In the next part of our Hall of Fame series, when looking at the history of the NWA world heavyweight title, one of the things you can look at to determine who were considered the best performers had to do with doing 60 minute draws in championship matches.
Generally speaking, and there are exceptions to every rule, during most of the title run, going 60 minutes meant you were considered a pretty good wrestler as far as a worker goes, because if you werent, going 60 minutes could be the kiss of death to a show. In addition, that also meant you were a top guy because until the title belt started getting prostituted in booking in the mid-70s when Jim Barnett took over booking the champion from Sam Muchnick, promoters were limited to how many 60 minute matches they could book the champion. But in addition, as time went on, particularly starting in the late 80s, these types of matches became rarer and rarer because the title meant less and attention spans were also less.
Before doing 60 minute draws, as best we can tell, the longest title matches of the NWA era (and in this case we are using the period from the firs convention in 1948 until the title was dropped in 1991 and became the WCW title, after which 60 minute matches were almost never held. The AWA and WWWF title had occasional 60 minute matches, but we dont have as complete records and they were far more rare. It should also be noted that records are incomplete, and at best, these numbers are probably closer to 50 to 70 percent of what the real numbers would be. But here are the leading 60 minute men of that era.
Lou Thesz 215
Harley Race 120
Dory Funk Jr. 118
Ric Flair 85
Pat OConnor 64
Gene Kiniski 62
Jack Brisco 56
Whipper Billy Watson 36
Terry Funk 31
Buddy Rogers 31
Dick Hutton 23
Wilbur Snyder 15
Ricky Steamboat 14
Kerry Von Erich 14
Don Leo Jonathan 14
Enrique Torres 14
Wahoo McDaniel 12
Johnny Valentine 13
Dusty Rhodes 11
Johnny Weaver 11
Orville Brown 11
Verne Gagne 11
Luther Lindsay 11
Dory Funk Sr. 10
Barry Windham 9
Giant Baba 8
Bruiser Brody 8
Magnum T.A. 8
Jumbo Tsuruta 8
Ilio DiPaolo 8
Pepper Gomez 8
Argentina Rocca 8
Bobby Managoff 8
Rocky Johnson 7
Fritz Von Erich 7
Billy Robinson 7
Danny Hodge 7
Dick Murdoch 6
Mr. Wrestling II 6
Ray Gunkel 6
Dick the Bruiser 5
Edouard Carpentier 5
Lonnie Mayne 5
Ron Miller 5
Paul Jones 5
Killer Kowalski 5
Its actually quite amazing since these numbers are not complete that its likely Thesz had at least 300 world title matches that went more than an hour during his career. And thats just from 1949 on, since Thesz held versions of the world title actually dating back to 1937.
The people with the most draws in title matches not in the Hall of Fame are Dick Hutton, who looks like a strong candidate as the guy was a champion, but also a major contender for years before winning the title, Wilbur Snyder (always a leading contender), Kerry Von Erich (the thing that kills him is longevity, as he was absolutely having a Hall of Fame career through about 1985, but fizzled out from there), Enrique Torres (one of those guys who every single indication is that he was a top of the line guy, main eventer everywhere and top contender and what kills him is history forgot him), Johnny Weaver (a Carolinas star for a long time), Orville Brown (the original NWA champion) and Luther Lindsay (who has to be one of the most underrated wrestlers ever, as the guy had a great reputation as a genuine wrestler, clearly must have been able to draw because in those days putting an African-American on top was touchy because of the inherent racism in the public, let alone make him a top title contender), Barry Windham (similar to Von Erich), Magnum T.A. (An auto accident ended his career), Ilio DiPaolo (the Buffalo wrestling hero), Pepper Gomez (who is another person who when looking at these records come across as a far bigger star than hes remembered, because by the 70s, he was really long past his prime and thats where most people saw him, but from 1955-65 he was one of the biggest stars in the game).
The longest NWA title matches on record were 90minutes, and those with more than one 90 minute title match were Lou Thesz (9), Rito Romero (4), Pepper Gomez (4), Pat OConnor (4), Whipper Billy Watson (2), Buddy Rogers (2), Jack Brisco (2) and Dory Funk Jr. (2).
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This past month was the 10th anniversary of the folding of Eyada. The final show ever on the station was Wrestling Observer Live on July 9, 2001, the day we got news that the station was closing up that night, and basically we were told it was done but asked to do a final show and were given the okay. It was the first major money attempt to do a radio station designed specifically for the Internet, was a concept that was counting on the technology that within a few years, automobiles would be equipped with radios that would pick up the Internet. That didnt happen, and the company lost millions and folded in less than two years. However, it is very much responsible for the direction of both my career and that of Bryan Alvarez.
