TerribleAtThisGame
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It's a videogame.
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Marathon releases to 87,000 players on Steam and 87% Positive Reviews (sponsored by coachmcguirk91)
yurinka
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The PSN sales rankings aren't updated in real time considering daily sales, seem to consider past sales (something like being a ranking of the sales made in the last week).
So since RER was released a week before and Marathon got released this week, we already seeing RER sales in the ranking but not the Marathon ones. Marathon still is inside the top sellers ranking where it was before release.
So the only thing we can look so far it's the PSN user reviews, despite still being too early because players take several days to make the reviews and we're comparing a game released a couple days ago vs a game released a week ago.
But so far PSN user reviews are:
RE Requiem: 46146 reviews (4.91 stars)
Marathon: 4308 reviews (4.72 stars)
But again, it's still to early to check the reviews, particularly being a GaaS because in SP games players normally review when completing the game, while in GaaS something that gets valuated is how the game feels after several days (progression, discovery, if it gets too repetitive, if devs listen to feedback and fix stuff etc).
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yeah, that's me pretty much. Not so much the hard work, but kind of just lost that desire to be competitive with others. I feel like I've outgrown versus multiplayer. There was a time when I was ruthless with UT2k4, halo, counter strike, killzone and duty.
Now, I just want to pick up and play in smaller sessions. Preferably games with story, player progression or just fun/simple gameplay.
Von Hugh
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StreetsofBeige
Member
Of course they do. Recent popular games are trending much higher than Marathon. StS2 is at +22% same time period vs yesterday. All the recent games have big bumps, but Marathon is at only +7%.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
Oh no, this is horrible news.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Every time I think of getting into a new PvP game I remember the learning curves, the time investment and that any 13 year old East European kid will mercilessly destroy me. I just end up playing something age appropriate instead like Power Washing Simulator
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I love me some Power Washing Simulator.Every time I think of getting into a new PvP game I remember the learning curves, the time investment and that any 13 year old East European kid will mercilessly destroy me. I just end up playing something age appropriate instead like Power Washing Simulator
peish
Member
i think magic the gathering card game or something like that
StreetsofBeige
Member
That's natural. Youre getting older and growing out of gaming. Not entirely, but it's weening down. And you got sick of playing the same kind of game forever. I'm similar. I played NHL and COD to death and now barely play them. Played a ton during the 16 bit days t around 2020. Now, I prefer cheap indie games most of the time, unless I sink a lot of time into a Bethesda RPG.
And gaming tastes change. I dont see young kids interesting playing WWII hex sims, nor do I expect many 65 year olds itching to play PUBG.
Yes it is truly sad when a service game jumping on the latest trend (extraction here) failsOh no, this is horrible news.
Very sad indeed
ShadyAcshuns
Member
It's weird, turned on my ps5 and nothing. Turned on my series x, marathon adds all in my face at start up.
ToneyJ
Member
Steam is probably
Yup. Character design and appeal matters so so so much, and western devs keep failing because they refuse to make appealing characters, especially female ones, largely because of culture war bullshit. You'd think the successes of Overwatch (launch roster), Mihoyo games, Nier Automata, Stellar Blade, etc would tell them something.They can't attract enough people to populate new games because all the normies are weebs these days, and the weebs have their own anime games now (most of them GaaS too).
When I search for Marathon, all I see is some weird shit. Would I consider playing it? Nah...
Then I look for whatever Asian game comes out soon, and something just clicks - no hesitation, I dive balls deep into yet-another-Chinese-shitstain-of-a-gacha-game, even if it turns out to be crap.
And there are millions of people going through the same experience, judging by revenue/downloads - the numbers are huge compared to the sloppy seconds received by Western GaaS products.
If their goal is to make money, they're doing it wrong.
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That's a disingenoius comparison tho, Dragon Age is, well, it was (rip) one of the biggest RPG on consoles, Marathon as much as they would want to rely on the Bungie brand, is just another GAAS new IP in this niche as hell extraction shooter "genre"
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Let them cook, them them cook!!! Even if you hate the game, shut up, shut the hell up!! CoD96!!!! Yeah, they are cooked alright
Negotiator101
Member
Unless it's doing decent numbers on consoles? Any information on that?
Yeah, they are cooked alright
ValiantInstance
Member
Hovering around 20th on the PS store last I heard, no physical version either.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
They are cooking on console, they are aura farming on console too!!!
Negotiator101
Member
28th on Xbox for paid so even lower overall
basically it's not looking good.
fixed
asdasdasdbb
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Negotiator101
Member
Probably more layoffs but yes they'll survive.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
The last ditch if this is really a failure by Sonys metrics is all hands on Destiny 3.
