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[StreetsofBeige]

I don't claim to know how many players it needs to be a viable long-term investment but at what point does Sony start ringing the alarm bells with Marathon?

Now.

Years back they were already gassing people when Marathon was in development and D2 had about 100k+ people playing it. During those content updates, it'd bump to 200-300k CCU. Hard to decipher exactly the trend as Steamdb charts for old years are clumped into large time periods.

Now D2 trends to 5-10k daily and Marathon started at 88k and trending down fast.

The next D2 DLC is June. Going by recent DLCs, it bumps the user base to 50-100k depending which one it was, but then drops fast again. Bungie's past layoffs (two of them) were even after getting those huge spikes above. So even that didnt save them from cuts.

 

[Moondoggy]

While I agree with the Destiny 2 criticisms, I'd still play that anyday over Marathon, at least D2 has actual PvE modes and let's me keep the gear I spend my limited amount of gaming time acquiring, and doesn't just take it away at the end of a season, assuming other players haven't done that already.

 

[TVexperto]

While I agree with the Destiny 2 criticisms, I'd still play that anyday over Marathon, at least D2 has actual PvE modes and let's me keep the gear I spend my limited amount of gaming time acquiring, and doesn't just take it away at the end of a season, assuming other players haven't done that already.

You are right, they are taking away content and missions instead of your gear

 

[Moondoggy]

You are right, they are taking away content and missions instead of your gear

While I agree with the Destiny 2 criticisms, I'd still play that anyday over Marathon, at least D2 has actual PvE modes and let's me keep the gear I spend my limited amount of gaming time acquiring, and doesn't just take it away at the end of a season, assuming other players haven't done that already.

 

[cormack12]

Some games click with gamers. Dead by Daylight has slowly crept UP over the years.

Rust is even bigger. Never followed Rust at all except way back watching some funny video about trap houses. But turns out it has tons of new content.

Looks like everyone's weight tracking during covid

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This is good, impressive even.... Too bad the Internet Army will keep fighting the good fight

 

[crazepharmacist]

Big fan of metaphor.

Looks like competitive fps guys are digging marathon

 

[ByWatterson]

Big fan of metaphor.

Looks like competitive fps guys are digging marathon

Chris on Sacred Symbols LOVES it.

I'm almost to a purchase...

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Big fan of metaphor.

Looks like competitive fps guys are digging marathon

Most of the ones I have bumped into don't seem to be liking it at all, but sure it'll have its fans.

The more I've watched of this game I just couldn't do it, there's Def games I dismissed and eventually came to love but man I can't find anything that makes me want to give it a 2nd try.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Because the game is fucking good. Lol sorry, not sorry.

 

[Branded]

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Because the game is fucking good. Lol sorry, not sorry.

What's the end game?

 

[MMaRsu]

What's the end game?

Endgame? You play games to have fun, not to fill some sort of bar

The game has been out for a week lol

 

[Guardian Monkey]

What's the end game?

You gather loot, upgrade your loadout, and go to different areas for better rewards repeating the cycle each season.

 

[Mondai]

Endgame? You play games to have fun, not to fill some sort of bar

The game has been out for a week lol

So the Endgame sucks then? , just messing around so no lo cojas en serio.

 

[MMaRsu]

So the Endgame sucks then? , just messing around so no lo cojas en serio.

I dunno I assume there is no endgame, I dont play the game

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Honeymoon period

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Endgame? You play games to have fun, not to fill some sort of bar

The game has been out for a week lol

Yea I've platinumed about 30 games recently, I always have fun.

You don't understand what an endgame is and why it's important in these types of games? Getting weapons just to get weapons, rinse and repeat, isn't really an endgame.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I wouldn't say "profitable", I'd say worth the price. And there's no way for Sony to truly know if that $3.6 Billion was "worth the price" until 2030 or so. Keep in mind...........Sony has already written off like $250M from the Bungie purchase, so.....

Technically, the purchase was only "worth" $3.35 Billion. So they are in the hole right now.

You're always "in the hole" with big purchases. That's what long term investments are.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Yea I've platinumed about 30 games recently, I always have fun.

You don't understand what an endgame is and why it's important in these types of games? Getting weapons just to get weapons, rinse and repeat, isn't really an endgame.

Platinums? Who gives a shit about platinums, who are you fucking Greg Miller. lol wtf

 

[EN250]

Some games click with gamers. Dead by Daylight has slowly crept UP over the years.