Id known Bryan from his newsletter and also because he worked on the Wrestling Observer Hotline. After the first few Eyada shows, which were disastrous in a sense since we started with no advertising and I had to talk for two hours and just hope somebody would call and save it, Bryan was a guest and he ended up staying for every show, becoming co-host and working with the show to where he hosts the terrestrial radio version of it today.
It was kind of a fluke all this happened. Bob Meyrowitz, who owned the UFC, was the man behind the Eyada project and knew me from covering the events so hired me on to do the show. The show itself was a huge hit, between live and the ability to listen in archives, we had 50,000 to 80,000 listeners daily, making it the most popular Internet-produced show of its kind. Wed get about 150 e-mail questions in on an average day.
At business meetings, the show was pushed as the proof that Internet radio of that type works. But sadly, the time wasnt right, the advertising wasnt there, and money losses, like in so many Internet start-up companies from that era, were huge. Part of the thing was the amount of money for office space, as they rented an expensive Times Square studio, and everything was done with the appearance of being first-class. Money was pouring out and very little was coming in.
Full page ads were taken out in the biggest and most expensive magazines, Entertainment Weekly, Sports Illustrated, People, and these were the WCW version of advertising. A full page with a goofy design and the words Eyada, never saying it was an Internet radio station, promoting any of the hosts, or anything one would logically expect to have in a product advertisement.
As time went on, cuts were being made of key personnel. A couple of months before the station closed, we knew the idea of the Internet radio wasnt going to fly. The new cars didnt have the capability. That was the difference between Meyrowitzs concept and the Sirius and XM concept, which lost tons more money, but still survived and because of Howard Stern, at one point had the impression of being the cool in thing. Meyrowitz at the time was trying to get funding to buy a national radio network, where all of the programming would move to. It came down to the wire, but he couldnt raise quite enough capital and the purchase didnt go through. When the deal didnt go through, the concept closed that day.
It was only a few months after WCW and ECW closed. Unlike ECW, where you could see for a long time the end was near because people werent getting paid, and Paul Heyman was holding out with the idea that WWF moving from USA to Spike TV and his belief he could hold on longer than WCW, would leave USA, TBS and TNT all losing their wrestling product on stations used to paying millions for rights fees. Even a deal for a fraction of the money those stations were used to paying would be a grand slam home run for the size of business Heyman had. Of course, with more money coming in, even if Heyman had gotten the deal, the temptation would have been great to try and expand, and there was so much marketable talent available with the death of WCW that didnt fit into the WWF mentality of what a star wrestler was, while Heyman was a lot more liberal in his viewpoints on who could be a star. But there was no guarantee it would have been a success long-term, plus, with the USA Network being a highly rated cable station, ECW would not have lasted long on that station without the ability to garner at least a 2.5 rating. With hindsight, that was not going to happen.
Eric Bischoff led a group that actually had a press conference with Time Warner and had announced its purchase of WCW, so they were going to get TNA and TBS. But TNT had quietly decided it was dropping wrestling although that information was kept secret, and I dont think even Bischoff was aware of it. TBS wanted to keep the weekly shows that had been on the station since 1972, until Time Warner hired Jamie Kellner, a program director who hated wrestling, and in his first move, he canceled all wrestling programming. Like what just happened with Heyman, and what would happen with Meyrowitz, Bischoff had gotten the word about all Time Warner stations not being allowed to carry wrestling and had to make a TV deal literally within days, or what was left of WCW would be sold at the ridiculous price of $2.5 million to Vince McMahon, because Bischoffs backers were falling apart and felt there was no value in the company without a television deal. He went to FOX for meetings, but ultimately, they were not going to pull the trigger on a deal in a day or two, and he didnt have any longer to get the deal done.
USA and ECW negotiations went down to the wire. It was green lighted all the way up the food chain until getting to Barry Diller, who ran the network. He was not a fan, and a few years earlier had made the call to cancel both boxing and wrestling on the station, effective with the start of the 1998-99 television season. The popular Tuesday Night Fights show that old time boxing fans talk of so fondly was no more, but Raw, due to the ascension of Steve Austin and his feud with Vince McMahon, had caught ratings fire. Whether WWF could have gotten another cable station had not the Austin era happened is a very interesting question. Boxing, which had only slightly lower ratings than Raw until Raw took off with Tyson/Austin followed by McMahon/Austin, and could charge more per viewer for ads, never got a major station to do Tuesday Night Fights.
