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[IDKFA]

The highly protected status of these groups is intended to protect them from lower class citizens

What?

Can you clarify this, because it sounds like you're claiming these laws were built by the elite or ruling class to protect minorities from the perceived prejudices of the lower class, "unwashed masses".

 

[jason10mm]

Imagine thinking boasting about how you'd physically assault a disabled person would get you anything but mockery from us.

Come on, they aren't crippled. You'd think a guy with an affliction that has them spout out insults would learn to fight out of necessity

 

[Moondoggy]

Come on, they aren't crippled. You'd think a guy with an affliction that has them spout out insults would learn to fight out of necessity

Ooop, nevermind, found one that will agree with you.

 

[calico]

What?

Can you clarify this, because it sounds like you're claiming these laws were built by the elite or ruling class to protect minorities from the perceived prejudices of the lower class, "unwashed masses".

It is more through selective enforcement, and not always about protecting from prejudice, and not even about all minorities, but essentially yes. Problems arise when two higher class groups come into conflict like they have here and it is not well established which takes priority over the other.

 

[near]

Good thing no one watches the BAFTAs

 

[Senua]

It's insane to see people calling this guy racist, it just shows a complete lack of understanding of the disability. In 2026 it's crazy people are still so fucking ignorant of so much, and from the "tolerant" left of all places eh.

We've advanced as a race in so many ways but emotional maturity has never been so low

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's insane to see people calling this guy racist, it just shows a complete lack of understanding of the disability. In 2026 it's crazy people are still so fucking ignorant of so much, and from the "tolerant" left of all places eh.

We've advanced as a race in so many ways but emotional maturity has never been so low

Guys like Jamie Foxx (and any others who agree with him) got to make sure disabled people on the totem poll of special needs attention doesnt get his way one-upping Black people. As per Foxx and Snoop Dogg in the video I posted, looks like the Tourette's guy didnt say it cool enough to be acceptable. So even a disabled guy cant get a break unless he said it like a bro or Quentin Tarantino.

 

[GymWolf]

Crazy that a single word has so much power over a certain sub-group of people.

It's like a magic spell.

 

[Toots]

"Other examples of John's outbursts, though not nearly as serious:

- Yelled "Fuck the queen" as he was getting knighted (by the queen).

- Also yelled at the police during that time, that he had a bomb.

- Yelled at Prince Charles that Camilla takes it up the ass"

Added by Bojji to make things clear.

What a legend
Im sure the Queen loved his cheeky outburst, while Charles was very upset (which makes it even better).

 

[GymWolf]

Keep it. You're just reporting, not saying it.

Unrelated to your post but I find it odd that black people are always supposed to be ones to get over the N-word yet no one else (Jews , Italians, the disabled, etc) is supposed to get over the slurs to them.

Dude i'm italian, i've been called names everytime i visit a foreign place, i just laugh and shrug off like any dude with at least 50 iq should do.

You think being called the n-word is top tier racism? I'm sicilian, North italy absolutely hated south italy for a long period (many still do) we had a political party wearing tshirts where they were hoping that the etna volcano (the biggest active volcano in europe) could bury us all, did you ever had a prominent political party saying dead to all blacks so openly? I hardly think so.
At worse you had a politician saying that black poor kids cant use a computer...

Also, i don't go around calling my friends "terrone" (basically the n word for sicilians) or any of the words foreign people think it's funny to call us when we travel outside our land.

Maybe black people should stop normalizing such a terrible word if you really hate it, but no, you still use it as a positive, friendly term, like broh or dude or mate.

If no one use that word, it would disappear in 50 years, like many insults did in the course of history, you people keep that word prominent, not the racists.

 

[GymWolf]

They should have edited or bleeped it out and removed him from the theatre.
He is still responsible for any words that come out of his mouth no matter what condition he has.
Tourettes isn't a free pass to say anything anywhere to anyone. Involuntary or not, he still has to be thinking about these words beforehand.
Any other white person would have been arrested on the spot in the UK these days.
(I don't believe anybody should be arrested for offensive speech, however he shouldn't be excused of responsibility either.)

Tourette is literally a free pass, it's a fucking uncontrollable disease.

Should the dude be locked in his home because some people like you can't deal with neurodivergent illnesses?

What is the next step? We ban people who wear flip flops and crocs because their feet are smelly and look hideous?

(Fuck that's actually a good idea )

 

[Rien]

Being offended by someone with Tourette's syndrome is a special kind of victim hood. People who call him a racist should be ashamed of theirselves and honestly they need to stop to use the word or stop whining.

 

[jason10mm]

Crazy that a single word has so much power over a certain sub-group of people.

It's like a magic spell.

You mean, like a CURSE word?

 

[Senua]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Dude i'm italian, i've been called names everytime i visit a foreign place, i just laugh and shrug off like any dude with at least 50 iq should do.

