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[Mr Moose]

Learning from Nintendo.

Vita* but in reverse.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

This thread is funny, it's part people wanting to buy it, part people crying that the other people are wrong to want it.

Not me, I'm just saying that I'm happy with my purchase. I could give a shit if people want to buy one or not. But the demand is clearly there and some people seem to not like it.

 

[poodaddy]

Do you think all 6 million Portal owners are just stupid?

 

[damidu]

Learning from Nintendo.

i wish nintendo learns from nintendo,
they just released shittiest lcd they could get theit hands on

 

[Loomy]

the overpriced product becomes even more expensive... I mean... sure lol, there's probably people who will buy it for god knows what reason

Really? lol

We need the Portal Glasses

Or - and hear me out here, because this is going to sound wild - a Portal game!

 

[videogamedude]

playstation fans are hilarious...

watch them shit on Switch2 thread after thread, ruining any discussion for the forum... the gpu sucks, the cpu is busted, the screen blah blah


whats that?.., portal doesn't have local gaming hardware at all? take my money!!!

 

[mckmas8808]

More like $299.


The reason why MS didn't create an "Xbox Portal" is because every single windows, Android, Linux, iOS, ipadOS device with a screen or browser acts as the Xbox Portal for both xCloud and Remote Play. That said, the Logitech G Cloud was their partnership for a streaming handheld.

Are you not aware that xCloud lets you Buy and Stream games?

Stream your own game | Xbox Cloud Gaming on  Xbox.com

www.xbox.com

xCloud shares everything including licensing with the Consoles, so you can buy Helldivers 2 and stream via xcloud to any device, or buy a console and play it there or Remote Play it.

This is more the reason why MS should have made their own Xbox Portal. Why allow Logitech to make the G Cloud? See......this is the issue with Microsoft imo. They throw so much stuff at the wall just to see what sticks, that they can never be focused enough to do the targeted thing to achieve a specific goal.

 

[LordBritish]

Nice, ill get a used portal for $79

 

[Skifi28]

playstation fans are hilarious...

watch them shit on Switch2 thread after thread, ruining any discussion for the forum... the gpu sucks, the cpu is busted, the screen blah blah


whats that?.., portal doesn't have local gaming hardware at all? take my money!!!

Complaining about the Switch 2 screen and showing interest in buying an OLED sounds consistent. The portal also uses the PS5's (or pro's) hardware so again, if somebody is not happy with all the 30fps switch games playing them at 60 on portal also sounds consistent. You're here trying to do what you are complaining others do in different threads.

 

[diffusionx]

Or do you seem to think all 6 million Portal owners are just stupid?

yes I do

 

[videogamedude]

Complaining about the Switch 2 screen and showing interest in buying an OLED sounds consistent. The portal also uses the PS5's (or pro's) hardware so again, if somebody is not happy with all the 30fps switch games playing them at 60 on portal also sounds consistent. You're here trying to do what you are complaining others do in different threads.

i'm going to complain about the one shimmery pixel in ff7 on s2, then turn around and stream it to a currently non-oled screen

but i can buy a new oled to stream it to over wifi, and that one pixel is gonna be rendered so much better

 

[Baemono]

yes I do

Why « stupid » in this case ?

 

[DeepEnigma]

the overpriced product becomes even more expensive... I mean... sure lol, there's probably people who will buy it for god knows what reason

Overpriced?

It's actually pretty cheap for what it is. Do I own one? No. But it's really not expensive in comparison.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I'd be mad if I played my portal more.

I need to stop buying things at launch these days. The Switch 2 will be the last console I buy at launch. I'll wait for the PS6 Pro or whatever mid gen refresh they do.

 

[Skifi28]

i'm going to complain about the one shimmery pixel in ff7 on s2, then turn around and stream it to a currently non-oled screen

but i can buy a new oled to stream it to over wifi, and that one pixel is gonna be rendered so much better

The thread is about the OLED version and there are already posts of people that weren't interested before and are now. I think you are having an imaginary argument with someone from a different thread as none of the things you are complaining about have been said here. You may want to go to said thread and start replying to the specific people that offended you instead of generalising and trying to stir things up here, which you apparently also don't like when others do it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

GAF->Internet->GAF:

Push Square: PS Portal OLED coming this year

I like how they link to a reddit post that links to Gaf.

