really thought about it to be honest. I'll think on and quote you in next time.

I've been posting on a different forum more prolifically since like 2005 and it's just an old replying habit from there I suppose.
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No worries, just i miss your reply sometimes and you might think im being rude.

All good, whatever way suits obviously.
 
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Luipadre said:
kinda insane how many of these issues this game has tbh
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I've been done by the wall exploit a few times and a handful of cheaters. Nothing major tbh.

SBMM protects you for the most part as an average player as cheaters end up in the same top 10% of lobbies.
 
After about 50 hours in the game I've only been killed by another player maybe 4-5 times. Most people have been pretty cool and this game really shines when someone swoops in to save your ass from Arcs or a Rat. Glad i went with this game instead of Battlefield 6.
 
Time for me to jump off the game.
Playing it last night and I couldn't have been more bored going though the games motions.
Absolutely incredible game and the devs deserve the praise but it's just not for me anymore.
 
Forth said:
Time for me to jump off the game.
Playing it last night and I couldn't have been more bored going though the games motions.
Absolutely incredible game and the devs deserve the praise but it's just not for me anymore.
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Catch you in the Marathon OT no doubt :messenger_sunglasses:
 
Forth said:
Time for me to jump off the game.
Playing it last night and I couldn't have been more bored going though the games motions.
Absolutely incredible game and the devs deserve the praise but it's just not for me anymore.
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Im taking a long break too. I have no desire to play it currently and im getting way more hyped for marathon.
 
Just hit level 75 and devestated to find out there is a level cap. I have no interest in doing an expedition so might put the game down until an update with some new quests or a new deck to grind. I do still need a bunch of blueprints so can still dip in.
 
Bought the game cause I kept seeing people saying positive things. Pleasently surprised at how much fun I'm having with it. I bounced off Tarkov when friends tried to rope me in, but Arc really clicked for me.
 


Give us a single unique item where we can only get it if we wipe, or kill a player who has it after they wipe. Then the next season it'll slowly get more rare as they get left on the maps.
 
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I think the only part that was excessive was the 5 million for the skill points and that's because they told us so late and it goes against being able to use your shit which is what everyone was doing. I did get back to 4.4 million but it was a boring grind in Stella Montis.

I've finished the next expedition already and have 2.6 million in the bank just by collecting valuables along the way. Will be a lot easier this time for sure.
 
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dreamstation said:
It doesn't even take multiple games to sway the matchmaking. You can literally run maps as friendly as fuck, next map you defend yourself against a bunch of cunts and all of a sudden you're in the thick of it. Had this happen to my squad tonight. Peaceful as fuck, get jumped by a bunch of dogs while doing a trial, kill them and extract. Next couple runs on blue gate it's world war 3 with grubs everywhere. I really don't think their matchmaking algorithm is all that complex to be honest. They aren't going to come out and explain it either because they know it's not and they don't want people to know how it works.
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I've done some testing in solo, and this is the way it seems to work for me:

Run free loadout in solos and simply do not shoot at any other players, not even in self defense. After a half dozen runs or so it feels like I get put in games with 98% PvE players, I almost never get shot at or ganked or nothing.

Now, if you play only one or two matches where you go on a player killing spree, then the matchmaking seems to instantly put you in with the pure PvP players and its shoot on sight across the board.

After this, it again seems to take about a half dozen runs to get back to pure PvE. After a couple passive only matches you'll feel the games become a mix of PvE and PvP players, but after 6-8 matches its pure PvE again.


That seems like how it works to me.
 
Men_in_Boxes said:
I tried restarting the game twice and I couldn't get the song to play again.

I have brain tumor. Probably going to die last week February.
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Sometimes it depends on what you did the round before. I know when you extract with someone not from your team you get the "teamup song" which is the best one!
 
Alright. More hyper conservative rounds under my belt. I think I'm firmly in the Carebear matchmaking which suits me fine at this point. Finding out some of those red outline buildings are fucking tough even without the human threat. Working on building my benches until I can comfortably carry an Arpeggio and Fiero well equipped and upgraded. Had success a couple times calling a lift and running to loot/hide in medium orbit to it. Grab a couple extra pieces of loot and by the time I'm done the door is wide open and I can barrel in with reckless abandon. Did loot my first arpeggio and took it to the practice range. My favorite kind of battle rifle, so now I have a definite target of gathering the resources required to manufacture it at a small scale.

Learning to use that safe slot leveled up my brain on how to play it a little bit looser, which speeds up the process. Rolling with a Kettle III with a bunch of low level attachments and a Fiero III with no attachments because I don't see how they can benefit a one-shot rifle. Basically the Kettle is my EDC plinker and if robots are chasing me I'll hide in a shack with the Fiero drawn. I have pulled 2 pink attachments. Tested them out in the practice range the difference ain't much.

Spending all my money expanding storage because after I got my head around the economy of the game I shudder to think how many rare items I've broken down for metal parts...
 
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Okay my friend sort of redeemed themself last night, we started fighting a team in stella montis and then a 3rd party came in and in the confusion they thought the 2nd party was attacking them so they started fighting.

My friend and I had to hide to heal up, and the 3rd party killed the 2nd party, started talking aaaall this mad shit. Another group showed up going "whoaa what happened" and everyone was all "friendly friendly, we just killed these rats!" And then my friend walks out of a closet going "whoa what happened here, I just spawned in" 😂🤣😂 and they fuckin believed him and let him loot the dead bodies cause he said he just spawned in hahahahaha
 
DirtInUrEye said:
Out of interest did any of you two do the expedition?
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Yes I did the expedition but after completing the missions again, getting up to the next expedition and logging in to do more dailies and getting up to level 65 I just have no interest in playing anymore.
It happened so suddenly but I just logged off and have zero motivation to return to it again so I deleted Arc Raiders.
 
Am I missing something on the Rattler? On paper it should trounce the Kettle, but out there in the shit they seem to do the same damage to ARC, but one has more expensive ammo and a shitty reload. Do I have to get one to IV before it really opens up or just a shit gun?
 
simpatico said:
Am I missing something on the Rattler? On paper it should trounce the Kettle, but out there in the shit they seem to do the same damage to ARC, but one has more expensive ammo and a shitty reload. Do I have to get one to IV before it really opens up or just a shit gun?
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It used to be even worse with only 10 rounds at level one. Personally I think it's good at three and great at four. It's not good at longer ranges and yes, the reload does suck.
 
Fuck the robots that patrol the apex testing facility. Last time I got that spawn I took the looooong way around west and had a little adventure. Not trying to walk into that hornet's nest again. First time I tried doing a run with my shiny new blue kit it spawned me in Caelid for the first time with a full-on aerial patrol already looking for someone. I'd never even extracted from up there. But very carefully I made it to the extraction. Didn't do one iota of extra looting. Got a few little things along the way, but best of all I got to keep my kit.
 
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