You think being called the n-word is top tier racism? I'm sicilian, North italy absolutely hated south italy for a long period (many still do) we had a political party wearing tshirts where they were hoping that the etna volcano (the biggest active volcano in europe) could bury us all, did you ever had a prominent political party saying dead to all blacks so openly? I hardly think so.
At worse you had a politician saying that black poor kids cant use a computer...

Also, i don't go around calling my friends "terrone" (basically the n word for sicilians) or any of the words foreign people think it's funny to call us when we travel outside our land.

Maybe black people should stop normalizing such a terrible word if you really hate it, but no, you still use it as a positive, friendly term, like broh or dude or mate.

If no one use that word, it would disappear in 50 years, like many insults did in the course of history, you people keep that word prominent, not the racists.

Being offended by someone with Tourette's syndrome is a special kind of victim hood. People who call him a racist should be ashamed of theirselves and honestly they need to stop to use the word or stop whining.

Problem with the Tourette's guy is he's not Black and didnt say it cool enough in a dude bro way. If he was a Black guy who yelled it out I guarantee nobody would care. It wouldnt be able to be labeled racist as no Black people ever call their own racist. Everyone would have a good laugh no different then if Snoop Dogg came on stage and said it right to the camera while smoking a joint. Hahaha. What a cool guy!

But in life, you can see why some people clutch to things in a pity plea kind of way. It's their way of trying to retain some kind of power since every other group is blowing by them. Other groups over 100s of years of discrimination grow up. Werent Japanese people in the US all rounded up in WWII because the US gov thought they suddenly became enemies? I remember George Takei bringing that up when he was a kid. Fast forward, I dont get a sense Japanese keep bringing it up, nor does anyone hate Japanese people for being WWII Pearl Harbour ambushers.

Over time things pass. The less people make a big commotion out of things the more it disappears as the modern gens dont get exposed to it. And if they dont get exposed, they wont care. For example, I got Italian friends. I've never heard Terrone before. I've heard of WOP (or WAP?), but maybe Terrone is something only Italians know. So if I dont know it, I wont care. Even in a more funny example, my nephews and nieces have never seen or heard of Married with Children. Al Bundy who? Makes sense since they were brought up in the 2000s, so they'd follow other TV shows or YT.

Problem with the Black community is they keep bringing up stuff forever. And in this case of the N word, there's gatekeeping where you got be approved whether it's ok to say or not. Which in this case, I guess a Tourettes tic guy isnt approved. The general public doesnt care for this shit. They just want to get through life.

 

[RagnarokIV]

What a legend lol

 

[kpopSuperstar]

If no one told me what he was yelling I wouldn't have caught it.

 

[Rien]

Problem with the Tourette's guy is he's not Black and didnt say it cool enough in a dude bro way. If he was a Black guy who yelled it out I guarantee nobody would care. It wouldnt be able to be labeled racist as no Black people ever call their own racist. Everyone would have a good laugh no different then if Snoop Dogg came on stage and said it right to the camera while smoking a joint. Hahaha. What a cool guy!

But in life, you can see why some people clutch to things in a pity plea kind of way. It's their way of trying to retain some kind of power since every other group is blowing by them. Other groups over 100s of years of discrimination grow up. Werent Japanese people in the US all rounded up in WWII because the US gov thought they suddenly became enemies? I remember George Takei bringing that up when he was a kid. Fast forward, I dont get a sense Japanese keep bringing it up, nor does anyone hate Japanese people for being WWII Pearl Harbour ambushers.

Over time things pass. The less people make a big commotion out of things the more it disappears as the modern gens dont get exposed to it. And if they dont get exposed, they wont care. For example, I got Italian friends. I've never heard Terrone before. I've heard of WOP (or WAP?), but maybe Terrone is something only Italians know. So if I dont know it, I wont care. Even in a more funny example, my nephews and nieces have never seen or heard of Married with Children. Al Bundy who? Makes sense since they were brought up in the 2000s, so they'd follow other TV shows or YT.

Problem with the Black community is they keep bringing up stuff forever. And in this case of the N word, there's gatekeeping where you got be approved whether it's ok to say or not. Which in this case, I guess a Tourettes tic guy isnt approved. The general public doesnt care for this shit. They just want to get through life.

Yeah I think this is more embarrassing for the black community than it is for the person with Tourette's to be honest. It's really childish if you ask me

 

[DeafTourette]

Dude i'm italian, i've been called names everytime i visit a foreign place, i just laugh and shrug off like any dude with at least 50 iq should do.

You think being called the n-word is top tier racism? I'm sicilian, North italy absolutely hated south italy for a long period (many still do) we had a political party wearing tshirts where they were hoping that the etna volcano (the biggest active volcano in europe) could bury us all, did you ever had a prominent political party saying dead to all blacks so openly? I hardly think so.
At worse you had a politician saying that black poor kids cant use a computer...

Also, i don't go around calling my friends "terrone" (basically the n word for sicilians) or any of the words foreign people think it's funny to call us when we travel outside our land.

Maybe black people should stop normalizing such a terrible word if you really hate it, but no, you still use it as a positive, friendly term, like broh or dude or mate.

