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[RurouniZel]

Did you hear that on the SA forums?

No, I was listening to it on the way home from Otakon Friday after I got Nobuo Uematsu's autograph (score!), and I just randomly heard it and thought "Was that what I thought I heard??" and listened again. There it was. ^^

 

[Lionheart1827]

No, I was listening to it on the way home from Otakon Friday after I got Nobuo Uematsu's autograph (score!), and I just randomly heard it and thought "Was that what I thought I heard??" and listened again. There it was. ^^

Wow, probably my favorite RPG of all time since I was a kid and only now have I ever made this connection.

Mind blown

 

[qq more]

I'm not entirely sure if this was brought up yet but...


Did you know that you can become invincible from Robotnik's attack as long as you crouch down during the boss fight in Chemical Plant Zone from Sonic 2? Seriously, try it out yourself!

 

[Jasoco]

I just noticed that there's a bullet bill and a Torpedo Ted in the mario games.

=

How did I never catch that?

Where I work, we have both a Terrance and a Phillip, and the city has both a Keenan and a Thompson motors car dealership chain. But I never saw Bill and Ted? And I love those movies!

 

[The Awesomest]

From Beyond Good & Evil:

Akuda Bar > Bar Akuda > Barracuda

????

 

[Jasoco]

From Beyond Good & Evil:

Akuda Bar > Bar Akuda > Barracuda

????

But what does it mean?

 

[Clipper]

From Beyond Good & Evil:

Akuda Bar > Bar Akuda > Barracuda

????

You know, I think this is purposeful. Ubisoft and Michel Ancel are French, and in French the name would be written Bar Akuda as adjectives follow nouns in their grammatical structure. The French use the word barracuda for the fish too.

I might try setting the language to French and seeing how the bar is named to confirm...

 

[jaxword]

Wow, probably my favorite RPG of all time since I was a kid and only now have I ever made this connection.

Mind blown

Ok, here's some FF6 trivia you may not know. All of these CAN be found in-game:

Shadow hates Opera.
Gau's father worked for the empire (And possibly hid the map in the painting).
Kefka can kill himself.
Gau can be added to the team of Terra and Locke for the Esper mission. (This is nigh impossible, though)
Zozo has a hidden NW store. Though there's nothing too special there.

 

[Kurtofan]

From Beyond Good & Evil:

Akuda Bar > Bar Akuda > Barracuda

????

Holy shit.AWESOME!

But what does it mean?

The Barracuda is a big fish, it's either a reference to a Claude François song or to the French name of Baracus in the A Team.

 

[electroplankton]

Ok, here's some FF6 trivia you may not know. All of these CAN be found in-game:

Shadow hates Opera.
Gau's father worked for the empire (And possibly hid the map in the painting).
Kefka can kill himself.
Gau can be added to the team of Terra and Locke for the Esper mission. (This is nigh impossible, though)
Zozo has a hidden NW store. Though there's nothing too special there.

Other stuffs like those, please

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Other stuffs like those, please

Gogo was supposed be recruited differently. Instead of hiding in a cave, he was supposed to be hanging around in bars, randomly disguised as one of the 14 playable characters. If you confronted him with the real character he was disguised as, he would agree to join your party. However, the town he was in was determined by a timer and a random factor so you'd have to both find the correct bar and hope you had the right character in your party. This was deemed too difficult. (The fake Siegfried in the final game may or may not be a remnant of this version of Gogo.)

There was supposed to be a scene in which Strago requests that Shadow shows him his face, despite knowing that he would never stay with him and Relm anyway. Shadow would briefly remove his mask (but his sprite would be facing north so you wouldn't see his face), and Strago would thank him before sharing a drink with him.

Spoiler

Terra was supposed to die in the ending, but they thought it would nullify her story arc (since she has asserted her human side by that point in the game), so they had her stay alive as a full human instead.

