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Marathon releases to 87,000 players on Steam and 87% Positive Reviews (sponsored by coachmcguirk91)
Saber
Newd Member
Now at 4th place behind RE9.
More importantly, Slay has like 470k people online playing, cheesuz.
bbw_lover87
Member
Yep, crazy how borderlands 4 needed more time like perfomence/ui bug even endgames, i think marathon fail
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Congrats to the #48 most played game on Steam this Saturday.
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
This game will struggle to hit 100k, it likely already peaked and it's only down from here.
There's way too much competition, Marathon is good but good isn't enough.
You have to be exceptional, to stand a chance.
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Slay the spire is only 1 game, there are thousands of other games like this on Steam with under 10 CCU.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, not seeing hit 100K either. I think it matches or slightly surpasses 88K. Might make it to 90K, but it's only at 52K right now. I was thinking the highly positive ratings would give it a boost, but it doesn't seem like it.
How is it doing on PlayStation?
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
The thing about all those other games is they had huge beginnings in the 400 500 600k up to 2 million etc... That to me shows they have something despite the numbers falling back eventually. Marathons numbers are so weak as I've said before no way bungie and sony are happy, infact if I were sony I'd be pretty pissed
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Not sure how it's doing on the PlayStation side but, has to be hoping the numbers are higher over there.
Considering the time and cost to develop this game, it's looking like a flop.
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Yes, out of the gate a somewhat healthy sign of success would have been even 200k CCU on launch day for Steam.
With ideally that number continuing to ramp up towards 500k+.
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Instant_Classic
Junior Member
I have cross play on rarely match up with PlayStation guys, makes me wonder how the game sold on that side.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
We'll see. I think it can hit 100k today or tomorrow. It'll likely hit its all time peak tomorrow afternoon barring some miracle.
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
It already reached its peak.
I'm going by how these situations usually play out.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
These numbers are ok for an indie dev but you cant sustain a studio like Bungie with this. The question is what is next for them. Either they go all-in in a huge project (Destiny 3) or they lay off half their staff and work on a smaller scope.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Guess slay the spire fans don't work
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Destiny 3 will take at least 5 years to develop and be very expensive.
Marathon may not provide sufficient cash for Sony to justify funding Bungie further.
Destiny 3 will realistically be a next gen title, and release in the 2030s assuming it even happens.
With that said, there's no guarantee that will succeed given how far out that is and whether people will still care about the IP.
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Autistic_Pancake
Member
They can't attract enough people to populate new games because all the normies are weebs these days, and the weebs have their own anime games now (most of them GaaS too).
When I search for Marathon, all I see is some weird shit. Would I consider playing it? Nah...
Then I look for whatever Asian game comes out soon, and something just clicks - no hesitation, I dive balls deep into yet-another-Chinese-shitstain-of-a-gacha-game, even if it turns out to be crap.
And there are millions of people going through the same experience, judging by revenue/downloads - the numbers are huge compared to the sloppy seconds received by Western GaaS products.
If their goal is to make money, they're doing it wrong.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
hyperbertha
Member
Ideally they get shutdown, and absorbed. A studio with destiny in its name doesn't deserve to have a legacy.
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
88k will likely but it's all time peak, barring some miracle.
Horrible?
No
But way below Sony's expectations?
Yes
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Sony lookin for the money from bungie
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
I don't think Bungie is going to be around after this.
"Sony shuts down Bungie" announcement may happen later this year.
MayauMiao
Member
Now at 4th place behind RE9.
I wonder how is Marathon performance against RE9 on PSN.
Saber
Newd Member
Its horrible for Bungie standarts. You could expect that numbers from a random low ass devs nobody heard about. Bungie is know worldwide and put up things like Destiny.
I remember someone not long ago putting top psn sales and it wasn't good.
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Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Yes, the entire staff is panic mode but won't make it appear as such.
We'll see if the numbers turn around.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Wouldn't cross-play prioritize PC if you're on PC?
ValiantInstance
Member
The waste of money in this space is mind-boggling. As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, Infinity Ward had around 100 employees (many of them not actually devs) when they made Call of Duty 4. That game changed the landscape, a brilliant campaign and arguably the most important multiplayer mode ever made. It launched with 16 maps, many of which are now considered all time classics.
I've come to the conclusion that publishers back then actually hired people that love games and are passionate about their work, also able to put coherent ideas forward. There are so many untalented freeloaders at these studios nowadays.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
It's going to get over 100k today later tonight when the good folks get off work and also over 100k tomorrow noon because the biggest peaks are on Saturday and Sunday. So this big budget project is going to paid off!