If no one use that word, it would disappear in 50 years, like many insults did in the course of history, you people keep that word prominent, not the racists.

In the last 100 years there were bombings, lynchings, beatings, etc ... Some of those on video and pictures (Bloody Sunday for example)... There have been whole black communities wiped off the map ... There were, even today, sundown towns (look it up). It goes beyond just a slur... But what that slur represents. I gave a history of that word in the black community and why it still persists. It's unique in that aspect.

 

[DeepEnigma]

In the last 100 years there were bombings, lynchings, beatings, etc ... Some of those on video and pictures (Bloody Sunday for example)... There have been whole black communities wiped off the map ... There were, even today, sundown towns (look it up). It goes beyond just a slur... But what that slur represents. I gave a history of that word in the black community and why it still persists. It's unique in that aspect.

Nobody says it more hateful in current year, than when one black man is shooting another.

This happens all day every day in the black community. Far more death and oppression has been and still is being committed by that very culture of violence.

 

[DeafTourette]

Are you black? Do you live in a black community/neighborhood? I grew up in a black community and I was safe. Most black people did.

All your information is skewed to show us in a bad light.

This happens all day every day in the black community. Far more death and oppression has been and still is being committed by that very culture of violence.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

In the UK, if you're white and you use/type the word then you're getting arrested and taken to court for committing a hate crime, regardless of the context. Having Tourette syndrome would be one of the only exceptions.

Sorry to my fellow Brits but the UK has really become a dystopia...
........

Anyway, my take is pretty simple:

When a community normalizes a word within its own music and pop culture for decades, it shouldn't be shocking that the rest of the world ends up repeating it too. That doesn't erase the history behind it, but it does make the conversation more complicated than just "only we can say it, end of discussion."...
In the 90s, artists like Ice Cube , Ice-T, and groups like N.W.A amongst others, pushed gangsta rap into the global mainstream, their audience wasn't just one demographic, a huge portion of it was...white suburban kids all over the world. The language in those albums was repeated constantly, commercially packaged, and exported worldwide, now , when something is broadcast like that for 30 years straight, people are going to absorb it - that's just reality.

I'm not denying the history or pretending words don't carry weight, i'm saying there's a contradiction when something is aggressively globalized through entertainment and then treated as though it exists in a sealed cultural bubble.
Other cultures don't usually put their own intra-group insults on global display like that, If Greeks, for example, blasted "malakas" in every international hit song for three decades and then suddenly said, "Only Greeks can ever say this" , people would raise an eyebrow - context matters. Relationship matters. But so does consistency.

As for the word "negro," it literally means "black" in Spanish and Portuguese. It wasn't invented as a slur, In English-speaking history it absolutely became associated with racism and discrimination, which is why it's considered offensive in that context today but in countries like Spain, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Peru or Chile it's still the standard word for the color black.

Language depends heavily on culture and history, at the end of the day, I'm not trying to dismiss anyone's experience, I just think when culture is exported globally and consumed by millions outside the originating community, you can't completely detach it from that global audience afterward. If we're going to talk about appropriation or boundaries, we should at least acknowledge that complexity instead of pretending it doesn't exist.

In the last 100 years there were bombings, lynchings, beatings, etc ... Some of those on video and pictures (Bloody Sunday for example)... There have been whole black communities wiped off the map ... There were, even today, sundown towns (look it up). It goes beyond just a slur... But what that slur represents. I gave a history of that word in the black community and why it still persists. It's unique in that aspect.

"100 years" you say? If we're going to measure historical grievance in centuries, then by that logic peoples such as the Greeks could claim an even longer ledger. Large parts of Greece were under Ottoman rule for roughly 400 years, and that period included heavy taxation, repression, and episodes of brutal violence. Later, at the end of the Greco-Turkish War, the destruction of Smyrna in 1922 and the wider catastrophe in Asia Minor led to mass displacement and immense suffering on both sides.
And Greece is hardly unique in that regard. If you look at Armenian history, particularly the events of 1915, or Irish history under British rule, you'll find long records of hardship, famine, persecution, and conflict. The point is not to rank suffering or turn history into a competition. It is simply to acknowledge that many nations and peoples carry deep historical scars.
That is precisely why we should be cautious about framing present-day disagreements as uniquely unprecedented injustices. Perspective matters. And in this specific case, especially when a person with a very particular disability is involved, it might be wiser not to default to outrage.

 

[Bojji]

Sorry to my fellow Brits but the UK has really become a dystopia...
........