The part in Tzen with Sabin holding the crumbling house on his shoulders was supposed to have a time limit. If you couldn't finish it in time, Sabin would have died for the rest of the game. From that point on, if you slept at the Tzen inn with Edgar in your party, Edgar would wake up at night to sift through the debris hoping to recover Sabin's body. He would do that everytime you stayed at the inn.

 

[jaxword]

Other stuffs like those, please

FF7 trivia that is sometimes overlooked.

-When Reeve got his promotion, he sent his parents a gift of the fanciest hotel in Midgar...which meant he unknowingly sent them to the Honeybee Inn. Perhaps this helped him realize the horrible conditions of the slums?
-Speaking of the Honeybee in, the girls call Cloud "Poo". This is a translation error, it's a "cute" form of "Pooch" because they're trying to be cutesy and he's a little lost dog there.
-Cid's early rocket prototype crashed...into Midgar...into Aerith's church.
-Diamond Weapon can be seen inside the ice creepily frozen and staring at the party before the crater erupts.
-Yuffie refers to Tifa as "Big Boobs" and Cid as "Old man"
-The plans for the Bombing raid are actually ON the wall of Avalanche's HQ. They are accurate to the game's maps.
-ShinRa are the ones to canonically take out the rampaging weapons; the party merely stalls them (outside of the optional boss fights).
-Played carefully, you can have Cloud have sex with at least one man, Tifa, and possibly Aerith. Shine on, you crazy bisexual schizophrenic.
-Cloud gets a scar in the final battle over his left eye. It IS shown in Advent Children, but easily missed.
-FF13 retro reference. We have a black, middle-aged, single father whose wife is dead and mainly uses guns. Do I mean Barret or Sazh? Note that it's clear they deliberately made the similarities just so they COULD subvert them as Sazh is quite a different person.

FF8 trivia:

- There is a missing power in the FF8 universe, Hyne, AKA God. He is the other half of the Sorceress powers. The story can be found by doing lots of NPC talking. It's somewhere in the FF8 world, but hasn't been found (this is very specifically written by Nojima). I suspect this is related to Ellone, somehow...
- Adel makes an early cameo near the start of the game, you can read her mental screams on the distorted satellite screen.
- Two characters used GFs much less: Irvine and Seifer. And both of these characters have an unexplainable emotional attachment to Edea--Irvine can't shoot her, Seifer feels that Squall and co. have become murderous, trying to kill their matron.
- The GF memory loss is referenced early on in game, but only if you look it up in the school computers.
- EVERY single enemy and party member can be scanned, rotated and zoomed, including the bosses...with the exception of Selphie. You can work out why they censored that.

More to come later!

 

[LeleSocho]

Remember Pokémon Pinball on GBC?
Remember the blue table? Well the music of the blue table it's the first japanese opening of the anime
Pokémon Pinball Blue table
The first OP of the japanese anime

 

[Taurus]

FF7 trivia that is sometimes overlooked.

-When Reeve got his promotion, he sent his parents a gift of the fanciest hotel in Midgar...which meant he unknowingly sent them to the Honeybee Inn. Perhaps this helped him realize the horrible conditions of the slums?
-Speaking of the Honeybee in, the girls call Cloud "Poo". This is a translation error, it's a "cute" form of "Pooch" because they're trying to be cutesy and he's a little lost dog there.
-Cid's early rocket prototype crashed...into Midgar...into Aerith's church.
-Diamond Weapon can be seen inside the ice creepily frozen and staring at the party before the crater erupts.
-Yuffie refers to Tifa as "Big Boobs" and Cid as "Old man"
-The plans for the Bombing raid are actually ON the wall of Avalanche's HQ. They are accurate to the game's maps.
-ShinRa are the ones to canonically take out the rampaging weapons; the party merely stalls them (outside of the optional boss fights).
-Played carefully, you can have Cloud have sex with at least one man, Tifa, and possibly Aerith. Shine on, you crazy bisexual schizophrenic.
-Cloud gets a scar in the final battle over his left eye. It IS shown in Advent Children, but easily missed.
-FF13 retro reference. We have a black, middle-aged, single father whose wife is dead and mainly uses guns. Do I mean Barret or Sazh? Note that it's clear they deliberately made the similarities just so they COULD subvert them as Sazh is quite a different person.

