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Jordan Peterson MIA again, indefinitely

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We figured out that dad has a psych med induced neurological injury, and has been suffering from akathisia. It's been 6 years since any psych medications. Last summer his symptoms started, after a flare up likely induced by mold (CIRS) and stress. It was complicated by pneumonia and associated sepsis a month later. It's been horrible. Neurological injuries from psych meds are far more common than people know. I made this video to explain what they are and what akathisia is because they're not talked about enough, they're misdiagnosed, nearly impossible to treat, and hidden by the pharmaceutical industry. I don't plan on making another update about my dad, it stresses my family out, and myself, and there's nothing more to say about it until things get better. I will be jumping up and down about psych med injury awareness from now on as it's impacted my health as well, and is devastating. Prayers are appreciated still.


Last time she flew him to Russia and put him in a medically induced coma that he almost didn't survive, in order to withdraw from benzodiazepines. And now this…
 
Shame, although I kinda burned out (a lot) on JBP and he was a shell of his former self these last years I do hope he get well soon.
 
TommyCronin6969 said:
That's what culture wars does to you when you're arguing with demonic cunts.
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One side wanted him out the way the other side wanted to use him for their own gains.

I always loved the simply beauty of "Tidy up your room" it was very hard to corrupt and use it to further some cause instead it focused individuals on helping themselves. I guess that's why they tried so hard to destroy him over the years. Sadly we are all human and put enough stress onto someone and we all break eventually. Peterson has been exposed to a lot of individual peoples suffering over the years, that must take its toll.

No idea what all that gobbledygook is about in the tweet, sounds like someone that diagnosis themselves with google, why would he be on psych medications?
 
EviLore said:
Akathisia presenting seven years after discontinuing benzo use? Because of mold exposure? None of this makes any sense.
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It didn't make sense for me ever since he said he didn't sleep for 25 days as a result of an apple cider reaction, which is why he went on an all carnivore diet, which conveniently was the same one his daughter was on and gaining clout for on her podcast.

Plus, doubling down on the akathisia stuff that already seemed suspicious from the Time article, and blaming a big pharma coverup as a hinderance to one's semi-conflict of interest self-diagnosis is also rather sketchy.

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Jordan Peterson on his depression, drug dependency and Russian rehab hell

I thought this was going to be a normal interview with Jordan Peterson. After speaking with him at length, and with his daughter for even longer, I no longer ha
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He's been on the mend for quite a bit of time now, well over a year. It's a shame because after he was ill last time, it took him a while, but then he started touring again and going on podcasts again and it seemed like he was close to 100%. Then he randomly disappeared some time ago and they were pretty mum on what was going on.

He's mentioned before he apparently has some type of a severe inflammatory disease where he said he literally can't eat anything other than red meat or his body becomes intolerable. And all he can drink is water and maybe a couple other things I think. I remember him saying one time he had a small sip of alcohol and it put him out of commission for a few weeks.

He just seems to have a lot of medical issues going on. As someone who deals with chronic inflammatory issues I know how brutal they can be. At the same time the way they've always spoken about it leaves me with the impression he may have never been formally diagnosed. I don't know that for certain though. I hope he's actually getting real care and not being treated by Google. His daughter seems like a nice person, but on some things she's a little out there.
 
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Such a shame. Loved this early talks ("So what you're saying…") and his Rules for Life book but he wasn't the same ever since he returned from first crash. He should have stayed away from the limelight then. Was surprised to read that he was always on Benzos to get through it. Wild… Seen what that shit does to people. This is not meant to be taken all the time.

Wish him all the best. I hope he stays away from everything if he gets better.
 
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Akathasia can come from different antipsychotics, especially risperidone. I think there's a warning in the table of contents and the medicated is always encouraged to immediately contact the doctor if he starts getting symtoms like restlessness and involuntary movement. Don't know what could have caused this as he should, as a professional, been aware of the first symptoms. Anyway I hope he pulls through, but the whole things seems weird.
 
JimmyRustler said:
Such a shame. Loved this early talks ("So what you're saying…") and his Rules for Life book but he wasn't the same ever since he returned from first crash. He should have stayed away from the limelight then. Was surprised to read that he was always on Benzos to get through it. Wild… Seen what that shit does to people. This is not meant to be taken all the time.