Anyway, my take is pretty simple:

When a community normalizes a word within its own music and pop culture for decades, it shouldn't be shocking that the rest of the world ends up repeating it too. That doesn't erase the history behind it, but it does make the conversation more complicated than just "only we can say it, end of discussion."
In the 90s, artists like Ice Cube and Ice-T, and groups like N.W.A, pushed gangsta rap into the global mainstream. Their audience wasn't just one demographic. A huge portion of it was white suburban kids all over the world. The language in those albums was repeated constantly, commercially packaged, and exported worldwide. When something is broadcast like that for 30 years straight, people are going to absorb it. That's just reality.
I'm not denying the history or pretending words don't carry weight. I'm saying there's a contradiction when something is aggressively globalized through entertainment and then treated as though it exists in a sealed cultural bubble.
Other cultures don't usually put their own intra-group insults on global display like that. If Greeks, for example, blasted "malakas" in every international hit song for three decades and then suddenly said, "Only Greeks can ever say this," people would raise an eyebrow. Context matters. Relationship matters. But so does consistency.
As for the word "negro," it literally means "black" in Spanish and Portuguese. It wasn't invented as a slur. In English-speaking history it absolutely became associated with racism and discrimination, which is why it's considered offensive in that context today but in countries like Spain, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Peru or Chile it's still the standard word for the color black.

Language depends heavily on culture and history.
At the end of the day, I'm not trying to dismiss anyone's experience, I just think when culture is exported globally and consumed by millions outside the originating community, you can't completely detach it from that global audience afterward. If we're going to talk about appropriation or boundaries, we should at least acknowledge that complexity instead of pretending it doesn't exist.



"100 years" you say? If we're going to measure historical grievance in centuries, then by that logic peoples such as the Greeks could claim an even longer ledger. Large parts of Greece were under Ottoman rule for roughly 400 years, and that period included heavy taxation, repression, and episodes of brutal violence. Later, at the end of the Greco-Turkish War, the destruction of Smyrna in 1922 and the wider catastrophe in Asia Minor led to mass displacement and immense suffering on both sides.
And Greece is hardly unique in that regard. If you look at Armenian history, particularly the events of 1915, or Irish history under British rule, you'll find long records of hardship, famine, persecution, and conflict. The point is not to rank suffering or turn history into a competition. It is simply to acknowledge that many nations and peoples carry deep historical scars.
That is precisely why we should be cautious about framing present-day disagreements as uniquely unprecedented injustices. Perspective matters. And in this specific case, especially when a person with a very particular disability is involved, it might be wiser not to default to outrage.

By the logic "you did us harm in the past" we (Polish people) should fucking hate Germans and Russians to the point of not wanting to have anything to do with them (over 3 millions of Polish people killed by them + 3 millions of Polish Jews). But what's in the past is in the past...
People born after WW2 weren't harmed by any Germans, why they should hate them? We should focus on what is happening now.

DeafTourette : Black culture certainly isn't helping with this image, all tv movies and shows from the 80s, 90s and 2000s showed ultra violence between black people, big gang culture and glorification of this (criminal) way of life. Hip Hop was pretty much the same.

Looking at statistics now, it seems that black person have the highest chance of being murdered by another black person.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Are you black? Do you live in a black community/neighborhood? I grew up in a black community and I was safe. Most black people did.

All your information is skewed to show us in a bad light.

It doesn't matter what I am. Facts are the facts. "Gangsta culture" and eugenics designed abortion clinics on every corner, destruction of the nuclear families, and the incentivized welfare state all aided in the downfall and vicious cycle. Some of the so called "black leaders" continued to sell out the very community.

Once gain, nobody says "nigga" more hateful than black man killing another black man.

Can't blame "whitey" for everything.

To answer your question about growing up, yes, I did grow up in "the hood," poor, and was in high school in the height of "gangland" in the 90s. I had two choices at the time, continue to roll around with fellow hood rats to eventually end up dead or in prison like a lot of friends from HS, or make changes to hopefully better my life.

I am blessed by the good Lord that I chose the latter.

 

[DeafTourette]

By the logic "you did us harm in the past" we (Polish people) should fucking hate Germans and Russians to the point of not wanting to have anything to do with them (over 3 millions of Polish people killed by them + 3 millions of Polish Jews). But what's in the past is in the past...
People born after WW2 weren't harmed by any Germans, why they should hate them? We should focus on what is happening now.

DeafTourette : Black culture certainly isn't helping with this image, all tv movies and shows from the 80s, 90s and 2000s showed ultra violence between black people, big gang culture and glorification of this (criminal) way of life. Hip Hop was pretty much the same.

Looking at statistics now, it seems that black person have the highest chance of being murdered by another black person.

And white folks are more likely to be murdered by other white folks. Intra-racial violence is true in each demographic.

I'll admit, there's a lot of unresolved trauma in our community that manifests itself in bad ways. But it isn't the majority.

And TV shows, music and movies shouldn't be what informs you about black people. We're as diverse in our communities as anyone else.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And white folks are more likely to be murdered by other white folks. Intra-racial violence is true in each demographic.

I'll admit, there's a lot of unresolved trauma in our community that manifests itself in bad ways. But it isn't the majority.

And TV shows, music and movies shouldn't be what informs you about black people. We're as diverse in our communities as anyone else.

Could not agree more with this, yes.

 

[Bojji]

And white folks are more likely to be murdered by other white folks. Intra-racial violence is true in each demographic.

I'll admit, there's a lot of unresolved trauma in our community that manifests itself in bad ways. But it isn't the majority.