Gaf > Internet > Reddit > Internet > Gaf

 

[Topher]

playstation fans are hilarious...

watch them shit on Switch2 thread after thread, ruining any discussion for the forum... the gpu sucks, the cpu is busted, the screen blah blah


whats that?.., portal doesn't have local gaming hardware at all? take my money!!!

Well your generalization is a bit absurd. If you want to reply to someone who has shit on Switch 2 and call them out for whatever then have at it, but otherwise you are no different than the people you are complaining about.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

This is a test bed for their handheld coming in 2027/2028. A true handheld like Switch.

 

[videogamedude]

Well your generalization is a bit absurd. If you want to reply to someone who has shit on Switch 2 and call them out for whatever then have at it, but otherwise you are no different than the people you are complaining about.

i'm just pointing out buying a portal then portal oled is a bit absurd after complaining about the cost of a switch2

if you aren't one of those people, i'm not sure why you are triggered

 

[videogamedude]

The thread is about the OLED version and there are already posts of people that weren't interested before and are now. I think you are having an imaginary argument with someone from a different thread as none of the things you are complaining about have been said here. You may want to go to said thread and start replying to the specific people that offended you instead of generalising and trying to stir things up here, which you apparently also don't like when others do it.

I'm just saying, why not buy a real handheld... there are lots of brands.

 

[Topher]

i'm just pointing out buying a portal then portal oled is a bit absurd after complaining about the cost of a switch2

if you aren't one of those people, i'm not sure why you are triggered

And you shouldn't be triggered by people shitting on Switch 2 when you are doing the exact same thing here. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Fake]

playstation fans are hilarious...

watch them shit on Switch2 thread after thread, ruining any discussion for the forum... the gpu sucks, the cpu is busted, the screen blah blah


whats that?.., portal doesn't have local gaming hardware at all? take my money!!!

Is kinda bizzare. I'm foward for proper PSvita sucessor with OLED screen, using my Playstation library to native PS1/PS2/PS4/PS5 games, but no no no "Im A hAtER".

Steam Deck and NS2 showing how native hardware is done and we have fanboys glorifying this streaming device. They gonna end up doing the Xbox Cloud cross hands moviment.

 

[dgproject]

Vita is life, vita will forever be undead.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm just saying, why not buy a real handheld... there are lots of brands.

Maybe people want the exact performance and graphics of the big machine without as much compromises for their library. It's 1/2 to 1/3 to 1/4 or even less than most of that weaker native hardware in a very light and much more comfortable form factor.

It's even cheaper than most "pro" controllers.

 

[videogamedude]

Maybe people want the exact performance and graphics of the big machine without as much compromises for their library. It's 1/2 to 1/3 to 1/4 or even less than most of that weaker native hardware in a very light and much more comfortable form factor.

It's even cheaper than most "pro" controllers.

streaming isn't a compromise now?

yikes

 

[DeepEnigma]

streaming isn't a compromise now?

yiked

Read

without as much compromises for their library.

 

[Skifi28]

watch them shit on Switch2 thread after thread, ruining any discussion for the forum...

"It's only cool when I do it"

 

[mckmas8808]

yes I do

That hate within is strong, my friend.

 

[Shifty1897]

I have nothing against the Portal, if your PS5 is wired and your Internet and WiFi are top of the line, it's a great experience. I just don't have enough of a use case for it and was able to sell it for a profit when I got it at launch. An OLED model is appealing but I really only need one handheld and for me that's the Switch 2.

 

[videogamedude]

I have nothing against the Portal, if your PS5 is wired and your Internet and WiFi are top of the line, it's a great experience. I just don't have enough of a use case for it and was able to sell it for a profit when I got it at launch. An OLED model is appealing but I really only need one handheld and for me that's the Switch 2.

personally, i often find myself without a wifi connection when playing a handheld, so purchasing one that requires me to be tethered to a connection is a huge waste of money

 

[Brucey]

That hate within is strong, my friend.

Ultimately one has to use a Portal to understand its appeal. Not sure why people are clamoring for faster wifi when the regular unit isn't limited by wifi speeds. Mine works fine on 4g Hotspot off my phone, on the rare occasion I leave the house.

 

[Topher]

I have nothing against the Portal, if your PS5 is wired and your Internet and WiFi are top of the line, it's a great experience. I just don't have enough of a use case for it and was able to sell it for a profit when I got it at launch. An OLED model is appealing but I really only need one handheld and for me that's the Switch 2.