Angry_Megalodon
Member
This is what I meant by going all-in. They have to decide whether to make a serious commitment of making a ground-breaking game or call it a day. It's up to Sony to decide, this is no longer Bungie's decision.
This would be a PR disaster. If it comes to this, it will be done in a sly manner, not only because of the public humiliation but also (and more importantly) because Hermen's head may be on the line. I doubt he would survive a complete shutdown of Bungie.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Nah, it'll almost certainly hit a higher peak tonight than it did during the week. If it doesn't then that means a huge # of gamers dropped it/refunded it.
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StreetsofBeige
Member
Comparing now to similar hour yesterday (9am EST), the trending is weak. And today is Marathon's first weekend as a brand new game.
Not going to even bother with Slay the Spire 2 as that's already growing. Now at 500k+.
Yesterday it topped out at 78k (vs launch day 88k). It is the weekend, so it's a natural bump. It'll probably hit 80-85k. But Monday it'll drop hard probably down to 60k. Then a steady decline unless there's some big news that props it back up.
Marathon
46.5k vs 43.5k (+3k / +7%)
ARC
134k vs 115k (+19k / +16%)
RE9
153.5k vs 136k (+17.5k / +13%)
Deadlock
70k vs 54k (+16k / +30%)
Delta Force
165.5k vs 162.5k (+3k / +2%)
Apex
224k vs 215k (+9k / +4%)
PUBG
732k vs 705k (+27k / +4%)
Not going to even bother with Slay the Spire 2 as that's already growing. Now at 500k+.
Yesterday it topped out at 78k (vs launch day 88k). It is the weekend, so it's a natural bump. It'll probably hit 80-85k. But Monday it'll drop hard probably down to 60k. Then a steady decline unless there's some big news that props it back up.
Marathon
46.5k vs 43.5k (+3k / +7%)
ARC
134k vs 115k (+19k / +16%)
RE9
153.5k vs 136k (+17.5k / +13%)
Deadlock
70k vs 54k (+16k / +30%)
Delta Force
165.5k vs 162.5k (+3k / +2%)
Apex
224k vs 215k (+9k / +4%)
PUBG
732k vs 705k (+27k / +4%)
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Man pubg what a fucking beast, that's wild... Not into BR but that's wild how that game still cranks
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StreetsofBeige
Member
It's interesting seeing player count and hourly trending. Some games like Slay the Spire and CS2 are huge in Asian region. So peak time gaming is around now as it's the evening there. USA heavy games skew to 8-11 EST. Then ARC skews highest at around 3-5 pm EST. So I'm going to assume that's a high skew to European gamers which is a higher peak than USA peak times.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
It's more for me the age of that game and it holding over 700k, just seems most games really fall off eventually but especially older games and that game is how old now 7 8 years? Just looked 9 years old damn
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
How is slay queen tho?
Instant_Classic
Junior Member
Depends, it can also just match you with any available players from the pool of PS/PC.
StreetsofBeige
Member
Just broke 525k.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Wait, you mean numbers are supposed to go up during the weekend?!
Guardian Monkey
Member
DEckbuilding ps exclusives enroute lets go!!!
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Anecdote that obviously isn't indicative of the game's performance but I found it funny that last night everyone I know who bought it ended up on Hunt: Showdown all night instead. It was like watching dominos fall on my PSN list lol
Moridianae
Member
I feel like there is far more working against this game than is surmountable.
One of the largest(imo) is how inaccessible the game is to a casual player, both in UI and the difficulty of the game from things I've read.
Destiny had an extensive casual playerbase and to choose *not* to find a way to include them is highly questionable, I think.
You also have the dangers of games like this turning into "sweat fests", something CoD was dug into for(but for SBMM on that front).
Many people who work long days are not interested in games like that, they simply are not.
My point is that it's difficult to grow an audience when you automatically choose to cater to something arguably "niche" to begin with.
ARC seemed to find a way to make a game in the same genre, but was able to include features and gameplay that casual players not only found the game easier to be on boarded into, but found things less frustrating than they anticipated so retention was far better.
One of the largest(imo) is how inaccessible the game is to a casual player, both in UI and the difficulty of the game from things I've read.
Destiny had an extensive casual playerbase and to choose *not* to find a way to include them is highly questionable, I think.
You also have the dangers of games like this turning into "sweat fests", something CoD was dug into for(but for SBMM on that front).
Many people who work long days are not interested in games like that, they simply are not.
My point is that it's difficult to grow an audience when you automatically choose to cater to something arguably "niche" to begin with.
ARC seemed to find a way to make a game in the same genre, but was able to include features and gameplay that casual players not only found the game easier to be on boarded into, but found things less frustrating than they anticipated so retention was far better.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Wtf is hunt showdown?