And TV shows, music and movies shouldn't be what informs you about black people. We're as diverse in our communities as anyone else.

Fully agree here, both entertainment media and social media can't show how real life experiences look like. There are many harmful stereotypes for every ethnic group (some of them may still be true but many of them were only true in the past).

When it comes to movies and tv shows, this is how rest of the world see America (we were bombarded by it), no matter how untrue those movies were (both in positive and negative ways).

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It doesn't matter what I am. Facts are the facts. "Gangsta culture" and eugenics designed abortion clinics on every corner, destruction of the nuclear families, and the incentivized welfare state all aided in the downfall and vicious cycle. Some of the so called "black leaders" continued to sell out the very community.

Once gain, nobody says "nigga" more hateful than black man killing another black man.

Can't blame "whitey" for everything.

To answer your question about growing us, yes, I did grow up in "the hood," poor, and was in high school in the height of "gangland" in the 90s. I had two choices at the time, continue to roll around with fellow hood rats to eventually end up dead or in prison like a lot of friends from HS, or make changes to hopefully better my life.

I am blessed by the good Lord that I chose the latter.

I'd say it goes way beyond that. Anyone acting and dressing ghetto will have a hard time getting a good job. Even if they somehow did well in school with easy grading teachers, it doesnt matter because given how shitty their language skills are I guarantee their resumes are shit.

And even if they had a good one to score that screener interview with the Assistant HR Manager, the chances of someone doing well and making it to the next interviews will be lower and lower.

It's hard enough for anyone who has a solid resume, dress, and interview skills to score a job right off the bat. 1 person might get the job out of 100 applicants. And that assumes the company doesnt just give someone internal the job wasting every external candidate's time. A guy talking ghetto just had his chances of scoring that job drop by -90% vs everyone else.

As for rough upbringings, I was fine. But my parents immigrated after WWII, all 4 of their parents killed/suicide, raised by their grandparents (my great grandparents who I met one of them when I was like 8 years old). So for me and my siblings, we grew up with zero grandparents. They were already dead 20 years ago! Had marginal help from relatives already here, but it wasnt much because they were still broke, didnt know english, my mom graduated high school here (barely), and dad worked as waiter double teaming university over 8 years. My older siblings didnt see dad much growing up since he was either working or doing school. And of course back then there were no online courses. You had to be there.

Oh, and they had to learn english here too. My parents didnt even buy a car till they were 36. Before I was born, my fam was the ones you drive by while they are standing at a cold bus stop.

Fam turned out fine. So it shows if you put in some effort even dealt a bad hand you can do better.

 

[calico]

If killers were picked totally at random, the most likely killer of someone from the majority racial group (and every other group) would be someone from the majority racial group, so it doesn't really say much that white people are most commonly killed by a white person in a majority white population.

We would expect 'same race killer' to be elevated to some extent above 'same race killer if killer chosen at random from the population' for each group, and would need to compare the scale of that elevation across groups to say much meaningful about it.

 

[pachura]

It was literally a scene in movie "The square" with Dominic West

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Fully agree here, both entertainment media and social media can't show how real life experiences look like. There are many harmful stereotypes for every ethnic group (some of them may still be true but many of them were only true in the past).

When it comes to movies and tv shows, this is how rest of the world see America (we were bombarded by it), no matter how untrue those movies were (both in positive and negative ways).

There are going to be negative stereotypes for everyone, BUT as always there's some truth to it. That's how stereotypes form.

Never the less, adding to what I said above about jobs (which is a foundation for career, money, supporting a family, being a good example for kids etc...) is that when people take up and act out a stereotype in real life, some things are worse than others. Like the old saying, you only get once chance for a first impression.

For example, Asian people are stereotyped as nerdy bookworms or play musical instruments pushed on from Tiger Mom. Indian people eat curry and who get good marks in school. Some are Sikhs also wear a turban with a big beard or moustache. Black people as gangstas'.

Out of these people who truly act this out real life, which ones will have a better chance at getting more respectable better paying jobs and who wont. In turn, when you got a good starting foundation, that's how you build a strong family tree.

 

[archangelmorph]

If killers were picked totally at random, the most likely killer of someone from the majority racial group (and every other group) would be someone from the majority racial group, so it doesn't really say much that white people are most commonly killed by a white person in a majority white population.

We would expect 'same race killer' to be elevated to some extent above 'same race killer if killer chosen at random from the population' for each group, and would need to compare the scale of that elevation across groups to say much meaningful about it.

Worst hot take I've ever read.

That's not how this works.

American's love their "black on black violence" narrative like it's an actual thing.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Crush a load of poor (previously enslaved) people's into ghetto's they can't get out of...
Assault them with decades of socioeconomic depravity & exclusion from every type of social mobility mechanism imaginable...
Deploy over them decades of Jim Crow economics; further excluding them from building wealth, prosperity or any semblance of a reasonable quality of life...

