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New Epstein Emails: Elon Musk Repeatedly Asked To Visit Epstein Island

Grildon Tundy said:
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It's important to note that people really need to do their own research, this image is a shop. The original post in the OP as well, to my understanding, are both fake and not anywhere in the released files. I'm not defending Musk, however, because there is ONE email with him trying to discuss a meeting with Epstein on the island that is real (I haven't seen it posted yet in this thread but all it says is "Elon was asking about coming to your island" which sounds more ambiguous) but the ones like this are completely fake. Search it for yourself:

Also, the fact that people seriously think 13-year old thing with Trump is automatically true because it's in the released files is pretty stupid, it's an anonymous tip filed in 2016 (during election season) to the FBI that had zero accompanying evidence and the FBI themselves never investigated into. Considering the timing of the tip, it's pretty obviously there for political reasons. If anything, the Epstein email conversations that are in the files corroborate with the victim testamonies in 2019, which is that Epstein and Trump were only business partners, and Trump cut him off as soon as Epstein tried to poach Trump's estate workers. It's plausible Trump had knowledge of what was going on, but involvement has zero real proof.
 
ProtoByte said:
Hope you're somewhere beside your fainting chair. You're not making an actual point here.
It's pretty funny: As much as you guys take my posting this as an affront to the victimhood of this person (you probably don't know her name), most of the interview is her stating her opinion that Virginia Giuffre - the originator of the trafficking ring assertion that you now espouse - was no victim at all.


Well the bolded is not what we're talking about because there's no evidence for that.
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"She's really a 9000 year old dragon" ass poster.
 
Bojji said:
Money and power corrupts people, tale old as time itself.
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A lot of people with money and power also do good a lot of good in the shitty World as well

While not in a position of power I do ok in the money dept and think these people need to be taken out behind a barn and shot

Not all wealthy people want to rape 13-year-olds
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
A lot of people with money and power also do good a lot of good in the shitty World as well

While not in a position of power I do ok in the money dept and think these people need to be taken out behind a barn and shot

Not all wealthy people want to rape 13-year-olds
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I agree. There are many decent people among millionaires and billionaires (I have my doubts here...) of course.

But at the same time percentage of people doing amoral (and illegal) things is probably quite high among them, mostly because they can get away with most of the stuff thanks to money and connections. I doubt it changes many good people into bad people, it mostly just allows bad people to be themselves (they wouldn't risk many of that stuff with no money).
 
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GudOlRub said:
My only question is why? Why would someone even try to argue this? What does he have to gain with it?
Unless he's intentionally trolling, in which case I kneel, managed to bait me and a bunch of others into this lunacy of an argument :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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Against my better judgement, I will actually explain.

I don't think it's healthy for large swaths of the population or for a person to believe in Theories of Everything to explain how the world works - that the "elite class" is just a universal pedo/sexual deviancy conspiracy through which power is ordered. You can see it in this thread with Punished Miku Punished Miku 's assertions that the very existence of billionaires is some kind of cosmic aberration that corrupts and condemns humanity as a whole.

This story has been terribly reported on and discussed on even more wild premises, energized by that belief in a positive feedback loop. People take kernels of truth that they collect not by primary sources but osmosis of media snippets (ie watching literal clips or surface level news night coverage), internet comments, engagement bait and outright cranks. They then fill in any remaining gaps with their own biases. You believe that Epstein didn't kill himself because Ricky Gervais said so, for example. There are people on this site who believe with 1000% certainty that Epstein was an intelligence asset, perhaps some kind of Mossad-CIA double agent working to suborn the global elite to the US or Israeli interests. Someone watches a video from some YTer that hasn't read shit saying Bill Gates had an affair with a Russian cards player, it must be a hooker.

Letting the craziness go unabated works, but it's honestly annoying how many times this story has popped back up to stir the same consternations and horror only to result in no criminal prosecutions save for Maxwell, no substantial evidence for crimes beyond what's been plead guilty to or adjudicated in that single trial. How many times does this have to boomerang before people start asking themselves common sense questions?