FF8 trivia:

- There is a missing power in the FF8 universe, Hyne, AKA God. He is the other half of the Sorceress powers. The story can be found by doing lots of NPC talking. It's somewhere in the FF8 world, but hasn't been found (this is very specifically written by Nojima). I suspect this is related to Ellone, somehow...
- Adel makes an early cameo near the start of the game, you can read her mental screams on the distorted satellite screen.
- Two characters used GFs much less: Irvine and Seifer. And both of these characters have an unexplainable emotional attachment to Edea--Irvine can't shoot her, Seifer feels that Squall and co. have become murderous, trying to kill their matron.
- The GF memory loss is referenced early on in game, but only if you look it up in the school computers.
- EVERY single enemy and party member can be scanned, rotated and zoomed, including the bosses...with the exception of Selphie. You can work out why they censored that.

More to come later!

This is awesome, thanks!

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Not that mindblowing but fun facts from original Kingdom Hearts. There are few scenes that can be altered. If you complete Deep Jungle before Wonderland the scene where disney villains have captured Alice will be replaced by one where they have Snow White instead.

Also if you skip Monstro and come back after clearing Hollow Bastion scenes will be altered with posessed Riku in them.

 

[Chev]

- There is a missing power in the FF8 universe, Hyne, AKA God. He is the other half of the Sorceress powers. The story can be found by doing lots of NPC talking. It's somewhere in the FF8 world, but hasn't been found (this is very specifically written by Nojima). I suspect this is related to Ellone, somehow...

Nah, nothing to do with Ellone specifically, instead it's much more amusing. If you get all the bits of the story it's pretty obvious, and the japanese guide confirms it: Hyne has been hiding by junctioning to women, jumping from vessel to vessel, ie Hyne is the active sorceress power itself.

His other half (the one that isn't lost according to the stories) is just his discarded skin which he gave to men, and which holds no power (this is a reference to Hyne/Hein in FF3 being a skeleton).

This is why sorceresses are called "Hyne's descendants", and also why there can only be one active sorceress at a time, Hyne being a singular entity. But, you say, Edea and then Rinoa were active at the same time as Adel. Well, that's because they got their powers from THE FUTURE! Specifically, Hyne's line goes through Adel and then all the way through unnamed sorceresses to Ultimecia, no Rinoa involved, then Ultimecia kompresses time and passes her powers to Edea in the past, who then passes them to Rinoa. The Hyne line basically coils itself up at that point, and there effectively are two Hynes (and thus two sorceress lines) until that future day when Ultimecia will lose her powers.

Note this also means all forms of human-driven magic are junction-based. Odine's para-magic does with GF exactly what sorceresses do with Hyne (and Ellone's time power is a junction too, as explained in-game).

 

[jaxword]

His other half (the one that isn't lost according to the stories) is just his discarded skin which he gave to men, and which holds no power (this is a reference to Hyne/Hein in FF3 being a skeleton).

Actually, that "skin" became part of the planet. That's outlined in the short short Nojima wrote in the Ultimania that was supposed to be a lesson from one of the Garden teachers. The "skin" has power, but it's infinitely minute compared to the real thing, but it's still out there, seeping out the earth somewhere.

 

[ElFly]

I'd really like some sources on some of those Final Fantasy mindblowing facts.

I find weird the whole idea of Hyne being a GF. The other GFs don't have the same effects (they don't stay attached to a person for life, can be exchanged freely, etc). More importantly, Hyne doesn't appear in Rinoa's GF menu.

Regardless, this presents an interesting problem; the whole time compression shenanigans, leave the world with two sorceress, and if you subscribe to the hyne theory, it leaves two halves of hyne running around, which could make a complete hyne, maybe?

 

[jaxword]

I'd really like some sources on some of those Final Fantasy mindblowing facts.