Then overlay that with about two decades of abusing these same communities with proliferated illegal narcotics, with the odd economic lifelines thrown in by separate communities that offer participation in this illegal trade as a "high risk, high reward" way for them to economically strive, whilst concentrating systematic drugs enforcement over the same communities to ensure those that are caught see mass incarcerations...

Then very slowly lift all that gradually over the years and proudly proclaim over public discourse that "institutional racism is dead" and "your failures are a function or your own communities inability to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps", whilst ignoring the endemic legacies of past treatments and social erosion being now baked into the fabric of said communities own current cultural identity (e.g. hip hop music, hip hop culture etc).

Any violence within this community is no different to the violence present in any regional community in any part of the world with high concentrations of persistent socioeconomic depravity and neglect. This one is very much a special case but it has fuck all to do with anything remotely intrinsic to said people's, as otherwise you'd see a deep heritage of extreme violence across the entire history of all peoples across the African continent (a place where the majority of endemic and deep-seated persistence violence has been almost unanimously the product of intentional European colonial machinations and interference for the benefit of natural resource extraction for foreign powers).

If you think the ghettos of Chicago are any different to the ghettos of Glasgow in terms of the scale, shape, context and rationale for violent behaviour largely committed by a socioeconomic underclass, then I have about a thousand bridges and a nuclear power station to sell you.

I love how in 2026 people still subscribe to this bullshit, with a complete inability to educate themselves on the realities of the wider complexities at play, even in a age where you can LITERALLY ask ChatGPT to fucking spoon feed this stuff to you in about an afternoon to fairly trivially cancel one's own ignorance...

I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for people to see this stuff in economic terms instead of racial ones.

Like it genuinely must take IMHO a fairly severe type of brain damage to think someone not only MUST be INTRINSICALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY different because they don't look the same, but that they MUST be abhorred and scorned as a result, irrespective of the specifics of the nature, character and fabric of the individual in question. Like WTF??

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

If he was a Black guy who yelled it out I guarantee nobody would care.

People would care, probably less, but they would still care, because black people don't call each other -ger.
It might seem like a small difference to non-black people, but the difference between -ga and -ger is massive.

 

[Bojji]

Worst hot take I've ever read.

That's not how this works.

American's love their "black on black violence" narrative like it's an actual thing.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Crush a load of poor (previously enslaved) people's into ghetto's they can't get out of...
Assault them with decades of socioeconomic depravity & exclusion from every type of social mobility mechanism imaginable...
Deploy over them decades of Jim Crow economics; further excluding them from building wealth, prosperity or any semblance of a reasonable quality of life...

Then overlay that with about two decades of abusing these same communities with proliferated illegal narcotics, with the odd economic lifelines thrown in by separate communities that offer participation in this illegal trade as a "high risk, high reward" way for them to economically strive, whilst concentrating systematic drugs enforcement over the same communities to ensure those that are caught see mass incarcerations...

Then very slowly lift all that gradually over the years and proudly proclaim over public discourse that "institutional racism is dead" and "your failures are a function or your own communities inability to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps", whilst ignoring the endemic legacies of past treatments and social erosion being now baked into the fabric of said communities own current cultural identity (e.g. hip hop music, hip hop culture etc).

Any violence within this community is no different to the violence present in any regional community in any part of the world with high concentrations of persistent socioeconomic depravity and neglect. This one is very much a special case but it has fuck all to do with anything remotely intrinsic to said people's, as otherwise you'd see a deep heritage of extreme violence across the entire history of all peoples across the African continent (a place where the majority of endemic and deep-seated persistence violence has been almost unanimously the product of intentional European colonial machinations and interference for the benefit of natural resource extraction for foreign powers).

If you think the ghettos of Chicago are any different to the ghettos of Glasgow in terms of the scale, shape, context and rationale for violent behaviour largely committed by a socioeconomic underclass, then I have about a thousand bridges and a nuclear power station to sell you.

I love how in 2026 people still subscribe to this bullshit, with a complete inability to educate themselves on the realities of the wider complexities at play, even in a age where you can LITERALLY ask ChatGPT to fucking spoon feed this stuff to you in about an afternoon to fairly trivially cancel one's own ignorance...

I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for people to see this stuff in economic terms instead of racial ones.

Like it genuinely must take IMHO a fairly severe type of brain damage to think someone not only MUST be INTRINSICALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY different because they don't look the same, but that they MUST be abhorred and scorned as a result, irrespective of the specifics of the nature, character and fabric of the individual in question. Like WTF??

Black culture is the main culprit why black neighbors aren't safe. And many black people are sick of this "gangsta" shit as well.

Listen to Professor Sowell, looks like when he was growing up black neighbors were far less violet and more safe than now:



And that was in times when systemic racism was the real thing done by government.

 

[archangelmorph]

Black culture is the main culprit why black neighbors aren't safe. And many black people are sick of this "gangsta" shit as well.

Listen to Professor Sowell, looks like when he was growing up black neighbors were far less violet and more safe than now:



And that was in times when systemic racism was the real thing done by government.

Lol!

Yeah keep trying.

Even some African Americans remain deluded in the whys here.