Portal definitely has more specific use cases than other handhelds. For folks who only game on PlayStation and want a remote option rather than hogging the TV, then it makes sense, especially at the price point. Think we have to keep in mind that this thing is an accessory, not a dedicated l platform. I tried Portal and returned it as, like you, I have other options, but for PlayStation centric gamers, I can see there is a lot here to like.

 

[Three]

This actually makes the new handheld sharing an OLED screen more likely. What are the chances they secured a deal for OLED supply and will use the bulk order for Portal too?

 

[Tobimacoss]

And? All those are still options and yet a lot of folks have chosen the Portal over them. I use the Razer Kishi/tablet option myself, but I don't see why options for directly from Sony is a bad thing, especially considering the price is a lot lower than what I paid.

All those are options only for PS Remote Play, they aren't options for PS+ Premium PS5 streaming. Options are great, but Sony isn't providing an option for Cloud Gamers other than being forced to buy a $199 device that is ONLY limited to Sony's streaming service.

Like I said, PS Portal can do something no other handheld on market can do, which is Dualsense integration. So it's good to have that option for those who want it. But at the same time Sony is gating Cloud Gaming behind the PS5 Console and Portal devices. It is very much an Apple like tactic to limit service to their own ecosystem without having to compete properly in Cloud.

The thing with Cloud only or mostly Cloud users (like me), is that they're willing to use different services and alternate between them like switching between Netflix or Disney+ every few months. And don't want to be forced to buy hardware that only works with one streaming service. Imagine if Apple TV+ only worked with Apple TV 4k devices. Even Apple realized it's stupid to try to gatekeep streaming services.

This is more the reason why MS should have made their own Xbox Portal. Why allow Logitech to make the G Cloud? See......this is the issue with Microsoft imo. They throw so much stuff at the wall just to see what sticks, that they can never be focused enough to do the targeted thing to achieve a specific goal.

What do you mean allow Logitech...the G Cloud was a partnership between Logitech, Tencent, Nvidia GFN, they would've made the device regardless. MS got on board the partnership to ensure Xbox certified controls and to make sure the xCloud experience was good on the device. Then they marketed the G Cloud as the recommended streaming handheld device for ALL Cloud users and Cloud Gaming services.

There's pics of Phil Spencer and Hideo Kojima using the G Cloud. But the internals and screen of that device are outdated now, just like the Portal.

MS did consider making their own streaming TV box, but they couldn't get the price point cheap enough below $99 with controller bundle and didn't have a proper Thin OS client, they didn't want to use Android due to Google Playstore restrictions. So they simply partnered up with Amazon to get xCloud on FireTV Stick 4k and Cube devices.

MS prefers to do partnerships for hardware whenever possible. Their scope for Cloud Gaming is much bigger than Sony, so they don't want to do streaming only hardware that would provide a different experience than all other devices. They use the same PWA web app on all devices now for both Remote Play and Cloud Gaming.

The Asus ROG Xbox Ally is basically the official Xbox equivalent to the Portal now. $440 open box item at Best Buy.

 

[reinking]

Portal does offer something other streaming handhelds can not, which is the Dualsense integration. But the main reason for its existence IMO is to gate the Cloud Gaming. It's why Sony hasn't expanded PS5 streaming to other devices.

Am I misunderstanding your point? You can stream to other devices.

edit-NM. I see you are specifying PS5 games. That will come when Sony feels it will no longer be a threat to their primary business, which is consoles. Having a device like the Portal is exhibit A that consoles are still their primary focus.

 

[Three]

This is more the reason why MS should have made their own Xbox Portal. Why allow Logitech to make the G Cloud? See......this is the issue with Microsoft imo. They throw so much stuff at the wall just to see what sticks, that they can never be focused enough to do the targeted thing to achieve a specific goal.

MS never get a good user experience that way either. In the latest fuck up they pushed a windows 11 update that broke Xbox Ally features.

 

[kaizenkko]

I just want a dedicated PS portable, one who runs native games.

I hope they delay the PS6 and release this portable instead.

 

[Topher]

All those are options only for PS Remote Play, they aren't options for PS+ Premium PS5 streaming. Options are great, but Sony isn't providing an option for Cloud Gamers other than being forced to buy a $199 device that is ONLY limited to Sony's streaming service.

Like I said, PS Portal can do something no other handheld on market can do, which is Dualsense integration. So it's good to have that option for those who want it. But at the same time Sony is gating Cloud Gaming behind the PS5 Console and Portal devices. It is very much an Apple like tactic to limit service to their own ecosystem without having to compete properly in Cloud.