I also think it's hilarious that users on a site that's evolved by to turning away from hysteria around supposed "systems" or allegations with little to no evidentiary backing - that also balked and raged at facts contrary to the most maximalist spin on the bad things that do happen - engage in the exact same behaviors when applied to separate issues. Claiming to want files and information, refusing to read what's been publicly available for years, and dogpiling anyone who actually provides sources.
 
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What happened to Qanon? I feel like they should be all over this, the exact opposite of everything they have been saying is right on display here
 
ProtoByte said:
Against my better judgement, I will actually explain.

I don't think it's healthy for large swaths of the population or for a person to believe in Theories of Everything to explain how the world works - that the "elite class" is just a universal pedo/sexual deviancy conspiracy through which power is ordered. You can see it in this thread with Punished Miku Punished Miku 's assertions that the very existence of billionaires is some kind of cosmic aberration that corrupts and condemns humanity as a whole.

This story has been terribly reported on and discussed on even more wild premises, energized by that belief in a positive feedback loop. People take kernels of truth that they collect not by primary sources but osmosis of media snippets (ie watching literal clips or surface level news night coverage), internet comments, engagement bait and outright cranks. They then fill in any remaining gaps with their own biases. You believe that Epstein didn't kill himself because Ricky Gervais said so, for example. There are people on this site who believe with 1000% certainty that Epstein was an intelligence asset, perhaps some kind of Mossad-CIA double agent working to suborn the global elite to the US or Israeli interests. Someone watches a video from some YTer that hasn't read shit saying Bill Gates had an affair with a Russian cards player, it must be a hooker.

Letting the craziness go unabated works, but it's honestly annoying how many times this story has popped back up to stir the same consternations and horror only to result in no criminal prosecutions save for Maxwell, no substantial evidence for crimes beyond what's been plead guilty to or adjudicated in that single trial. How many times does this have to boomerang before people start asking themselves common sense questions?

I also think it's hilarious that a users on a site that's evolved by to turning away from hysteria around supposed "systems" or allegations with little to no evidentiary backing - that also balked at facts contrary to the most maximalist spin on the bad things that do happen - engage in the exact same behaviors when applied to separate issues. Claiming to want files and information, refusing to read what's been publicly available for years, and dogpiling anyone who actually provides sources.
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Killer8 said:
Epstein was a true gamer:

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Man, to think everything I needed to be a math prodigy and get into aerospace engineering (instead of struggling to even getting a passing grade in highschool) was for the chick from Math blaster to have massive tits and a thong

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Bojji said:
I agree. There are many decent people among millionaires and billionaires (I have my doubts here...) of course.

But at the same time percentage of people doing amoral (and illegal) things is probably quite high among them, mostly because they can get away with most of the stuff thanks to money and connections. I doubt it changes many good people into bad people, it mostly just allows bad people to be themselves (they wouldn't risk many of that stuff with no money).
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I guess its just disheartening to me that people want to lump all ultra wealthy people into this giant cesspool of child rapist demonic satanic ritualistic killers
 
There's a difference between millionaires and billionaires, imo. Like the saying goes: "What's the difference between a million and a billion? About a billion." The difference in the amount of power they wield is astronomical (or ~1000x).
 
Grildon Tundy said:
There's a difference between millionaires and billionaires, imo. Like the saying goes: "What's the difference between a million and a billion? About a billion." The difference in the amount of power they wield is astronomical (or ~1000x).
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Taylor Swift just recently became a billionaire. 1 billion. Recently. All the rest of the time she was doing fine despite living in meager conditions.
 
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Unfortunately, even with these files we'll never know the extent of who did what and with whom. Just how many people were involved, what exactly they did/didn't do, is going to be taken to the graves of a lot of people. It's an abomination this went on for so long and this nobody loser had his hooks into so many people.

The files are read, but are incomplete, redacted, or are vague

Everyone tries to fill in the gaps

The accused come out and make denials

And that's where it's kind of going to end. I don't see any prosecutions coming out of this unless there's irrefutable smoking guns in there against some of these clowns. But it's better than nothing, at least they were released. Disgrace there's redactions though. Fuck off with that shit, who are you trying to protect? We'll never known the full truth of who did what and the degree they were involved.
 