"Black culture" is not a static thing and has evolved reactively to social, economic and political influences and disenfranchisements.

See the rise in civil disobedience and youth violence (of which knife crime has been a subset; not just in inner city London but across inners cities all over the country; where the majority are disproportionately white underclass) in the UK over the past decade.

The US like the UK has spend the better part of the last twenty years offshoring most of it's labour, and who do you think gets then left behind when there are no jobs or prospects within the unskilled labour bracket?

The underclass. Of which you lot in the US have spent the better part of your history ensuring has been concentrated into ethnically segregated ghettos.

It's simply retarded to think "culture" can be a root cause of anything.

Again by your own admission, this culture didn't exist before (in the way of its circular influence in concentrating and catalysing disenfranchisement, leading to civic apathy and therefore disobedience towards both societal norms as well as the rule of law), so unless you think it was somehow innate of these people's (why did it not exist before and why is it not present amongst the same people's in other parts of the world?) then there must have been a myriad of factors that incubated it. Many of whom I have already mentioned in detail.

Again.

Get the fuck outta here with that simpleton bullshit.

 

[Bojji]

Lol!

Yeah keep trying.

Even some African Americans remain deluded in the whys here.

"Black culture" is not a static thing and has evolved reactively to social, economic and political influences and disenfranchisements.

See the rise in civil disobedience and youth violence (of which knife crime has been a subset; not just in inner city London but across inners cities all over the country; where the majority are disproportionately white underclass) in the UK over the past decade.

The US like the UK has spend the better part of the last twenty years offshoring most of it's labour, and who do you think gets then left behind when there are no jobs or prospects within the unskilled labour bracket?

It's simply retarded to think "culture" can be a root cause of anything.

Again by your own admission, this culture didn't exist before (in the way of its circular influence in concentrating and catalysing disenfranchisement, leading to civic apathy and therefore disobedience towards both societal norms as well as the rule of law), so unless you think it was somehow innate of these people's (why did it not exist before and why is it not present amongst the same people's in other parts of the world?) then there must have been a myriad of factors that incubated it. Many of whom I have already mentioned in detail.

Again.

Get the fuck outta here with that simpleton bullshit.

Black culture has roots in white south redneck culture (and that one comes from English peasants). If you think that you are smarter than Professor Thomas Sowell... good luck.

 

[SirTerry-T]

So if my understanding of "The Word" is if it's said with out the hard "R" sound and with the "ga"...that makes it less offensive?

Ok, now baring in mind the fella in question is a Scot and Americans, in all fairness, don't always have the best ear when it comes to accents...

 

[archangelmorph]

Black culture has roots in white south redneck culture (and that one comes from English peasants). If you think that you are smarter than Professor Thomas Sowell... good luck.

And you don't seem to understand how intelligence works either.

Just because someone is Smart doesn't mean they're never wrong.

That goes trebly so when their field in question is anthropological and about as far from an empirical science as you can get.

Some truths are unanimous but most are subjective and conflict based on divergent perspectives combined with separated axiomatic interpretations.

And a lot of interpretation is unfortunately skewed by cognitive bias, regardless of IQ (in fact studies have shown this skew is worse typically for those with higher IQs).

So no, I don't need your luck but all the best with your own cognitive failure in blindly supporting this bullshit.

 

[DeafTourette]

So if my understanding of "The Word" is if it's said with out the hard "R" sound and with the "ga"...that makes it less offensive?

Ok, now baring in mind the fella in question is a Scot and Americans, in all fairness, don't always have the best ear when it comes to accents...

Only less offensive if it's said by a black person. Still highly offensive whether it's -a or -er when said by a white person. Kinda like how women can playfully call each other "bitch" but it's highly offensive when coming from a man.

 

[calico]

Worst hot take I've ever read.

That's not how this works.

American's love their "black on black violence" narrative like it's an actual thing.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Crush a load of poor (previously enslaved) people's into ghetto's they can't get out of...
Assault them with decades of socioeconomic depravity & exclusion from every type of social mobility mechanism imaginable...
Deploy over them decades of Jim Crow economics; further excluding them from building wealth, prosperity or any semblance of a reasonable quality of life...

Then overlay that with about two decades of abusing these same communities with proliferated illegal narcotics, with the odd economic lifelines thrown in by separate communities that offer participation in this illegal trade as a "high risk, high reward" way for them to economically strive, whilst concentrating systematic drugs enforcement over the same communities to ensure those that are caught see mass incarcerations...

Then very slowly lift all that gradually over the years and proudly proclaim over public discourse that "institutional racism is dead" and "your failures are a function or your own communities inability to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps", whilst ignoring the endemic legacies of past treatments and social erosion being now baked into the fabric of said communities own current cultural identity (e.g. hip hop music, hip hop culture etc).

