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[Bojji]

Right, but my point is that there's no way next gen consoles have the horsepower to enshittify games like this anyway. I think that's a pipe dream at this point.

Yeah, probably. We don't know how final DLSS5 version will run on current gen cards this fall.

 

[tamago84]

The soccer one looked ok

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

People are crashing out. But....

So... Peope just need to shut the fuck up. Am I right?

 

[HRK69]

Dumbass luddites are calling everything AI related slop. Slop, slop slop. Sloppity slop.

Maybe they think they are getting som kind of street cred by doing so...

 

[Gaiff]

 

[TrebleShot]

If you're upset about this I have some bad news for you about PS6 /PS6P & Xbox Next

Yep and wider society, the change we are going through right now has been labelled as being akin to the industrial revolution, the invention of Electricity and in fact the invention of the wheel.

This isnt a bubble that bursts. its a revolution thats only just starting.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Honestly the reaction to this is why I can't the internet seriously anymore. Everyone was for increased fidelity and detail until the doomer luddite movement started saying AI slop.

"Excuse me!? That medicine developed with AI?!" "Sorry I won't take it!, smash these two herbs together"

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Right, but my point is that there's no way next gen consoles have the horsepower to enshittify games like this anyway. I think that's a pipe dream at this point.

next gen consoles were a generation behind when the p5/series launched as the 300x series just launched, nothing changed.

 

[Gusy]

Not a fan of what this does to human / biological characters.

But would love to see Flight Sim 2024 running with this turned on.

I think we have to look a bit past these initial demos. This thing is going to improve at a geometric rate in the next decade and is going to allow incredible real time experiences in a few years. I wouldn't use this initial version while playing Starfield today.... but the potential on display is actually amazing.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

The photo realistic look plus a dose of style of Grace and Leon in RE Requiem PT remains better than the A.I filter of DLSS 5.

 

[Sethbacca]

next gen consoles were a generation behind when the p5/series launched as the 300x series just launched, nothing changed.

Right, but I was responding initially earlier in the thread to someone saying we should get used to this for PS6 and Xbox Next. Which I have been saying wouldn't be powerful enough to do this kind of thing anyway. It's gonna be limited to very high end PCs only for the next handful of years just based on it's power needs. Maybe by PS7 gen, but certainly not this next one.

 

[Bojji]

 

[Radical_3d]

"And it only needs two 5090s!"

 

[captainnapalm]

Why even call this DLSS - this is such a dramatic departure from anything DLSS has done before. This is something else.

I have no doubt that there are some major technological leaps being achieved here to be able to alter real-time graphics like this - and eventually the tech will be valuable. But for now I'll stick to 4.5 lol - now that's a good product.

 

[kevboard]

Not saying that you are wrong, but I think you are making a lot of assumptions here about a technology that we know only a few things so far

what was shown very much tells us what this thing does. and it does apply a screen space based filter... that's it.

Lumen is hardly a benchmark for realtime GI, so it might not look correct in the first place. Maybe DLSS 5 is the correct way to light the scene using the Sun as a lightsource, but some parameters are off 'cause it's Nvidia, not actual devs giving a shit about how it should look (like changing it to a more warmer look etc.)

Lumen is low fidelity, but it isn't so low that it can't calculate where the sun is positioned or where a shadow should be.

DLSS5 completely changing the lighting conditions based on purely screen space based information, is clearly wrong in that example.

and we know it's purely screen space based due to other examples shown where NPCs obscure an object, and DLSS5 breaking apart as the object casting the shadow is now gone from view.

We shall see how it goe when actually used by devs.

It's new tech (when used in realtime games) and I can't not be excited about it, even if it turns out to be shit. We shall see,

it takes currently 2 5090s to run properly, and only applys a screen filter...
this will never be good

 

[Dacvak]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, I think this looks insane. The differences in RE9 are absolutely crazy. It looks amazing.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Right, but I was responding initially earlier in the thread to someone saying we should get used to this for PS6 and Xbox Next. Which I have been saying wouldn't be powerful enough to do this kind of thing anyway. It's gonna be limited to very high end machines only for the next handful of years just based on it's power needs.

oh yeah, ps6 etc will be frame gen and fsr4 as the big items probably.

 

[pudel]

DLSS5 will end wokeness.

Would be sick if you as a player could change the look of a character...