Rust is even bigger. Never followed Rust at all except way back watching some funny video about trap houses. But turns out it has tons of new content.

Ok, but for D2 is the other way around, they made it a job basically and people got sick of it, so it was time to move on to the next chapter to reinvigorate the franchise, yet they keep going with expansions

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I dunno I assume there is no endgame, I dont play the game

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Platinums? Who gives a shit about platinums, who are you fucking Greg Miller. lol wtf

Man you sound pretty fucking butt hurt man

I care about them obviously

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Not right now

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Man you sound pretty fucking butt hurt man

I care about them obviously

What do platinums have to do with endgame of Marathon? I didn't mention them, you're just talking about random stuff.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

What do platinums have to do with endgame of Marathon? I didn't mention them, you're just talking about random stuff.

I said I have plenty of fun, it's litrelly just me adding to a conversation you fuck

 

[Guardian Monkey]

I said I have plenty of fun, it's litrelly just me adding to a conversation you fuck

Ok sure, you've posted in this thread like 50 times but have no idea what the game is about? What are you adding to the conversation about the CCU about a game that you know nothing of, what's your endgame just banging on the I don't like GAASwagon here?

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Ok sure, you've posted in this thread like 50 times but have no idea what the game is about? What are you adding to the conversation about the CCU about a game that you know nothing of, what's your endgame just banging on the I don't like GAASwagon here?

Yea I know exactly what this game is about, it's about retards named guardian monkey being astronomically butthurt

 

[Kacho]

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Weird there isn't a European dip on Steam tonight. Highly unusual

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Ok sure, you've posted in this thread like 50 times but have no idea what the game is about? What are you adding to the conversation about the CCU about a game that you know nothing of, what's your endgame just banging on the I don't like GAASwagon here?

It truly has been a sorry discourse.

Bulkhead said that Wardogs needs between 3k and 10k CCU to be profitable. They're a 100 person studio based in the UK. Marathon showing killer retention at 55k is supposed to be a flop?

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Yea I know exactly what this game is about, it's about retards named guardian monkey being astronomically butthurt

You got me I am. I'm butt hurt by a 40 some year old posting wrestling memes and hulk hogan tag. My day is ruined, thanks.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

You got me I am. I'm butt hurt by a 40 some year old posting wrestling memes and hulk hogan tag. My day is ruined, thanks.

Apparently so, you're the one that came at me like like a Karen over mentioning platinums. What color panties you have on today?

58k CCU, imagine being part of that

 

[Negotiator101]

It truly has been a sorry discourse.

Bulkhead said that Wardogs needs between 3k and 10k CCU to be profitable. They're a 100 person studio based in the UK. Marathon showing killer retention at 55k is supposed to be a flop?

Is this a joke? Killer retention? It's been out 1 week. It's averaging 50,000 currently and it's dropping every day, are you ok?

 

[MMaRsu]

Steady decline = killer retention

 

[ByWatterson]

58k CCU, imagine being part of that

LOL it's not a political movement

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

LOL it's not a political movement

I agree, It's more like a bowel movement

 

[danklord]

Honeymoon period

I think more so a discovery period. The game is filtering casuals and

Marathon is shaking everything up and the child's first reaction to a new taste is to reject it. But taste can be acquired.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Apparently so, you're the one that came at me like like a Karen over mentioning platinums. What color panties you have on today?

58k CCU, imagine being part of that

"like like a Karen over mentioning platinums" yeah I did. Furthermore it had nothing to do with the discussion of what the endgame Marathon is that you were grilling another member about. As I said before I didn't bring up platinums, you did for some unknown reason and I was asking what the hell you were talking about since it had to do with nothing regarding the topic. So let's stick to the topic shall we?

 

[Loomy]

What's the end game?

Comes out this week.

Apparently so, you're the one that came at me like like a Karen over mentioning platinums. What color panties you have on today?

58k CCU, imagine being part of that

I think a lot of you have a pretty fucked up perspective.

at 58k CCU on Steam, this is the 16th most played game on Steam right now. In the world. Tell me again how that's a bad thing?

Also, tell me which one of the 15 games above it you're putting dozens of hours into right now.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I think more so a discovery period. The game is filtering casuals and

This already happened with the Open Beta.

Marathon is shaking everything up and the child's first reaction to a new taste is to reject it. But taste can be acquired.