Wish him all the best. I hope he stays away from everything if he gets better.
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Yeah I really liked his earlier lectures and podcasts. I was disappointed when he got more involved with Daily Wire and US politics. I think that really cheapened his message. It should be bigger than politics.

Also gotta say his podcast became really frustrating to listen to. He's a great lecturer but a terrible interviewer. SO MANY times his guest will be on the cusp of making some fascinating point and I'm listening intently, then Jordan will just cut them off mid-sentence and probe in some completely different direction, or go off on one of his talking points that you've heard 100x before.
 
DonkeyPunchJr said:
Yeah I really liked his earlier lectures and podcasts. I was disappointed when he got more involved with Daily Wire and US politics. I think that really cheapened his message. It should be bigger than politics.

Also gotta say his podcast became really frustrating to listen to. He's a great lecturer but a terrible interviewer. SO MANY times his guest will be on the cusp of making some fascinating point and I'm listening intently, then Jordan will just cut them off mid-sentence and probe in some completely different direction, or go off on one of his talking points that you've heard 100x before.
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Well said. Stopped following his podcasts because of this. His interview with Elon was especially hard to watch.
 
His book helped pull my brother out of a decade of being locked in his bedroom playing video games. He now has a career, a girlfriend and a house, so I will always be personally indebted to JBP.

His first step to recovery should be to ditch that crazy ass daughter of his.
 
GnomeChimpsky said:
His book helped pull my brother out of a decade of being locked in his bedroom playing video games. He now has a career, a girlfriend and a house, so I will always be personally indebted to JBP.

His first step to recovery should be to ditch that crazy ass daughter of his.
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Agree, had a lot of impact in my life too, on my lates 20s.
 
GnomeChimpsky said:
His book helped pull my brother out of a decade of being locked in his bedroom playing video games. He now has a career, a girlfriend and a house, so I will always be personally indebted to JBP.

His first step to recovery should be to ditch that crazy ass daughter of his.
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Yeah he definitely played a decent part in my late 20s too on putting me on a path of self responsibility, self reliance and navigating through a very difficult family climate. My own father is a wonderful man and my hero but he is also a very calm and mostly quiet man and so I didn't get that sort of lesson from him growing up.

A very good friend of mine who is a former alcoholic (now about 15 years sober) emailed JP before he went properly mainstream thanking him for his assistance on his journey overcoming alcoholism. JP was kind enough to reply with something along the lines with 'keep it up kiddo'.

He printed that reply and stuck it on his wall as a form of motivation to keep on his path.

Anyway I don't wanna talk like the man has passed and hopefully he comes out of this strong once more very soon.
 
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Akathisia presenting seven years after discontinuing benzo use? Because of mold exposure? None of this makes any sense.
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I don't really understand his medical issues. There may be more info that we are not being given. I suspect he has a ton of overlying anxiety and perhaps even somatization (although that is just speculation on my end). The last decade or so HAS to have been extremely stressful for him with respect to his political views, and those for/against him. I wish him well.
 
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I miss what he was when he first came into the spotlight, dude was brilliant, but at some point the stress I guess (I mean it did feel for a hot minute there like we were on the verge of some sort of civil war in the west) got to him and he just kinda snapped, it's understandable and would probably happen to anyone.
 
His lectures are online, still worth the watch and something his ennemies or (so called) allies can't take away from him or us.

 
Red Crayon Aristocrat said:
I miss what he was when he first came into the spotlight, dude was brilliant, but at some point the stress I guess (I mean it did feel for a hot minute there like we were on the verge of some sort of civil war in the west) got to him and he just kinda snapped, it's understandable and would probably happen to anyone.
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Even though I can't find it for the life of me, I'm sure I saw once an interview snippet with him where he was asked what his biggest fear was and him answering that it's everything spiraling out of control. Ironic that this is just what happened. No one can do this for so long without the process changing him/her to some degree - even if you are aware that this can happen.
 
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Go_Ly_Dow said:
Now on 51million views.

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This video changed me so much. I used to be a pretty typical leftie in many ways and thought that women were oppressed, the patriarchy was probably a thing in modern-day UK, etc. This showed me a perspective I hadn't seen before, impeccably-reasoned. Every time I've shared the video with someone I can't resist giving it another watch, so I've seen it so many times at this point. It was my gateway drug.
 