Point out a specific one and I'll be glad to tell you how to find 'em.

 

[ElFly]

Point out a specific one and I'll be glad to tell you how to find 'em.

The kefka one is the one that puzzles me.

Also, the cid rocket thingy too.

 

[B.K.]

Regardless, this presents an interesting problem; the whole time compression shenanigans, leave the world with two sorceress, and if you subscribe to the hyne theory, it leaves two halves of hyne running around, which could make a complete hyne, maybe?

It's probably best to just ignore those retcons they came up with to try to fill all the holes in VIII's story.

 

[ElFly]

It's probably best to just ignore those retcons they came up with to try to fill all the holes in VIII's story.

I don't really care about the ultimecia guides. It's only canon if it's in the games.

Hyne is mentioned in the games, though. Trying to reconstruct him as a GF justifying the sorceress is kind of a stretch, but a lesser stretch than other fantheories.

I don't remember if it was possible to have two sorceress at the same time without time travel, though.

 

[jaxword]

The kefka one is the one that puzzles me.

Also, the cid rocket thingy too.

Kefka, in the final battle, can be charmed. He will say his speech...while using havok wing on himself about 6 times and then die without the characters doing a thing. How appropriately nihilistic.

In FF7's script:

CID
“That reminds me of a test rocket that
landed in the Midgar Slums long ago.”
“I remember how relieved I was
when I heard it never blew up.”

And lo and behold:

Normally you'd not notice the rocket as it's a tall map and you'd be busy saving Aerith, Donkey Kong style.




I love FF trivia and little details. Ask me more and I'll gladly provide more!

 

[ElFly]

I really should replay FF7 and FF8 sometime.

I thought the Kefka thing was something else. Still cool.

 

[Guzim]

air guitar

http://youtu.be/Yx8FanC70S4

 

[Bowling Pin]

And she's totally cute!

The voice actress for Peach was Leslie Swan. This is Leslie Hunt, an American Idol contestant.

Not the same person.

 

[UncleSporky]

-Yuffie refers to Tifa as "Big Boobs" and Cid as "Old man"

Japanese version I assume, since I don't remember this.

-ShinRa are the ones to canonically take out the rampaging weapons; the party merely stalls them (outside of the optional boss fights).

So basically they only took out Diamond then? I don't remember how the whole story went here but I only remember them shooting Diamond.

 

[Lijik]

The voice actress for Peach was Leslie Swan. This is Leslie Hunt, an American Idol contestant.

Not the same person.

To be fair, that image is what comes up for the first three results in Google image search probably because of this wiki getting it wrong.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Japanese version I assume, since I don't remember this.



So basically they only took out Diamond then? I don't remember how the whole story went here but I only remember them shooting Diamond.

And the one at the port town.

Juno?

 

[Ondore]

Yep, Juno. I remember somewhere that one being referred to as "Sapphire Weapon" but it's probably fanwank 'cause it's sure as hell not named in the game itself (I think they just call it "WEAPON").

 

[Datschge]

Remember Pokémon Pinball on GBC?
Remember the blue table? Well the music of the blue table it's the first japanese opening of the anime
Pokémon Pinball Blue table
The first OP of the japanese anime

You know what's actually mind blowing about this?

Its composer is Hirokazu "Hip" Tanaka. This work is what forced him to leave Nintendo (as they don't allow employees to do external works) and become president of Creatures instead. He still does Pokemon anime music.

Its lyricist is Akihito Toda. Before doing Pokemon lyrics he didn't do lyrics, he worked as story writer and game designer on the first two Mother/Earthbound games. He still does Pokemon lyrics for all sorts of media.

 

[DrPirate]

Kefka, in the final battle, can be charmed. He will say his speech...while using havok wing on himself about 6 times and then die without the characters doing a thing. How appropriately nihilistic.

In FF7's script:

CID
“That reminds me of a test rocket that
landed in the Midgar Slums long ago.”
“I remember how relieved I was
when I heard it never blew up.”

