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[SlimySnake]

He's so over dramatic. Left gaf apparently for petty reasons as well. He had a bluesky before everyone else as well.

i was there when he left gaf. we all immediately stood up for him, literally called out the guy for being rude immediately and the mods even banned the guy in a flash, and yet John saw the dude get banned and decided to leave anyway. Super lame.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

New drinking game:

Take a shot every time the sheep say "AI slop"

Wating for a AI song about it

 

[damidu]

Is it exclusive to 50 series cards?

hopefully exclusive to "rtx6090-52gb edition" or something, so i wont have to worry about it ever.

 

[BennyBlanco]

John making this all about himself is hilarious.

This really gave me a good laugh. What a bitch. Won't somebody think of the tech YouTubers?!?

Who gives a fuck. If you don't like this technology then just say that. Nobody cares.

 

[epicurius-seven]

"All Unreal Engine games look the same"

NVIDIA: "Hold my beer..."

 

[LiquidMetal14]

You can have your memes until this ships but this is very interesting tech it it changes how it can leverage making it easier for devs in any way.

Of course I don't want AI to make games and render this without dev input but I hope anyone rational will know that it's up to the devs in how the develop this with their games and specific use cases in mind.

 

[nemiroff]

What does any of that have to do with dlss5? People losing their damn minds..

It's super-weird. Some of these people actually posts sensible post otherwise, so it's sad to see them lose their shit like this. It's so silly.

I could understand it if FromSoftware integrated lazy "filters" on top of their own art before shipping their games, but this is not that. It's just Nvidia making general demos and examples like they always have. I doubt the studios and devs have been involved much here, if at all.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

So it's just a super fancy lighting filter and they can adjust how it works?

These new DLSS modes will have a large range of options to adjust it to fit the way you want it then, kinda neat.

 

[cormack12]

John convening an emergency DF meeting

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Doubt anyone will read that, but looks like Nvidia are just showing you how things could look. Devs have complete control.

I read that earlier but who has time for that when memes have to be made!

 

[Midn1ght]

 

[Insane Metal]

Honestly it looks janky and wonky as fuck, but that is basically just proof of concept at the moment. I bet it'll look amazing with time.

 

[MMaRsu]

We appreciate your excitement guys!!

 

[cripterion]

It can only improve from there.

 

[SlimySnake]

I was shocked to see Youtube comments saying that DF should apologize (?)

They are just covering new tech. How people can be this stupid?

Yes, the tech IS impressive. The results are another thing entirely.

Blame Nvidia if you want to blame someone for DLSS 5

People are stupid in general. They are lashing out at DF because DF has turned into a joke of their former selves praising every big game like the second coming. This hatred is a bit misguided but its happening because consumer resentment towards their hype oriented coverage been building up for a while now. they caught flack just recently over the crimson desert pro coverage, and the handwaving of the 720p console versions of high on life 2.

 

[Bojji]

We appreciate your excitement guys!!

But they confirmed that they control the output.

 

[manlisten]

These tools could be revolutionary for game development and game presentation assuming they're used responsibly. But in the way that UE5 games start to look generic and samey, and start to take on a certain "look" that you can spot from a mile away... I just fear we're headed down the same path with this stuff. Devs shortcutting the creative process and just pushing slop out the door to turn a buck is a future i'm not too excited for.

That image of Grace looks like it was pulled directly out of Midjourney and slapped into the game. It's the classic "attractive, AI-generated girl with waxy skin and a thousand yard stare" look that you can find all over Pinterest right now. I have a hard enough time avoiding that stuff on the internet, I don't need it in my games. Make something unique with these tools and then let's talk.

 

[BennyBlanco]

When it doesn't touch character models it looks great IMO. It's gonna be case by case basis and only improve. And it's gonna take an enormous amount of VRAM to accomplish so idk what their plan is.

 

[Jam Dingo]

RE9 example is specifically awful because RE characters have distinct Capcom touch. They are highly detailed and stylized at the same time, they are 'anime' just enough to be believable but still distinctly Resident Evil. Especially female characters like Ada, Grace or children.

Nvidia slop demo just erased decades of artistic and stylistic legacy in one beautiful AI touch.