Red Crayon Aristocrat said:
I miss what he was when he first came into the spotlight, dude was brilliant, but at some point the stress I guess (I mean it did feel for a hot minute there like we were on the verge of some sort of civil war in the west) got to him and he just kinda snapped, it's understandable and would probably happen to anyone.
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I will always remember a video of him being very excited showing slides of the pinocchio movie to a group of adults and explaining what he thought was its meaning, just the energy and share happiness of it all was great.
 
As smart as he is, clearly Jordan is being manipulated by his daughter or close family, and quite likely poisoned for all we know. I am not surprised since he's probably rolling in royalties and they want in on it
 
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Ra\/en said:
I don't really understand his medical issues. There may be more info that we are not being given. I suspect he has a ton of overlying anxiety and perhaps even somatization (although that is just speculation on my end). The last decade or so HAS to have been extremely stressful for him with respect to his political views, and those for/against him. I wish him well.
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Common things being common it's most likely a drug addiction and the "auto-immune syndrome" is just a cover-up, even if he has an aspect of that as well. There are MILLIONS of folks who deal with substance abuse, just thousands with really severe auto-immune problems, though they certainly do occur and can be a bitch to treat.
 
His work helped tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. He ventured into politics because of the identity madness and that did him great harm. He has been a target for the left for a long time now.

He has been far more important than people want to admit, but because of all the tangents he has been on he has gotten so much hatred coming his way. I remember him going crazy on twitter over and over, it was really bad for him.

I really hope he recovers, he does great work.
 
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analog_future said:
Most of what the Peterson family says doesn't make any sense.
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Which is why I'm concerned that he's not seeing doctors and is just blindly being diagnosed and treated by kooks. There's a lot of kooks that have emerged from that "IDW" space over the past several years and a lot of them are close to Jordan Peterson and many of them have this axe to grind with the medical community, so I hope he's not getting bad advice from people. Whatever he's dealing with, he needs to be treated by actual doctors and medical professionals. Maybe he is, but I agree with how weird this all is, how he doesn't seem to be getting better, and how the information put it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
 
My guess is that he's just neurotic (and given his age wouldn't be surprised if he has some early dementia or neuro degenerative disorder) and the family is looking for an external locus to blame.
 
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Akathisia is torture. I have it seemingly-permanently from Citalopram which I discontinued 7 years ago; originally prescribed (incorrectly) for Depersonalisation/Derealisation. You constantly seek out relaxation but never get it.
 
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GnomeChimpsky said:
His book helped pull my brother out of a decade of being locked in his bedroom playing video games. He now has a career, a girlfriend and a house, so I will always be personally indebted to JBP.

His first step to recovery should be to ditch that crazy ass daughter of his.
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Do you mind explaining briefly what is going on with his daughter? Several people have commented negatively about her in this thread and I've completely missed what she's done or why people don't trust her.
 
A friend of mine thinks he just has a very bad benzo addiction and that the family doesn't want to admit that to protect his dignity.

Dioica said:
Do you mind explaining briefly what is going on with his daughter? Several people have commented negatively about her in this thread and I've completely missed what she's done or why people don't trust her.
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I think it largely comes down to her being very against many conventional health practices and someone who has apparently mended many of her major health issues through alternative diets like the carnivore diet. You'll find a lot about this with a search on YouTube.

JP then also seemingly followed her path after seeing supposed miraculous results from the carnivore diet for his own health issues.

After this he then became very obsessed with these diets and eventually would only eat steak. So I guess many people kind of link him following her to his downward descent with his physical health.
 
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Dioica said:
This video changed me so much. I used to be a pretty typical leftie in many ways and thought that women were oppressed, the patriarchy was probably a thing in modern-day UK, etc.
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It was (and still is) the case, but for older generations, until gen Z. Then gen Y was thought that everybody is equal and patriarchy shouldn't be tolerated (like racism shouldn't either). So of course there is a difference between people in their 30s-40s perception of society, and what they've been told how society works (or used to work).

To give perspective, I could say it's like asbestos: you know it's terrible for human health, and you grew up without being surounded by it (or at least, in a very small amount) but you have older generations dismissing their effects, and all the rules and fines and prevention campains might seem out of place for you, but are adequate for older people who still want to use it. And asbestos is still being produced and used in countries where it's not forbidden, despite being highly dangerous for health.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
His work helped tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. He ventured into politics because of the identity madness and that did him great harm. He has been a target for the left for a long time now.