 

[TrebleShot]

People are crashing out. But....

So... Peope just need to shut the fuck up. Am I right?

This guy is absolutely clueless, i was watching his stream the other day as he smigly proclaimed AI hasnt even figured out chess yet...

Google AI in landmark victory over Go grandmaster

Fan Hui, three-time champion of the east Asian board game, lost to DeepMind’s program AlphaGo in five straight games

www.theguardian.com

This was 10 years ago, GO is infinitely more complex than chess, ai was able to beat a grand master at chess in 1996

 

[Senua]

Oh man my brain is gonna implode. The shots of vistas look incredible but the characters have the classic uncanny valley AI look. Maybe it'll be on a game by game basis. I think it's insane but I'm not sure about it.

Jensen you mad man

 

[damidu]

Dumbass luddites are calling everything AI related slop. Slop, slop slop. Sloppity slop.

Maybe they think they are getting som kind of street cred by doing so...

its literal slop filter. lol
all the characters from variety of genres now all have the same plastic look you'd find in every slop clip basically.

 

[GOKUSSJ2]

 

[Lorianus]

Would like to see what it does to cartoony art and games with anime artstyle, is it just ignoring the style and switching on the slop filter like AI hentai on 4chan or something.

 

[Darsxx82]

Impressive.

 

[PeteBull]

As a poor rtx 5080 peasant(16gigs of vram be forever damned), its time to tighten our belts, boys and start saving for 60xx series card in 2027:

 

[walter568]

Uncanny Valley Generator.

 

[seb85]

Time to go back to AMD

 

[DeepEnigma]

Too much estrogen in this lad's system.

 

[Radical_3d]

I expect John to be completely against this (but verbalize it subtly as "it generates doubts/it needs to be discussed").

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Wow, he must love Hogwarts Legacy
.. You know?... A game for gays.

 

[Mortisfacio]

its literal slop. lol
all the characters from variety of genres now all have the same plastic look you'd find in every slop clip basically.

Yah but imagine the future of this tech. For now everyone gets the same AI face filter, but long term "make her a goth girl with tig ol bitties". Every game can be a gooner game now.

 

[Senua]

What's happening?

 

[damidu]

dude needs to have his annual twitter meltdown, its like clockwork at this point.

 

[nkill20]

Crash out incoming.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

so is this why all the hentai games on steam were getting banned in preparation for dlss5 rollout? this shit seems crazy.

 

[Mr Moose]

Nah, there's some fake shit going on there with those RE faces, they completely change. It's no longer AI upscaling, it's shitty AI faces.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

but dlss5 looks awesome on CRTs...

 

[Gonzito]

This is what happens when you are active in that shithole. Retardera is having a meltdown and people are unsubscribing to their channel there lol

 

[Bojji]

Is this real?

As a poor rtx 5080 peasant(16gigs of vram be forever damned), its time to tighten our belts, boys and start saving for 60xx series card in 2027:

Maybe with 480p output?

 

[GooseMan69]

Insane.

Yes, insane how the character looks like a different person now.

 

[Senua]

Is this real?

What is the context? I dno how to use shitty blue sky

 

[Gaiff]

Too much estrogen in this lad's system.

Manliness is definitely a spectrum. On one end, you got legendary men like Ragnar Lothbrok or Genghis Khan. On the other end, you got John Linneman and Jason Schrier.

 

[daninthemix]

As a poor rtx 5080 peasant(16gigs of vram be forever damned), its time to tighten our belts, boys and start saving for 60xx series card in 2027:

Same here. I've started using carrier bags for pants to save money.

 

[Mr Moose]

What's this about?

 

[Stuart360]

AI slop!. Looks amazing though.

Nvidia keeps on winning.

 

[zapper]

wow

Spoiler

 

[IntentionalPun]

Cerny already talked about using ML for lighting

And this isn't just lighting.

 

[poppabk]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, I think this looks insane. The differences in RE9 are absolutely crazy. It looks amazing.

If this was being done with pure raster and ray tracing people would be beyond super excited.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Yes, insane how the character looks like a different person now.

Exactly, it's not amazing, it's something completely different

If I put side by side a photo of an apple and an orange it's not an amazing result

They are just different

 

[Karim]

What a relief. Thankfully this time it seems he doesn't take this stuff too personally.