And lo and behold:

Normally you'd not notice the rocket as it's a tall map and you'd be busy saving Aerith, Donkey Kong style.




I love FF trivia and little details. Ask me more and I'll gladly provide more!

Please? More?! This is fascinating for me

 

[SOLDIER]

FF7 trivia that is sometimes overlooked.

-When Reeve got his promotion, he sent his parents a gift of the fanciest hotel in Midgar...which meant he unknowingly sent them to the Honeybee Inn. Perhaps this helped him realize the horrible conditions of the slums?
-Speaking of the Honeybee in, the girls call Cloud "Poo". This is a translation error, it's a "cute" form of "Pooch" because they're trying to be cutesy and he's a little lost dog there.
-Cid's early rocket prototype crashed...into Midgar...into Aerith's church.
-Diamond Weapon can be seen inside the ice creepily frozen and staring at the party before the crater erupts.
-Yuffie refers to Tifa as "Big Boobs" and Cid as "Old man"
-The plans for the Bombing raid are actually ON the wall of Avalanche's HQ. They are accurate to the game's maps.
-ShinRa are the ones to canonically take out the rampaging weapons; the party merely stalls them (outside of the optional boss fights).
-Played carefully, you can have Cloud have sex with at least one man, Tifa, and possibly Aerith. Shine on, you crazy bisexual schizophrenic.
-Cloud gets a scar in the final battle over his left eye. It IS shown in Advent Children, but easily missed.
-FF13 retro reference. We have a black, middle-aged, single father whose wife is dead and mainly uses guns. Do I mean Barret or Sazh? Note that it's clear they deliberately made the similarities just so they COULD subvert them as Sazh is quite a different person.

-Yuffie actually calls her "Boobs"; not much of a difference, but I do wonder what the original Japanese translation was. She also only used the term once, and only if recruited in Disc 2 with Tifa as leader, so it technically isn't canon. Not to say Yuffie wouldn't be envious, but the writing during the progression of the game suggests that Yuffie and Tifa grow much closer as friends as a result of Aerith's death.

-I don't recall any situation that even vaguely hints that Cloud and Aerith had sex. Even the bit with the men in the hot tub is left ambigious. It's been reported that Cloud/Tifa is the only canon coupling in the game.

-Cloud got the scar from a gunshot from Yazoo in the beginning of AC. It wasn't a wound that carried over from the original game, although I've always assumed he had a scar on his shoulder from Sephiroth. The scar doesn't appear in DoC, either, so it wasn't permanent.

Tifa, however, originally was going to have a scar, though it would have been on her back. It makes me wonder if she canonically has one on her chest, as some fan-artists have implemented.

Red XIII was also supposed to have a rival beast, Indigo XIV.

 

[AbsoluteZero]

The voice actress for Peach was Leslie Swan. This is Leslie Hunt, an American Idol contestant.

Not the same person.

Sorry, I was just going by wikipedia was telling me, I have no way of knowing what she actually looks like.

And Fuuuuuck if I watch American Idol.

 

[Erigu]

I remember somewhere that one being referred to as "Sapphire Weapon" but it's probably fanwank 'cause it's sure as hell not named in the game itself

No, that's its official name (as found in official guides published by Square and such).

 

[jaxword]

Japanese version I assume, since I don't remember this.

So basically they only took out Diamond then? I don't remember how the whole story went here but I only remember them shooting Diamond.

Nope, not just in Japanese, you can trigger it in English too, if you have Tifa as the leader and get Yuffie then. Here's a video, ignore the silly renames. The Japanese term is a bit more "hey big boobs", the English is a bit more boring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roJHb1_tLYs


Shinra took out Sapphire weapon with the point-blank headshot, and blew a hole through Diamond. Canonically, Avalanche just slowed down Diamond and Ultima Weapon, but didn't actually KILL them. Ultima is optional, as is Emerald and Ruby.