The thing with Cloud only or mostly Cloud users (like me), is that they're willing to use different services and alternate between them like switching between Netflix or Disney+ every few months. And don't want to be forced to buy hardware that only works with one streaming service. Imagine if Apple TV+ only worked with Apple TV 4k devices. Even Apple realized it's stupid to try to gatekeep streaming services.

As I just said, Portal has a more specific use case. Yeah....if you want a device that streams everything then Portal ain't it. If all you game on is PlayStation then it is a valid option. And rolling out services to many devices is always done in stages so we very well may see PS+ Premium coming to the PS remote app in the future, but this isn't about PS+. Clearly there is a market for Portal and it isn't necessarily tied to cloud streaming since Portal was selling well long before it had that capability.

 

[Esppiral]

The scam continues

 

[LavitzSlambert]

I'd be shocked if this wasn't a move to increase MSRP of the product. $150 on sale for a Portal is fine, now that you can stream cloud games directly without a PS5, but I don't see a compelling reason to buy this for more than $200. Especially not relatively close to a portable PS6.

 

[Esppiral]

For a hundred bucks you get a real handheld and bit a controller attached to a screen....

 

[vodka-bull]

personally, i often find myself without a wifi connection when playing a handheld, so purchasing one that requires me to be tethered to a connection is a huge waste of money

You don't carry your smartphone around with you?

 

[mitch1971]

the overpriced product becomes even more expensive... I mean... sure lol, there's probably people who will buy it for god knows what reason

If you are struggling...the answer is OLED.

 

[mckmas8808]

All those are options only for PS Remote Play, they aren't options for PS+ Premium PS5 streaming. Options are great, but Sony isn't providing an option for Cloud Gamers other than being forced to buy a $199 device that is ONLY limited to Sony's streaming service.

Like I said, PS Portal can do something no other handheld on market can do, which is Dualsense integration. So it's good to have that option for those who want it. But at the same time Sony is gating Cloud Gaming behind the PS5 Console and Portal devices. It is very much an Apple like tactic to limit service to their own ecosystem without having to compete properly in Cloud.

The thing with Cloud only or mostly Cloud users (like me), is that they're willing to use different services and alternate between them like switching between Netflix or Disney+ every few months. And don't want to be forced to buy hardware that only works with one streaming service. Imagine if Apple TV+ only worked with Apple TV 4k devices. Even Apple realized it's stupid to try to gatekeep streaming services.

What do you mean allow Logitech...the G Cloud was a partnership between Logitech, Tencent, Nvidia GFN, they would've made the device regardless. MS got on board the partnership to ensure Xbox certified controls and to make sure the xCloud experience was good on the device. Then they marketed the G Cloud as the recommended streaming handheld device for ALL Cloud users and Cloud Gaming services.

There's pics of Phil Spencer and Hideo Kojima using the G Cloud. But the internals and screen of that device are outdated now, just like the Portal.

MS did consider making their own streaming TV box, but they couldn't get the price point cheap enough below $99 with controller bundle and didn't have a proper Thin OS client, they didn't want to use Android due to Google Playstore restrictions. So they simply partnered up with Amazon to get xCloud on FireTV Stick 4k and Cube devices.

MS prefers to do partnerships for hardware whenever possible. Their scope for Cloud Gaming is much bigger than Sony, so they don't want to do streaming only hardware that would provide a different experience than all other devices. They use the same PWA web app on all devices now for both Remote Play and Cloud Gaming.

The Asus ROG Xbox Ally is basically the official Xbox equivalent to the Portal now. $440 open box item at Best Buy.

The bolded is the problem with Microsoft though. They can't stay out of their own way. You've sooooo crystal clearly explain why and how Microsoft screws up Xbox generation after generation.

 

[Lokaum D+]

the overpriced product becomes even more expensive... I mean... sure lol, there's probably people who will buy it for god knows what reason

this is a Portal thread, not a Switch thread.

 

[reinking]

All those are options only for PS Remote Play, they aren't options for PS+ Premium PS5 streaming. Options are great, but Sony isn't providing an option for Cloud Gamers other than being forced to buy a $199 device that is ONLY limited to Sony's streaming service.

Like I said, PS Portal can do something no other handheld on market can do, which is Dualsense integration. So it's good to have that option for those who want it. But at the same time Sony is gating Cloud Gaming behind the PS5 Console and Portal devices. It is very much an Apple like tactic to limit service to their own ecosystem without having to compete properly in Cloud.

It's as if they are a console company first and provide options to their target market.