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Unknown Soldier said:
Unfortunately I wasn't given the list of allowed celebs to dump on, if someone would post the list for me I would greatly appreciate it?

If anyone actually believes that Elon Musk would bring his WIFE with him to Epstein Island then they deserve to be duped by this. Bill Gates went out of his way to hide all of his activities from Melinda, and when she found out about it she divorced him. It's stupid beyond imagination to actually think that not only would Elon beg to go to the island but want to bring his (then) wife along
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Melinda Gates was super conservative. Elons wife prob far more open minded.
 
TheChadOfGaming said:
based elon musk is so retarded he was ghosted by epstein
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He dodged a bullet and ran into another with his comment about refusing that ended up biting his ass in the future. I mean, nothing is going to happen to him, so... I guess shitting on him will suffice?
DragoonKain said:
Unfortunately, even with these files we'll never know the extent of who did what and with whom. Just how many people were involved, what exactly they did/didn't do, is going to be taken to the graves of a lot of people. It's an abomination this went on for so long and this nobody loser had his hooks into so many people.

The files are read, but are incomplete, redacted, or are vague

Everyone tries to fill in the gaps

The accused come out and make denials

And that's where it's kind of going to end. I don't see any prosecutions coming out of this unless there's irrefutable smoking guns in there against some of these clowns. But it's better than nothing, at least they were released. Disgrace there's redactions though. Fuck off with that shit, who are you trying to protect? We'll never known the full truth of who did what and the degree they were involved.
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After some point in time, it became apparent to me that they will never be fully released. I believe there are people on there that if released to the public, would cause chaos, even governments to collapse.
This is all just personal conspiracy, I guess. But I do think if they want to take Trump down, then everyone is going to go down, too. I think that is why there is a weakened push for the files, because it implicates people from all sides, no matter who you're "rooting" for.
 
Dirk Benedict said:
He dodged a bullet and ran into another with his comment about refusing that ended up biting his ass in the future. I mean, nothing is going to happen to him, so... I guess shitting on him will suffice?

After some point in time, it became apparent to me that they will never be fully released. I believe there are people on there that if released to the public, would cause chaos, even governments to collapse.
This is all just personal conspiracy, I guess. But I do think if they want to take Trump down, then everyone is going to go down, too. I think that is why there is a weakened push for the files, because it implicates people from all sides, no matter who you're "rooting" for.
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It's this weird situation where we can't hold people accountable or call them out on the carpet unless we have the full details. Did Elon ever go to the island? Did Elon do anything with underage girls? Right now he has plausible deniability. We are stuck in this nebulous zone where we have some info but not all of it so everyone can go "Yo dude, this looks really bad" and they can go "Yeah, well, looking bad isn't crime, I didn't do anything" and no one can respond with "Actually ya did do something, here's the proof."

So it's going to be a lot of he said, he said... without getting to the bottom of the truth. Unless as people continue to dig into those documents there are people literally stating they did X, Y, Z outright, which I'm sure will be few instances of in all those files. But aren't there millions of pages? It's going to take forever to dig into all that stuff, and it's redacted on top of it.
 
DragoonKain said:
It's this weird situation where we can't hold people accountable or call them out on the carpet unless we have the full details. Did Elon ever go to the island? Did Elon do anything with underage girls? Right now he has plausible deniability. We are stuck in this nebulous zone where we have some info but not all of it so everyone can go "Yo dude, this looks really bad" and they can go "Yeah, well, looking bad isn't crime, I didn't do anything" and no one can respond with "Actually ya did do something, here's the proof."

So it's going to be a lot of he said, he said... without getting to the bottom of the truth. Unless as people continue to dig into those documents there are people literally stating they did X, Y, Z outright, which I'm sure will be few instances of in all those files. But aren't there millions of pages? It's going to take forever to dig into all that stuff, and it's redacted on top of it.
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He's probably too much of a liability to ever invite to the island due to his social retardation. Rumors are that he ruined his penis trying to enlarge it so now he can only mentally get off paying women to get artificially inseminated to fuel his birth fetish.
 
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