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[MLiD] Why XBOX Helix is Still (Kinda) a Console

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KeplerL2 say no.
SneakersSO too?

MLID's contact is quite "relevant" or "reliable" regarding PS hardware.
But for the rest... I'm not sure.
 
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It's gonna be locked PC box without any commands for you to open a terminal or CMD and has the ability to play your Xbox games via backward compatibility emulator.

Whenever you buy a game there, you will also see it on the PC Xbox app
 
The title of the video is so familiar. Xbox is poised to, yet again, take over the industry. It's pretty tiresome, but also funny to see that even Steam is being dragged into the console warrior mindset.
 
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//DEVIL// said:
It's gonna be locked PC box without any commands for you to open a terminal or CMD and has the ability to play your Xbox games via backward compatibility emulator.

Whenever you buy a game there, you will also see it on the PC Xbox app
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If it supports Steam and they expect it not to just totally fail at many games it'll need to expose the desktop.
 
IntentionalPun said:
If it supports Steam and they expect it not to just totally fail at many games it'll need to expose the desktop.
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Not gonna happen. It will allow you to install steam client or epic. But it will be in the back end . You won't see anything. You won't have a browser and go there on your own. Just an app icon for you as a UI. It will go grab link and install it on its own without you seeing anything but probably a loading screen or download bar

Think of it as a very restricted windows PC you find in a library or a work company with a limited access to specific apps. But with Xbox app interface on top
 
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Not gonna happen. It will allow you to install steam client or epic. But it will be in the back end . You won't see anything. You won't have a browser and go there on your own. Just an app icon for you as a UI. It will go grab link and install it on its own without you seeing anything but probably a loading screen or download bar

Think of it as a very restricted windows PC you find in a library or a work company with a limited access to specific apps. But with Xbox app interface on top
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Like Heroic Launcher? Just input your Epic password and.... Hey my account has been stolen.
 
PauloRoberto said:
I knew we are a bunch of idiots, but trying to deny the really after an official statement is simply retardation.
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You haven't seen how often people across the board deny official statements, sources, footage, and evidence to believe what they want to believe or jump to conclusions before more information is reached?
 
Even microsoft itself does not concern about its identity, call it what you like until you find you need manage some "windows" update and Xbox mode is a iteration of Full Screen Experience
 
//DEVIL// said:
Not gonna happen. It will allow you to install steam client or epic. But it will be in the back end . You won't see anything. You won't have a browser and go there on your own. Just an app icon for you as a UI. It will go grab link and install it on its own without you seeing anything but probably a loading screen or download bar

Think of it as a very restricted windows PC you find in a library or a work company with a limited access to specific apps. But with Xbox app interface on top
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It's the games that do various things during installation I'm talking about including installing launchers and anti-cheat and all kinds of stuff. Microsoft can't really do anything about that but let things break if they don't play nice with their trimmed down Windows.
 
If it IS a very open console, I mean. I hope those who buy it know it means people are probably going to hack and cheat constantly and run unapproved code on the thing since the hardware wont really be "nailed down" will it?" I would be shocked if it were not basically just as hellscape immediately - I mean I am half kidding but not FULLY kidding. Personally to me it would make it MORE interesting if I can just run whatever the hell I want on it like a PC and download mods for my games... Or I should say... it WOULD make it interesting if PCs didnt exist and allow me to fully customize and know I can run any code I want... I am nitpicking here but I mean, if they make it too much NOT a console and ask us to place it in our livingrooms for our family to use and kids to dig at and for it to "Just work" I hope they have that all sorted out from the get-go but... knowing microsoft.... kind of... have worries. I skipped the Xbox Series generation but was onboard all the way up to my Xbox One X (frickin love that thing even if its just for the backward compatibility - gamepass WAS awesome back when it was more unique to the machine)... .we will see.
 
March Climber said:
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You haven't seen how often people across the board deny official statements, sources, footage, and evidence to believe what they want to believe or jump to conclusions before more information is reached?
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Yeah, and that makes be baffled! In a matter of weeks we saw

- Sony annoucing that GOY was better than GOT and some users denying that and trying to prove the opposite.
- Nitnendo announced that SW2 was selling like the expected in some international markets and some users almost wanted to punch me when I highlighted that
- MS literally put the blame on xbox on the last quarter and some users were trying to convince that xbox is more healthly than PS
- Now MS literally annouce that a dev must focus on PC and this new device is a console for some

What is going on? Do some users wanna to confirm those shady studies that videogames make you stupid ?! :-D
 
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IntentionalPun said:
It's the games that do various things during installation I'm talking about including installing launchers and anti-cheat and all kinds of stuff. Microsoft can't really do anything about that but let things break if they don't play nice with their trimmed down Windows.
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IF i have to guess, they will allow whatever steam wants to do at the back end. its you who they want to block access to. at the end of the day its a windows, it will do its thing. but they wont give you control to open or access terminal or regdit or anything.

The only thing that I can see a problem is if someone lets say develop a game that in theory, is an app that allow you to open the CMD for example within that game in order to access the box.

I am not really sure that is something possible. if its still locked ( or even deleted within the windows xbox it self. )

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole commands like this doesnt even exist on these things unless its a dev kit or whatever.
 
➡️IMO⬅️. If you can purchase a Helix and stay 100% in console mode taking advantage new features and never having to break out of that for any reason. No update, no driver issue, no store switching, not anything. I will agree it is a console. If you are forced or coerced into the desktop mode to get the benefit of new features. It is a PC with an Xbox launcher. This includes purchasing games for other storefronts. If one of the bullet points is our new console plays Steam games, then it needs to be able to do it without the desktop.
 
PauloRoberto said:
Yeah, and that makes be baffled! In a matter of weeks we saw

- Sony annoucing that GOY was better than GOT and some users dening that and trying to prove.
- Nitnendo announced taht SW2 was selling like the expected in some international markets and some users almost wanted to punch me when I highlighted that
- MS literally put the blame on xbox on the last quarter amd some users were trying to convince that xbox is more healthly than PS
- Now MS literally annouce that a dev must focus on PC and this new device is a console for some

What is going on? Do some users wanna to confirm those shady stuies that videogames make you stupid ?! :-D
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It has been like this since Covid. Far too many people online, for far too much screen time, and far too many grifters taking advantage of that.

It also doesn't help that some places removed their guard rails and lowered moderation.

Unfortunately all you can do, like the rest of us who look up further information, is to cope.
 
//DEVIL// said:
Not gonna happen. It will allow you to install steam client or epic. But it will be in the back end . You won't see anything. You won't have a browser and go there on your own. Just an app icon for you as a UI. It will go grab link and install it on its own without you seeing anything but probably a loading screen or download bar

Think of it as a very restricted windows PC you find in a library or a work company with a limited access to specific apps. But with Xbox app interface on top
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This sounds feasible, although I haven't the foggiest how they'll do it.
 
Has the world gone mad?

It's a box that has a PC OS on it and can natively play PC games....how is that not a PC? What then makes it a console?

The fact that it can play native Xbox games?

Unless I am grossly mistaken, the singular distinguishing thing between a console and a PC is that one is a closed platform, and the other isn't.

So please, again, how is the next Xbox not a PC?
 
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Ehh I hope they don't go with that messaging or people will think its "Just a console" and limited in its capabilities. Its a console/PC hybrid. Sony was able to strike that balance with PS2/DVD and PS3/Blu Ray player and consumers just understood.

Also no shit. If it plays Xbox games its a console.
 
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