He has been far more important than people want to admit, but because of all the tangents he has been on he has gotten so much hatred coming his way. I remember him going crazy on twitter over and over, it was really bad for him.

I really hope he recovers, he does great work.
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What was weird was seeing people becoming rabid because Jordan dared speaking directly to young men/boys who had not heard anything about themselves except that they should be ashamed for being part of the patriarchy and having toxic masculinity. There were/is so much venom spewed especially at white guys that having someone teaching them to take a better path was seen as impeding wokeists' efforts to completely demoralize them.

We are living in a sick world where men are not allowed to show masculinity or be strong and it's crushing them. Only women are allowed to have confidence.
 
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Baemono said:
It was (and still is) the case, but for older generations, until gen Z. Then gen Y was thought that everybody is equal and patriarchy shouldn't be tolerated (like racism shouldn't either). So of course there is a difference between people in their 30s-40s perception of society, and what they've been told how society works (or used to work).

To give perspective, I could say it's like asbestos: you know it's terrible for human health, and you grew up without being surounded by it (or at least, in a very small amount) but you have older generations dismissing their effects, and all the rules and fines and prevention campains might seem out of place for you, but are adequate for older people who still want to use it. And asbestos is still being produced and used in countries where it's not forbidden, despite being highly dangerous for health.
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Well, that's why I said 'modern-day UK'. That's not to say I think women have always been allowed equal opportunities or treated well in the workplace because they haven't.

I'm a millennial. I don't feel that women my generation onwards are oppressed much if at all. I have never felt held back because of my sex, and all of my failures have been my own fault.
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What was weird was seeing people becoming rabid because Jordan dared speaking directly to young men/boys who had not heard anything about themselves except that they should be ashamed for being part of the patriarchy and having toxic masculinity. There were/is so much venom spewed especially at white guys that having someone teaching them to take a better path was seen as impeding wokeists' efforts to completely demoralize them.

We are living in a sick world where men are not allowed to show masculinity or be strong and it's crushing them. Only women are allowed to have confidence.
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I had an argument with a friend who said JP is a bigot because he says that monogamy should be mandated. I told her he didn't say that - he said that monogamy is and has been to some degree mandated by our society and that has had several benefits. But she wasn't interested in listening to me and went right back to thinking what she thought to begin with. Impenetrable. And I wasn't even allowed to mention Sam Harris's name in her presence because of course he's a bigot as well.
 
Dioica said:
I'm a millennial. I don't feel that women my generation onwards are oppressed much if at all. I have never felt held back because of my sex, and all of my failures have been my own fault.
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That was exactly my point. You said it better.
 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
I think it largely comes down to her being very against many conventional health practices and someone who has apparently mended many of her major health issues through alternative diets like the carnivore diet. You'll find a lot about this with a search on YouTube.

JP then also seemingly followed her path after seeing supposed miraculous results from the carnivore diet for his own health issues.

After this he then became very obsessed with these diets and eventually would only eat steak. So I guess many people kind of link him following her to his downward descent with his physical health.
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Wow, I wasn't aware of any of this stuff regarding JBP. Damn shame. 😞
 
Mengy said:
Wow, I wasn't aware of any of this stuff regarding JBP. Damn shame. 😞
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Well a lot of people go down health rabbit holes these days. Looking at special diets or supplements, saunas, new water/light therapies etc to improve their health and claim that it's fixed them.

So I don't think it's unique to him or his family, but it is quite widespread.

I can understand peoples frustations at conventional health solutions. I'm not talking about vaccines, but things like the very widespread use of SSRI's and similar highly addictive phsyce drugs that have been almost advertised and handed out like candy in many developed countires. It's left many people with frazzled brain chemistry and addictions to these drugs. I'm sure many have found benefits too of course.

It very much sounds like he has a severe addiction to these drugs which is a damn shame if true.
 
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Dioica said:
This video changed me so much. I used to be a pretty typical leftie in many ways and thought that women were oppressed, the patriarchy was probably a thing in modern-day UK, etc. This showed me a perspective I hadn't seen before, impeccably-reasoned. Every time I've shared the video with someone I can't resist giving it another watch, so I've seen it so many times at this point. It was my gateway drug.
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The hilarious thing is that Channel 4 News are openly 'progressive'. The interview made them mald to the extreme.

Still, it took until just a few weeks ago for that interviewer to leave.
 
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