Yeah Grace basically looks like some kind of manga babe brought to life. She's like some idealised version of a woman. So the model, when lit properly like this, is just going to unavoidably have that "AI slop" (cliche alert!) look to it. So that's unfortunate in terms of confusing the sheep who keep bleating about how AI will destroy all art. But the underlying improvement in the rendering is still HUGE.

 

[Tarnpanzer]

Is it exclusive to 50 series cards?

It uses neural shaders. Only RTX5000 cards have these, so yes.

 

[bender]

But they confirmed that they control the output.

Until I finish developing my DLSS5 override that will be trained only using photos of Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap.

 

[yogaflame]

This made me laugh this AI looking or with added make up look But the silver lining is this might help to fix those uglified characters due to twisted dei design crap

 

[viveks86]

Ok I just read this part:

DLSS 5 provides game developers with detailed controls for intensity, color grading and masking, so artists can determine where and how enhancements are applied to maintain each game's unique aesthetic.

This is not enough. Like... at all. This is going to end up in the garbage bin after the novelty wears off. I'm sure the AI bros will turn it on for every game and forget what the original even looked like. Meanwhile, the game's animation will look 3 generations behind and the uncanny valley will turn most people off.

Devs need to be able to provide their entire concept art and prerendered footage as input. Not a bunch of predefined sliders. Lol. Wake me up in another 5 -10 years!

 

[MMaRsu]

When it doesn't touch character models it looks great IMO. It's gonna be case by case basis and only improve. And it's gonna take an enormous amount of VRAM to accomplish so idk what their plan is.

It looks like dogwater

 

[justiceiro]

The definition of uncanny valley has just been updated.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is it exclusive to 50 series cards?

Cards, as in plural, yes.

(It was running on dual 5090s)

 

[Hugare]

People are stupid in general. They are lashing out at DF because DF has turned into a joke of their former selves praising every big game like the second coming. This hatred is a bit misguided but its happening because consumer resentment towards their hype oriented coverage been building up for a while now. they caught flack just recently over the crimson desert pro coverage, and the handwaving of the 720p console versions of high on life 2.

Sorry, but I dont know a tech oriented channel who doesn't hype new tech. They are just an easier target because they are the biggest gaming tech oriented channel. No matter the end results, its seriously impressive tech that could revolutionize gaming.

The Crimson Desert drama was also idiotic. Pearl Abyss sent them a Pro for testing, but didnt send other consoles. They wouldnt be able to cover them even if they wanted to. But again: people are idiots.

 

[DavidGzz]

Ty A.I. for finally giving us a generational leap again. Based Nvidia.

 

[Jam Dingo]

"DLSS 5 is the GPT moment for graphics — blending hand-crafted rendering with generative AI"

It's literally using Generative AI

It's not just a lightning change.

Not every game needs to look 'hyper realistic' with this horrible filter applied to it.

It's using generative AI to apply realistic lighting you dumbo.

It's a lighting change AND gen AI - or rather the former via the latter.

 

[owandeseis]

John making this all about himself is hilarious.

Lmao the drama queens, i mean it was a laughable announcement, we got great memes, there will always be some ratkids flaming DF or whatever, ignore it or don't log into twitter or whatever social media you are on for a couple days and that's it lol, i can't with these "Worst day ever " vibes

 

[Tarnpanzer]

It can only improve from there.

It will. Remember FSR1 or DLSS1? Those were also subpar in the beginning. Look how both evolved over time.

 

[MMaRsu]

It's using generative AI to apply realistic lighting you dumbo.

It's a lighting change AND gen AI - or rather the former via the latter.

Sure sure it's only the lightning bro, nevermind the face is totally different

Jesus fcking cucking christ am I taking crazy pills here or what

 

[Draugoth]

We can officially call this sloptracing.

There's no fucking way it will look remotely the same as in the previews

 

[cripterion]

Sure sure it's only the lightning bro, nevermind the face is totally different

Jesus fcking cucking christ am I taking crazy pills here or what

She looks much better with DLSS 5. Don't see where the issue is.
Don't want it? Don't use it.