In early 2002, Meyrowitz hired me again to do a weekly show, but despite the success of the Internet show, was unable to garner any level of syndication. Things started out rocky. They wanted to debut the night of the 2002 Royal Rumble, with a show with me on location in Atlanta. My wife was due with our first child days after that show, and I wouldnt make the commitment that no matter, even if she gave birth that day or the day before, Id be in Atlanta for the show. So that led to another couple of months of delays with the show debuting the night of WrestleMania from Toronto.
There were stations that had programmers that listened to the old show, or were subscribers to the newsletter and would come to me wanting the show, but somehow the deals never were finalized. Other stations, relying on instinct for programming, tested the idea of a wrestling radio show, and what we were didnt fit what they wanted. But the idea of being able to fund a national show through advertising wasnt going to fly and it was doomed. Im not sure exactly what they expected, but two guys with guests talking about wrestling and MMA news and taking calls from people who were largely not insane was not it. Stations expecting us to be stereotypical (well, in their eyes) wrestling fans, goofballs to be laughed at, and the callers to be even worse, were sorely disappointed.
What saved the show is the only studio they could find for me to tape at was in San Francisco, the Sports Byline USA studios. We did the show and garnered so many phone calls, that Sports Byline wanted to keep the show after Meyrowitz dropped out. I did the show that way for years, giving it up when I took a job with Fox Sports.com, which led to being hired by Yahoo. At that point, I simply didnt have the time, and it wasnt long after that when I started doing the radio shows regularly on the web site.
Eyada was the second time during my career doing this newsletter when I took a job with a national entity, the first being working with The National, a daily sports newspaper that ran from 1989 to 1991, with Frank Deford at the helm. I got the position there on the reference of Dick Ebersol, who was an avid Observer reader at the time, and John Cherwa, another reader, who was at the time the sports editor of the Los Angeles Times. Because of the timing of its death, there were a number of nostalgia articles written about the publication over the past several weeks, most notably a huge story spearheaded by Bill Simmons web site because of the 20th anniversary of its death on 6/13. The National, while a financial failure due to a number of aspects, including timing and rushing into doing something before it was truly ready, is remembered today far more fondly, as this newspaper that was a living dream for the hardcore sports fan. Ten years after its folding, nobody remembered Eyada.
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Devon Hannibal Nicholson filed a $6.5 million lawsuit against Larry Abdullah the Butcher Shreeve in Superior Court of Justice in Ontario on 6/22. The lawsuit regards Nicholson getting Hepatitis C, and blaming it on a double juice match he had with Abdullah. The two wrestled each other a few times when Nicholson, 28, brought Butcher to Canada. The claim is that in a 2007 match, Abdullah bladed himself and then bladed Nicholson with the same blade, and thus Nicholson contracted Hepatitis.
Nicholson claimed he was about to sign a WWE contract in 2009, but when undergoing company medical testing, they found he had Hepatitis C and pulled the offer. He also said that in 2010, his Hepatitis C prevented him from getting a job with TNA. Nicholson has a background in amateur wrestling and at one point was advertised for MMA, but with Hepatitis meant he couldnt be sanctioned in that sport either. Nicholson claimed Butcher bladed him without either his consent or knowledge.
Nicholson claimed that in a September 2010 meeting with Abdullah in Atlanta, he agreed to be tested for Hepatitis C, but then never has been tested. However, Abdullah, 70, claims that he has gotten full medical reports that shows he has no hepatitis or AIDS, and was negative for everything. Butcher also said that Nicholson wrestled in a lot of bloody matches, both in Canada and Puerto Rico. Nicholson said that Butcher is the only wrestler where his opponent bladed him after already blading himself. He claimed he didnt know Abdullah was going to blade him with the same blade he was using on himself.
Butcher said that he never used the blade on Nicholson, only himself (from a tape it did appear Butcher bladed Nicholson). Nicholson claimed in the suit that he went into depression, needing psychiatric help as well as taking anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medication when he realized he would never reach his dream of working in WWE. He claimed in the suit that the disease cost him his career and top WWE performers can earn up to $1 million per year (actually the biggest names make considerably more than that). Some background on this is that Nicholsons father is a lawyer, who was the money behind a lot of the shows that Nicholson promoted and brought in top stars to work with him in. Nicholson has a bad reputation in some circles, notably for shooting and nearly breaking the arm of Don Paysan and also shooting and putting a choke on Tommy Dreamer in a worked match (said to be over TNAs not offering him a contract after he attended one of their gut check tryouts). Nicholson currently works as a personal trainer at the Rey Friel Rec Complex in Ottawa.
Abdullah is now needing a walker to get around. He worked a 7/23 show in Macon, GA, but could only be a manager. He also had a cane with him and was whacking the faces with it. The show, billed as Georgia Championship Wrestling, the name of the regional office as far back as anyone can remember, drew 500 fans, which also saw the reuniting of the tag team of TNT, which was the babyface team of Tommy Rich & Tony Atlas, who both became stars on national TV there. They were Georgia tag team champions in 1977 when both were 21 and they said that they hadnt teamed together since 1981.