 

[jaxword]

-I don't recall any situation that even vaguely hints that Cloud and Aerith had sex. Even the bit with the men in the hot tub is left ambigious. It's been reported that Cloud/Tifa is the only canon coupling in the game.

-Cloud got the scar from a gunshot from Yazoo in the beginning of AC. It wasn't a wound that carried over from the original game, although I've always assumed he had a scar on his shoulder from Sephiroth. The scar doesn't appear in DoC, either, so it wasn't permanent.

If a girl has you alone in a romantic gondola cliche date and goes "I want to...get to KNOW you", you'd have to be completely oblivious to not realize a come-on when you hear it. Especially as it has the quiet fade to black after (which is also the way they show Tifa and Cloud's sex scene much later).

Besides, she already had him sleep over at her place, haha.

As for the scar, check FF7's ending again:

And a closeup during one of the zoom-ins when Cloud is having a Geostigma attack and his eyeball is morphing to Sephiroth's:

I suppose you could argue that it may be a 'symbolic' scar as Yazoo scars him the same way Sephiroth did years ago, since we don't get a clear closeup of Cloud's eyebrow before Yazoo shoots him. So it's either a homage or a direct reference (or coincidence, but that seems unlikely given Nomura's attention to little details).

 

[SOLDIER]

If a girl has you alone in a romantic gondola cliche date and goes "I want to...get to KNOW you", you'd have to be completely oblivious to not realize a come-on when you hear it. Especially as it has the quiet fade to black after (which is also the way they show Tifa and Cloud's sex scene much later).

Besides, she already had him sleep over at her place, haha.

As for the scar, check FF7's ending again:

And a closeup during one of the zoom-ins when Cloud is having a Geostigma attack and his eyeball is morphing to Sephiroth's:

I suppose you could argue that it may be a 'symbolic' scar as Yazoo scars him the same way Sephiroth did years ago, since we don't get a clear closeup of Cloud's eyebrow before Yazoo shoots him. So it's either a homage or a direct reference (or coincidence, but that seems unlikely given Nomura's attention to little details).

Huh. I think I vaguely noticed it the first time, but didn't piece it from the original. Nice find.

The Gondola thing, though, is reaching, especially since all the potential dates end the same way. The line is also another case of mistranslation, as what she was really inferring to was that she wanted to know Cloud's true self, instead of the "fake" personality he had. This was further clarified in the Aerith novel, where she admits (with some jealousy) that there was only one person who was capable of unlocking Cloud's true self.

The original scene with Cloud and Tifa was also supposed to take place in the Chocobo stables.

 

[jaxword]

The Gondola thing, though, is reaching, especially since all the potential dates end the same way. The line is also another case of mistranslation, as what she was really inferring to was that she wanted to know Cloud's true self, instead of the "fake" personality he had. This was further clarified in the Aerith novel, where she admits (with some jealousy) that there was only one person who was capable of unlocking Cloud's true self.

The Maiden Who Travels The Planet isn't really canon, though--it wasn't written by Nojima and was, quite literally, a promoted fanfic by Benny Matsuyama that got published. It has other contradictions and errors, too, so it's best not to use that as evidence for any argument. Most fans rationalize it as a "side story" like a doujinshi.

Now, if you'd rather interpret the Gondola like that, that's your prerogative, but I interpret the fade-to-black as romantic, as it's used later on in the same manner.

 

[SOLDIER]

You can believe that if you want, but it's been canonically stated that the only sexual encounter in that whole game is during Disc 2 with Cloud and Tifa.

Not that mindblowing but fun facts from original Kingdom Hearts. There are few scenes that can be altered. If you complete Deep Jungle before Wonderland the scene where disney villains have captured Alice will be replaced by one where they have Snow White instead.

Also if you skip Monstro and come back after clearing Hollow Bastion scenes will be altered with posessed Riku in them.

Is there a YouTube vid that shows this? I thought you had to finish all the areas in order to visit Hollow Bastion.

 

[Chev]

It's probably best to just ignore those retcons they came up with to try to fill all the holes in VIII's story.

