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cormack12
Gold Member
Expedition, both in story and gameplay.
Octopath is good and so is Metaphor, but you settle into the same familiar combat patterns etc. Expedition is a complete package and also has some interesting combat augments and mechanics that keep it more interesting and for longer (imo)
Octopath is good and so is Metaphor, but you settle into the same familiar combat patterns etc. Expedition is a complete package and also has some interesting combat augments and mechanics that keep it more interesting and for longer (imo)
SantaC
Member
How is Metaphor compared to the Persona games?
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
I'm pretty sure you already know the answer and what most ppl will vote. The other choices are mid.
cormack12
Gold Member
I preferred the Metaphor dungeons, and I preferred the supporting cast. In contrast, I find Persona more young anime - in tone and style just to contextualise it.
Others may feel differently though.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Far worse than Persona 5 Royal in everything. If P5R is a 9/10 then Metaphor is a 6 in comparison. Cool UI tho.
SantaC
Member
that's strange because I heard it was a very good game with 90+ in metacritic. Doesnt like a 6 to me.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
It has a demo. Try it. If you like it, cool, tho I did buy it based on the demo, and the first few hours were really great, but at about half way in it became a generic predictable slog and I just could not relate to its boring political "mature" story. If you value your purchases based off Metacritic, then sure go ahead. Just remember, those are opinions, just like mine. No one can ever truly tell you what you will or wont enjoy.
Bonfires Down
Member
I played the Metaphor demo and I pretty much didn't like anything about it. But somehow I keep feeling like I want to buy and play it. I think it just has an intriguing world. Yes, to some extent it is somewhat of a generic fantasy world, but there are also some really weird, out there stuff at play.
Rocinante618
Member
Metaphor.
- unique artstyle
- fast turn based combat, animation cancelling, smooth and quick, feels great, lower level enemies can be one-hit in open world, no need to go turn based (one of the best things imo)
- amazing music, love the fusion of monk chants and classical track remixes
- really cool world building, novel story and idea. What if you were isekai-ed to a fantasy land where everyone is a non-human and thus you're subjected to racism?
- Racism, politics and similar heavier stuff is a discussion rather than a forceful rant (that is seen in many Western approaches)
- the "archetypes" are basically Personas lol
- much relaxed than Persona 5 for deadlines,
- I like the loop, gameplay and characters, really cool characters (art)
Negatives: runs ass in PC ( use Vulkan ), AA is kinda bad, (subjective) there's still the usual JRPGs shenanigans and Atlus social VN stuff.
- unique artstyle
- fast turn based combat, animation cancelling, smooth and quick, feels great, lower level enemies can be one-hit in open world, no need to go turn based (one of the best things imo)
- amazing music, love the fusion of monk chants and classical track remixes
- really cool world building, novel story and idea. What if you were isekai-ed to a fantasy land where everyone is a non-human and thus you're subjected to racism?
- Racism, politics and similar heavier stuff is a discussion rather than a forceful rant (that is seen in many Western approaches)
- the "archetypes" are basically Personas lol
- much relaxed than Persona 5 for deadlines,
- I like the loop, gameplay and characters, really cool characters (art)
Negatives: runs ass in PC ( use Vulkan ), AA is kinda bad, (subjective) there's still the usual JRPGs shenanigans and Atlus social VN stuff.
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Sakura
Member
It's worse than the Persona games, but better than the other games on that list.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I'd go for either Metaphor or Trails, which I haven't played but gets a lot of positive feedback from gaffers I trust in the matter.
I haven't played Octopath 0 and didn't really like E33.
I haven't played Octopath 0 and didn't really like E33.
I'd say it's better in some areas, like writting and characters, while being worse in others, like dungeon design and overall polish and balance.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
E33 if you want an excellent story with great writing. ~30 hours with no filler. I found the battle system to be very fun with how you can dodge/parry literally any attack once you learn the timing. Tons of combinations of skills/passives/equipment that can make you an OP badass.
Metaphor if you just really love the Persona formula and you need something that's similar but not quite as good. It has a cool story and premise but it just drags on forever and loses steam. By the 60 hour mark I started skipping most of the dialog except for the key scenes because it just goes on and on. I still thought it was a good game but nowhere near E33 for me.
Trails in the Sky remake: try the demo. I tried 3 times but couldn't even make it 15 minutes. Retarded dialog, squeaky voiced animu characters, characters who yap endlessly and make every dialog scene like 3x as long as it should be. I can't do this shit anymore. Some people absolutely eat this stuff up though, I guess.
Metaphor if you just really love the Persona formula and you need something that's similar but not quite as good. It has a cool story and premise but it just drags on forever and loses steam. By the 60 hour mark I started skipping most of the dialog except for the key scenes because it just goes on and on. I still thought it was a good game but nowhere near E33 for me.
Trails in the Sky remake: try the demo. I tried 3 times but couldn't even make it 15 minutes. Retarded dialog, squeaky voiced animu characters, characters who yap endlessly and make every dialog scene like 3x as long as it should be. I can't do this shit anymore. Some people absolutely eat this stuff up though, I guess.