The CCU dosent reflect that. (The opposite happened with Arc) The CCU was higher after the game launched.

What we see is, yes, an acquired taste; a product of something new + the honeymoon period. Once all these people start running the same loop after that phase, the game's flaws will start to exacerbate. Right now, there is still some anticipation and excitement to unlock/solve the puzzle for the "endgame map"

4-7 weeks, to see the "real" discourse for this game.

 

[MMaRsu]

Comes out this week.


I think a lot of you have a pretty fucked up perspective.

at 58k CCU on Steam, this is the 16th most played game on Steam right now. In the world. Tell me again how that's a bad thing?

Also, tell me which one of the 15 games above it you're putting dozens of hours into right now.

The end game is one map? Lol

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Comes out this week.


I think a lot of you have a pretty fucked up perspective.

at 58k CCU on Steam, this is the 16th most played game on Steam right now. In the world. Tell me again how that's a bad thing?

Also, tell me which one of the 15 games above it you're putting dozens of hours into right now.

I'm just fucking around mane, it's all good.. I did actually plug some good hours into marvel rivals and forgive me for saying I platinumed It, but I hated overwatch and couldn't get into it but marvel rivals was awesome couldn't put it down.

I'll be busting into Requeim soon as well.

 

[Fake]

Comes out this week.


I think a lot of you have a pretty fucked up perspective.

at 58k CCU on Steam, this is the 16th most played game on Steam right now. In the world. Tell me again how that's a bad thing?

Also, tell me which one of the 15 games above it you're putting dozens of hours into right now.

Sony spend $3,6B on Bungie to create a game that is losing for a indie game by x4 times the playbase. Tell me again how that's a good thing?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Is this a joke? Killer retention? It's been out 1 week. It's averaging 50,000 currently and it's dropping every day, are you ok?

Oh my sweet summer child...

 

[danklord]

This already happened with the Open Beta.

The CCU dosent reflect that. (The opposite happened with Arc) The CCU was higher after the game launched.

What we see is, yes, an acquired taste; a product of something new + the honeymoon period. Once all these people start running the same loop after that phase, the game's flaws will start to exacerbate. Right now, there is still some anticipation and excitement to unlock/solve the puzzle for the "endgame map"

4-7 weeks, to see the "real" discourse for this game.

Valid take.

My speculation is once the core audience is established, if they can stick the landing, they will generate a significant buzz with word of mouth that could trigger more people jump in.

 

[HRK69]

Comes out this week.


I think a lot of you have a pretty fucked up perspective.

at 58k CCU on Steam, this is the 16th most played game on Steam right now. In the world. Tell me again how that's a bad thing?

Also, tell me which one of the 15 games above it you're putting dozens of hours into right now.

Nobody claimed Marathon's #16 is the worst thing ever. The point is it's underwhelming for a hyped $40 AAA extraction shooter from Bungie

 

[Loomy]

The end game is one map? Lol

Imagine asking when Vault of Glass came out "The end game is 1 raid?"

4-7 weeks, to see the "real" discourse for this game.

I agree that we'll get the first hints of its stating power in a couple of months. So we can put off calling it dead for another 6 -10 weeks? lol?

Sony spend $3,6B on Bungie to create a game that is losing for a indie game by x4 times the playbase. Tell me again how that's a good thing?

You think Sony expected Marathon alone to make up the acquisition cost in a year?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Valid take.

My speculation is once the core audience is established, if they can stick the landing, they will generate a significant buzz with word of mouth that could trigger more people jump in.

Well, that's the challenge. So far, player retention is very good. The difficulty and this "hardcore PvP" buzz around it will work against that (acquiring more players).

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Imagine asking when Vault of Glass came out "The end game is 1 raid?"


I agree that we'll get the first hints of its stating power in a couple of months. So we can put off calling it dead for another 6 -10 weeks? lol?


You think Sony expected Marathon alone to make up the acquisition cost in a year?

I think what is meant by end game and at least for me is like Destiny we knew the end game was getting better gear for raids and for pvp. There was always a more grand purpose to the end game or acquiring gear and making better builds,same with Diablo for example you grind for higher and better gear, higher nightmare modes etc or to land the perfect build etc..

Marathon from what I see it seems like extraction in itself, is the end game... Get some better guns to kill maybe quicker or more efficiently perhaps. But to me I would still think that in itself would flat line but thats just me