Any violence within this community is no different to the violence present in any regional community in any part of the world with high concentrations of persistent socioeconomic depravity and neglect. This one is very much a special case but it has fuck all to do with anything remotely intrinsic to said people's, as otherwise you'd see a deep heritage of extreme violence across the entire history of all peoples across the African continent (a place where the majority of endemic and deep-seated persistence violence has been almost unanimously the product of intentional European colonial machinations and interference for the benefit of natural resource extraction for foreign powers).

If you think the ghettos of Chicago are any different to the ghettos of Glasgow in terms of the scale, shape, context and rationale for violent behaviour largely committed by a socioeconomic underclass, then I have about a thousand bridges and a nuclear power station to sell you.

I love how in 2026 people still subscribe to this bullshit, with a complete inability to educate themselves on the realities of the wider complexities at play, even in a age where you can LITERALLY ask ChatGPT to fucking spoon feed this stuff to you in about an afternoon to fairly trivially cancel one's own ignorance...

I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for people to see this stuff in economic terms instead of racial ones.

Like it genuinely must take IMHO a fairly severe type of brain damage to think someone not only MUST be INTRINSICALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY different because they don't look the same, but that they MUST be abhorred and scorned as a result, irrespective of the specifics of the nature, character and fabric of the individual in question. Like WTF??

I've heard all of these accountability dodging, perpetual victimhood excuses before countless times, and have little interest in discussing them again, but what does any of this have to do with anything I said?

What I said was it is a pretty meaningless statement to say that white people are most often killed by a white person, as in a majority white population this would be the case even if the 'killer' was chosen at random. In order to derive anything worthwhile we would first need to look at how elevated (if at all) this is beyond the 'random killer' baseline.

We would then need to do this for other groups if we wished to compare them. This ofc would only explain whether there is a difference, not explain the reason for any differnce.

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I've heard all of these accountability dodging, perpetual victimhood excuses before countless times, and have little interest in discussing them again, but what does any of this have to do with anything I said?

Black community is poor with lousy jobs because the culture (compared to others) seems to not give a shit about school and communicating like a normal person.

Very few businesses embrace young adults with lousy marks, credentials or talk ghetto. And if they do, the job will skew to being pretty crap. So it's a self fulfilling cycle. Just look at all the higher skilled and paying careers. Aside from sports and entertainment where anyone with some talent to get fans gets paid, very few careers at the higher end have ghetto attitudes or dont need college/university. Higher end careers typically skew white collar academic or tech etc... And with tech you dont even need to have pristine communication skills. Just be good with tech with a good enough personality.

What a lot of people dont realize (I said it before) is that to score good careers you got to at least be good enough to have an effective resume and interviewing skills. If the resume is well written and good enough, youre halfway there. That's why they called you. Your bullet points qualify. It's now up to the person to be able to convince the interviewers they will be a good fit and can answer questions. And very few places want gangsta attitude.

Just to show how insane it is. You can have immigrants from other countries who could be poor, not even know english, and know nobody. It's a total fresh start of nothingness where the person or parent has to start their family/generation from the bottom. No different than all of us who's family tree had unskilled and zero english immigrants after WWII, where some of us had half the family tree already killed.

Somehow these people can strive for success. It might take a generation to get some stability, but you can see the foundation is trying its best for long term success even if the maximum the mom and dad can do is work at low skilled jobs. But for long term success of the kids, there's still some general guidance to show the way. And nobody in life who wants their kids to do well tell them to act gangsta.

 

[Bojji]

Looks like hate for disabled people is back in the menu:



Too bad disabled people aren't even remotely as influential as LGBT mafia or BLM... nobody cares about them, but black actors with net worth of dozens of millions of dollars are "poor and oppressed".

 

[GymWolf]

So if my understanding of "The Word" is if it's said with out the hard "R" sound and with the "ga"...that makes it less offensive?

Ok, now baring in mind the fella in question is a Scot and Americans, in all fairness, don't always have the best ear when it comes to accents...

From my understanding Gga is friendly, colloquial, like brotha.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So if my understanding of "The Word" is if it's said with out the hard "R" sound and with the "ga"...that makes it less offensive?

Ok, now baring in mind the fella in question is a Scot and Americans, in all fairness, don't always have the best ear when it comes to accents...

It also helps saying it if you're a black person and say it in a cool way. Think of Snoop Dogg saying it

 

[p_xavier]

Imagine being offended by a word. I will never understand these people.

 

[GymWolf]

Only someone as smooth as lamar can use the ger word against another black dude

 

[DeepEnigma]

but black actors with net worth of dozens of millions of dollars are "poor and oppressed".

Oppressed behind their 99% white 24-hour guard-gated neighborhoods.

 

[lifa-cobex]

Painfully ignorant.
You even had time to look into the condition but their still going to lean into it.

Absolutely embarrassing.

 

[DeafTourette]

Looks like hate for disabled people is back in the menu:



Too bad disabled people aren't even remotely as influential as LGBT mafia or BLM... nobody cares about them, but black actors with net worth of dozens of millions of dollars are "poor and oppressed".

It's a joke, not an actual threat.

Imagine being offended by a word. I will never understand these people.

Try calling anyone non white or Jewish a slur and see how that works out for you.