It's not retcons, all the elements are in the game (the single line if you pay attention to the sorceresses' backstory, Hyne through stories told to children, most notably by Zell's neighbor and white seeds, the line coiling back through Edea's own explanation and the ending). They just don't make the final step of spelling it out, just like they never outright say Laguna is Squall's father. In fact if you pay attention, especially though a second playthough, there are very few if any holes in FF8's story, it's based on a crazy time loop but it's got internal rules that it follows to the end.

Hyne is mentioned in the games, though. Trying to reconstruct him as a GF justifying the sorceress is kind of a stretch, but a lesser stretch than other fantheories

Be careful, I didn't say Hyne is a GF, just said it works along the same principles of possessing the human host, and the game systematicaly refers to possessions as junctions (most evident when Adel's orbital prison is described as an anti-junction barrier).

 

[Sciz]

You know what's actually mind blowing about this?

Its composer is Hirokazu "Hip" Tanaka. This work is what forced him to leave Nintendo (as they don't allow employees to do external works) and become president of Creatures instead. He still does Pokemon anime music.

wait wait what

edit: oh lord

Fact of the thread.

 

[TheShampion]

Fact of the thread.

So, Hirokazu Tanaka left Nintendo to write "Fantasy in my Pocket" (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fantasy_in_My_Pocket)

Mind blown

 

[DiipuSurotu]

FFVI:

The character that would become Terra Branford was originally a male half-Esper in his early 20s. His design was eventually changed to that of 18-year-old Terra.

Locke's design was originally that of a slightly-older, dark and mysterious partner of the male protagonist that became Terra Branford. He was supposed to be a rival of sorts to the other characters. He was the one that had the Runic command. As development proceeded his personality was tweaked and eventually became the more "regular" character he is in the final game.

Cyan's character stayed consistent during development, but parts of his story were supposed to interact with Angela, an extra character that was eventually cut from the game. She was a "big sister" archetype and had a take-charge, sultry attitude. She would often flirt with Cyan, who, considering his personality, would always overreact to her. It is unknown if she was an NPC or playable character, but she was probably planned to be playable as she had a whip as a weapon.

Cyan's Bushido skill names are pretty simple, but originally, they were supposed to have more dramatic names, such as Chou Baku Hiryuu Zan ("Super Explosive Flying Dragon Slice").

Celes was originally meant to be a "conflicted spy" archetype - a spy working for the antagonists but swayed by how good the good guys actually are and how nice Locke is to her. She was also psychologically unstable, like Kefka, due to similar magic infusion process. Although the "conflicted spy" idea was not used in the final game, the archetype was eventually used for Cait Sith in FFVII.

The developers wanted to have a gambler character in FFV, but could not pull it off so they waited for FFVI instead. That idea became Setzer.

There was supposed to be an extra area near Narshe called "the Moogle Hole", which had 20 Moogles running around. The player could (re-)recruit Mog if they could find him among all the other Moogles. The developers eventually felt this mini-game of sorts was too annoying and so Mog is considerably easier to find in the game's final version (he just stands alone in the Moogle cave in the Narshe mines).

During development, Strago had a 65-year-old wife named Lara. They often had amusing arguments, with each other claiming the other will die first. She was eventually cut from the game.

Relm's "Control" command is based on the idea that monsters have secret names, and whoever knows these secret names has power over them (this is an idea well-known in real-world demonology).

 

[jaxword]

You can believe that if you want, but it's been canonically stated that the only sexual encounter in that whole game is during Disc 2 with Cloud and Tifa.

Do you have a link?

FFVI:

Ah, the old long Caves of Narshe post. Always wondered how much of that was actually true.

 

[Jasoco]

The Barracuda is a big fish, it's either a reference to a Claude François song or to the French name of Baracus in the A Team.

Well, duh. What I meant was, what does it mean? Why would it be named Barracuda? Are there any barracuda in there? I see a lot of Sharks and a Cow. But no barracuda.