Destiny 3, COULD, save the studio if it's in demise BUT will Sony give them the time todo it right AND give them a studio lead to keep it on track?
Destiny 2 has so much content and systems at this point that to launch D3 with a fraction would be disastrous. If it has half the content but a lot of new things to see and do it's plausible. Their largest hurdle? The D2 engine is very old now visually repurposing it is a bad move.
Lunareste
Member
Unironically, what is the Chinese gacha game here? That character is cute, makes me want to find out more about herThey can't attract enough people to populate new games because all the normies are weebs these days, and the weebs have their own anime games now (most of them GaaS too).
When I search for Marathon, all I see is some weird shit. Would I consider playing it? Nah...
Then I look for whatever Asian game comes out soon, and something just clicks - no hesitation, I dive balls deep into yet-another-Chinese-shitstain-of-a-gacha-game, even if it turns out to be crap.
And there are millions of people going through the same experience, judging by revenue/downloads - the numbers are huge compared to the sloppy seconds received by Western GaaS products.
If their goal is to make money, they're doing it wrong.
Bitmap Frogs
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They can't attract enough people to populate new games because all the normies are weebs these days, and the weebs have their own anime games now (most of them GaaS too).
When I search for Marathon, all I see is some weird shit. Would I consider playing it? Nah...
Then I look for whatever Asian game comes out soon, and something just clicks - no hesitation, I dive balls deep into yet-another-Chinese-shitstain-of-a-gacha-game, even if it turns out to be crap.
And there are millions of people going through the same experience, judging by revenue/downloads - the numbers are huge compared to the sloppy seconds received by Western GaaS products.
If their goal is to make money, they're doing it wrong.
Maybe I'm the odd one out but to me marathon art is amazing and yet the overdone moe bait you posted feels generic, unambitious.
Autistic_Pancake
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Oof, I think you might be right. It's almost noon on the east coast and the count is only 54K. I have a hard time picturing it soaring to 100K. It doesn't even seem like it'll surpass its 88K peak from a few days ago.
kpopSuperstar
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Bungie employees over 800 people. There is zero chance that Playstation will keep all those people on a payroll until Destiny 3 releases.
ToneyJ
Member
Well if you think of it in just numbers if the average halo 1 dev was 35 years old, they're 60 now and long since retired or moved on. And you already know the culture and types of people that studio hires has changed dramatically since the 2010s.
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Hoho for breakfast
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I wish I could understand the thought process behind the decision to even make a game like this but I just can't. These are the guys that made Destiny and they go from that (which got a lot of shit for sure but in reality was an overall amazing game) to...this. What the hell even is this? I asked that like 2 years ago or whenever this was revealed and I'm still asking that today. Nobody wanted this. It's so frustrating to see absolutely amazing gunplay go to complete waste. And it'll be the devs that will lose their jobs over it and not the morons that decided to greenlight this to begin with.
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Kacho
Gold Member
No. They were already on shaky ground after Lightfall underperformed.
It doesn't change the fact that Marathon is still a game with AAA budgets, and Sony won't be satisfied with ~100k CCU on Steam after acquiring Bungie for $3.6bn.
"Niche" is not an excuse that Sony wants to hear from Bungie.
diffusionx
Gold Member
ARC Raiders got 250,000 people playing the game at launch. I am sure that's the minimum of what Sony expected and why they kept throwing money into this game even as it was getting negative press and stuff.
This is bad.
Saber
Newd Member
They definitivelly burn more money than they should on the marketing side. I guess they didn't felt secure after the first impression.
Last Hearth
Member
I don't think the thought process went any deeper than a bunch of suits at a conference table with a few charts going "that game is making a lot of money, let's make one just like it so we can make the same kind of money"
Spyxos
Member
Yeah, i am probably out. Maps are tiny. The buildings all look the same. There are few to no landmarks. Nobody ever talks. And people usually do their own quests. So the trio groups run off in three different directions. To then die one by one. I can't imagine Marathon surviving three months in this condition.
diffusionx
Gold Member
they also delayed the game six months, they kind of had to because of the plagiarism stuff (how much did that cost to fix?) but also because those betas did not have good impressions. So all of that was more money spent.
Bring it back home.
Plague Doctor
Member
Yep. To struggle to get 1/5th the player count of an indie deck builder game in early access.
They are begging pubs not to review them for 2 weeks.
This is a great look.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
it's much worse that it didn't get close to arc
like sts2, ok a lot of people love the first game, they love rogueshit and cardshit, i get it
but arc is in the same genre, etc.