 

[TrebleShot]

This really gave me a good laugh. What a bitch. Won't somebody think of the tech YouTubers?!?

Who gives a fuck. If you don't like this technology then just say that. Nobody cares.

That's not actually him is it lol

 

[bitbydeath]

This going to put a nail in RT?

 

[cormack12]

This outrage will fade as well. People took to fake resolution, then fake frames, fake lighting or fake pathing is the next step.

5090 bro's will run it while saying they don't, owners of cards that struggle or cant do it will continue the crusade until they get a compatible card then have an 'epiphany'.

 

[simpatico]

To me, this is adding stuff that was never on a computer at Capcom.

 

[drotahorror]

Bullshit

If devs want complete control, they simply disable this shit

DLSS 5.0 is made to create things on the fly that were never intended by the creators

Otherwise, why the fuck use it?

Are you helping develop it? You seem to know a lot more than everyone else.

 

[Draugoth]

This outrage will fade as well. People took to fake resolution, then fake frames, fake lighting or fake pathing is the next step.

5090 bro's will run it while saying they don't, owners of cards that struggle or cant do it will continue the crusade until they get a compatible card then have an 'epiphany'.

There's no reason to use this over DLSS 4.5. It destroys the game's visual identity and it's clearly extremely demanding hardware wise.

 

[Jam Dingo]

So it's just a super fancy lighting filter and they can adjust how it works?

These new DLSS modes will have a large range of options to adjust it to fit the way you want it then, kinda neat.

It's not a filter. It's more like lighting acceleration. It uses inference to analyse an image and add extra lighting fidelity, so extra shadows, better occlusion, light scattering etc. It's really just like DLSS but for lighting quality instead of resolution: takes solid but incomplete data and fills in the blanks via hugely complex alogorithms.

 

[drotahorror]

Go ahead and believe they'll magically make this efficient enough in mere months so that a GPU rendering a game in Path Tracing can use this without a performance hit.

Who said it would be free? Obviously it's going to have an impact. All of the nvidia AI shit has an impact.

 

[Esquie]

This is absolutely amazing technology. People who think this clashes with the artistic intent: they're not changing any assets here you know! It LOOKS like that because the lighting improvement is SO dramatic!

It's basically how those games would look if you applied CG level path tracing to them. You're talking a couple of generations of RT improvement in a single step. It's a gigantic step forward for rendering.

A lot of AI hate in this thread. It looks like a true generational leap that we haven't seen in a decade. This tech was always coming. Look at my post history. The implementation will require developers to have control of the model trained on their own high fidelity assets.

Yeah, there's gonna be devs who use off the shelf slop to make their games look hyper detailed without any effort. But the ceiling for detailed, curated, immersive worlds just went to the sky and it isnt coming back down.

I agree with you both. I'm a little bummed at these replies. This tech is absolutely fucking incredible, like holy fucking shit. Whoever coined the term "AI slop" has set us back a decade. I can't wait until that's finally out of use. It's such a stupid, lazy, luddite response.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Are you helping develop it? You seem to know a lot more than everyone else.

Are you a NVIDIA shill?

You seem to like everything they give you....

Even shit like this

 

[bender]

This outrage will fade as well. People took to fake resolution, then fake frames, fake lighting or fake pathing is the next step.

Thank God* I'm a robot.

*Mom from Mom's Friendly Robots.

 

[MMaRsu]

She looks much better with DLSS 5. Don't see where the issue is.
Don't want it? Don't use it.

She absolutely does not LOOK BETTER

But its nice to confirm some people really have zero fucking taste or eyeballs I guess

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I don't think it will stop here... gradually the future is clearly bending towards a pipeline where the game engine itself maintains very low-fidelity rendering to maintain game consistency and control, but all the details and aesthetics migrate to an ML layer on top. The former will keep shrinking, the latter will keep growing.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

This going to put a nail in RT?

I would imagine that rt is used for the lighting vectors to be used to apply. It has to know where the sources are, right?

 

[Karuyag]

To me, this is adding stuff that was never on a computer at Capcom.

Like make up and bigger lips.. and a nose job?

And that street light no longer producing lighting?

 

[realcool]