 

[Parallax]

Remember Pokémon Pinball on GBC?
Remember the blue table? Well the music of the blue table it's the first japanese opening of the anime
Pokémon Pinball Blue table
The first OP of the japanese anime

This right here? This is mindblowing. Holy shit. I have played that game many a time and never put two and two together.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Is there a YouTube vid that shows this? I thought you had to finish all the areas in order to visit Hollow Bastion.

Youtube

As seen in the video Riku of course wont help you fight the boss as he normally would. I actually got this alternate scene my first playthrough 'cause I though monstro couldnt be fully completed until later in the game. If you do this however you will not get high jump nor unlock pegasus cup.

 

[KittenMaster]

Celes was originally meant to be a "conflicted spy" archetype - a spy working for the antagonists but swayed by how good the good guys actually are and how nice Locke is to her. She was also psychologically unstable, like Kefka, due to similar magic infusion process. Although the "conflicted spy" idea was not used in the final game, the archetype was eventually used for Cait Sith in FFVII.

I think there are still traces of this idea in the final plot.

Spoiler

During the Narshe battle she isn't trusted by some of the characters, and later on Kefka has the characters believe that she was still on the Empire's side.

Cyan's character stayed consistent during development, but parts of his story were supposed to interact with Angela, an extra character that was eventually cut from the game. She was a "big sister" archetype and had a take-charge, sultry attitude. She would often flirt with Cyan, who, considering his personality, would always overreact to her. It is unknown if she was an NPC or playable character, but she was probably planned to be playable as she had a whip as a weapon.

The role of a character to annoy Cyan got assigned to Gau, at least.

During development, Strago had a 65-year-old wife named Lara. They often had amusing arguments, with each other claiming the other will die first. She was eventually cut from the game.

Well I guess we know who won the argument.

EDIT: My brain just exploded from the Cid's Rocket thing. I think I need to lie down.

 

[jaxword]

I think there are still traces of this idea in the final plot.

Spoiler

During the Narshe battle she isn't trusted by some of the characters, and later on Kefka has the characters believe that she was still on the Empire's side.

The only character who doesn't trust her is Cyan...and it is never, ever mentioned again in the entire game.

Which reminds me of another interesting FF6 plot point. Everyone knows that Cyan and Sabin are war buddies, right? That's their characterization, they have each other's backs throughout the rest of the game, share their experience, etc.

No one disagrees with me, right?

Spoiler

Sabin and Cyan do not have a single line of dialogue together for the entire game after the Figaro boat ride where Gau says "Gau worried, too..."

Isn't that interesting how everyone's imaginations filled in the blanks?


Now, here's some other FF7 fun.

-Here is a scene in-game that explores the overwhelming pressure the planet's knowledge pushes on humans. However, most people miss it, because you have to backtrack after Cloud returns to the party but before meeting Bugenhagen for information. It actually is a little eerie in hindsight with what Lifestream exposure could do to people...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvBm9g2GsDo

-Here's a stealth pun. Nibelheim is based on the Norse word Niflheim. Its etymology is "Mist Home"

-A non Stealth pun: 'Corneo' is pigeon Italian for 'horny.' Japalian?

-Retro FF13 reference: The ProudClod seemed like a mistranslation of Proud Cloud...until FF13 years later shows that it was supposed to be ProudClad. And both of them are endgame super-robots piloted by the generals of your main enemy.

-Here's one I came up with myself when I first saw the Advent Children trailer. You know how Cloud has all his swords in the bike's chassis? I always assumed he was going to use his FF7 collection, but then we saw that they're all just parts of the Fusion Sword.

So 12 year old me was wrong.

THEN I realized, discussing the FF7 Ultimania with a friend years later, that I was right.

All of his swords in Advent Children are based off his sword collection after all! Nomura wasn't just making random designs, they're specifically based off the little FF7 models. Looks like Cloud has a side hobby of minor blacksmithing on the side, turning his swords into the combined weapon.