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Sakura
Member
It just felt like they copied too much of Persona while also trying to make the game seem "not Persona". Things like the calendar system and time slots per day make sense in a game like Persona because it was designed around that, whereas in Metaphor it feels like they copied it over without putting much thought into it.
It's not a bad game or anything though, and there were other things I liked about it.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I agree. When I mentioned "polish and balance" I was thiking how rushed the whole calendar system felt in comparison with the Persona games, and how easy it is to do everything when in the Persona games I never managed to do that at least on the first try. Game must have gone through a lot of reiterations and I can imagine the decision of including the Persona-like elements into the game was taken late into development.
I still enjoyed the game quite a lot but yeah, the are better JRPGs out there.
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Expedition 33 imo
mèx
Member
If you like to parry/dodge, play Expedition 33, that's the only good part about the game, together with the soundtrack. The story starts strong but in the long run it's a complete disappointment, especially in the later parts. The character interactions are subpar, they are basically a joke. Most characters are completely irrelevant.
Trails in the Sky 1st has great character interactions, the story is extremely slow burn but it builds up really well, and it delivers by the end. This is the first part of a complete story though, you will need to play Trails in the Sky 2nd too (coming out later this year). The turn-based combat system is fun, the field battle system is a bit too simple compared to the later entries.
I enjoyed Metaphor, but the story goes in a strange direction. Unfortunately the last act is rushed, and the villain does not live up to his introduction, he was a bit squandered. The Persona-style calendar system was completely unneeded. I found the combat system to be engaging from start to end personally.
I didn't play Octopath 0, just the first one. I didn't like the story structure of the original, but they changed that for 0 so it might be better.
Trails in the Sky 1st has great character interactions, the story is extremely slow burn but it builds up really well, and it delivers by the end. This is the first part of a complete story though, you will need to play Trails in the Sky 2nd too (coming out later this year). The turn-based combat system is fun, the field battle system is a bit too simple compared to the later entries.
I enjoyed Metaphor, but the story goes in a strange direction. Unfortunately the last act is rushed, and the villain does not live up to his introduction, he was a bit squandered. The Persona-style calendar system was completely unneeded. I found the combat system to be engaging from start to end personally.
I didn't play Octopath 0, just the first one. I didn't like the story structure of the original, but they changed that for 0 so it might be better.
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DarkShadowXI
Gold Member
My buddy doesn't play long JRPGs and he just put 120 hours into Octopath 0. He loved the story and said the game is very addicting.
You honestly can't go wrong with any of those. I've played about 10 hours for all of them and they all have their pros and cons.
I'll choose E33. I loved my limited time with it and plan to return to it this year to beat it. The soundtrack is amazing. Actually, all of these games have amazing soundtracks!
Come join us over at "12 games in 12 months", so you can beat them all this year! It's already motivated me to beat DQ1 Remastered
You honestly can't go wrong with any of those. I've played about 10 hours for all of them and they all have their pros and cons.
I'll choose E33. I loved my limited time with it and plan to return to it this year to beat it. The soundtrack is amazing. Actually, all of these games have amazing soundtracks!
Come join us over at "12 games in 12 months", so you can beat them all this year! It's already motivated me to beat DQ1 Remastered
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SantaC
Member
God visions of mana was such a slogMy buddy doesn't play long JRPGs and he just put 120 hours into Octopath 0. He loved the story and said the game is very addicting.
You honestly can't go wrong with any of those. I've played about 10 hours for all of them and they all have their pros and cons.
I'll choose E33. I loved my limited time with it and plan to return to it this year to beat it. The soundtrack is amazing. Actually, all of these games have amazing soundtracks!
Come join us over at "12 games in 12 months", so you can beat them all this year! It's already motivated me to beat DQ1 Remastered
DarkShadowXI
Gold Member
Yeah man lol
I put a handful of hours into it, but wouldn't mind finishing it eventually. I am in….no rush at all!
KanKamAndNob
Member
I only played Expedited Shipping for 33 Packages and Metaphor. Might get around to Octopath though. If I may suggest some others:
For more tradiotional/turn based RPGs in order of my favorites:
For more tradiotional/turn based RPGs in order of my favorites:
- Divinity: Original Sin 2
- Divinity: Original Sin
- Rogue Trader
- Unicorn Overlord
- ShadowRun Trilogy
- Chained Echoes
- Sea of Stars
- Trials of Mana
- Greedfall
- Visions of Mana
- The first Death End Re Quest (not the sequel)
- The Diofield Chronicle
- The first Blue Reflection game (sequel is okay, but not strongly recommended)
- Lies of P
- Salt and Sanctuary
- Stellar Blade
- The Surge (sequel straight up sucked)
- Remnant: From the Ashes (haven't played the sequel yet)
- Wuchang: Fallen Feathers
- Lords of the Fallen 2023 (post patches and updates)
- AI Limit
- The First Berserker Khazan
- Darksiders 3
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