Chris Jericho has gone into business with Chipper Jones of the Atlanta Braves and former Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebacker Derek Brooks on a D-1 Training Center that will open in Tampa in a few months. Its part of a franchise of about 13 centers scheduled to be open with the theme of allowing athletes modern type of workout equipment and routines set up for what the top athletes do in training, as well as trying to be a gym for the family.
Jericho and Fozzy are doing another tour of the U.K. From 11/2 to 11/13.
Juggalo Championship Wrestling has updated its Legends and Icons night on 8/12 as part of their Gathering of the Juggalos. The lineup has Greg Valentine vs. Tito Santana in a cage match as a rematch of a July 6, 1985, cage match in Baltimore where Santana won the IC title; Rock & Roll Express vs. Head Bangers in what is billed as a Rock vs. Punk match, Bob Backlund vs. Ken Patera in a rematch of a 1981 series of matches that included a May 19 Texas death match in Madison Square Garden that was voted that years Match of the Year; Koko B. Ware vs. Kamala vs. Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantel, Tracy Smothers vs. Tommy Rich (who were tag team partners as The FBI in ECW and have never faced each other in a singles match), Raven vs. Al Snow vs. Rhino vs. Balls Mahoney vs. Shane Douglas vs. mystery opponent from ECW; Rikishi & Brian Christopher (reuniting the tag team of Too Cool) vs. Warlord & Barbarian (reuniting the Powers of Pain, a Rumble style Battle Royal with Jim Duggan, Tony Atlas, Honky Tonk Man, Carlito, Jimmy Snuka, Big Daddy V, Rob Conway, Zach Gowen, Ron Garvin and U-Gene Dinsmore; Scott Hall (I dont know about putting him in the ring at this stage) & Kevin Nash vs. Road Dogg & Billy Gunn with Sean Waltman as referee (it would feel a lot healthier for Waltman to be the one in the match and Hall as referee although I get it in the sense Waltman was part of both factions so who is he going to side with if youre doing it is a wrestling gimmick), and Terry Funk vs. Roddy Piper (managed by Bob Orton Jr.) in an I Quit match, which is only the second time the two will have ever faced each other in a singles match (they met in a 1983 match in Toronto). The show will be on iPPV on the ICPs
www.psychopathiclive.com site and Mick Foley and Kevin Gill will be announcing.
Adam Pearce regained the NWA title for the fourth time on 7/31 in Columbus, OH, at the annual show at the Ohio State Fair, before about 180 fans. Pearce won a four-way over Chance Prophet, Jimmy Rave and Shaun Tempers. The title was vacated by The Sheik, who when told he was supposed to drop it to Pearce as was the agreement when he got the title, said that he wasnt coming to Columbus, since he was getting much better money and being put over strong by Zero-One as the NWA and AWA world champion.
Speaking of Piper, he did a lengthy interview this past week in the Charleston Post-Courier to push this coming weekends NWA Legends convention in Atlanta, and noted something that a lot of people have forgotten. When he came to WWF in 1984, he had a rule of thumb, and that was that he would never work a WWF event in either Oregon or the Carolinas, due to the loyalty to Don Owen and Jim Crockett Jr., who both gave him major breaks. Even though every big star in that era came from a territory, he was the only one who made that stand.
Really, there were only two or three guys tops who could have gotten away with it. He went so far as, in 1985, when he took a vacation from WWF (and just taking a vacation in those days was something only two or three guys could have done), there was a show in Portland that celebrated Owens half-century or so in wrestling, and was the biggest show he had ever promoted, and Piper came back to work against old rival Buddy Rose as a babyface, even though he was the top heel in the country at the time. There are other guys who probably would have done it (when the Funks were in, I really dont believe theyd have worked Japan, but it was a moot point because WWF wasnt going there), but nobody else did. The only other instance I can recall something like this happening was Steve Williams, when he was in WWF, was booked by the company to work a big FMW show.
This was during the era when WWF was sending talent to other promoters in exchange for booking fees. They could make major money sending contracted wrestlers to Japan at that time. Williams refused, saying he would never work against Giant Baba. Jim Ross ended up having to fire him over it. You can imagine must have been a real bad situation for both because they were personal friends. Ross and Williams did end up being close friends after that and all the WCW booked by Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara blew over.
The next Urban Wrestling Federation PPV show, a taped show, is scheduled for 9/25.
Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins, a long-time very serious wrestling fan, is going to start his own indie group, Resistance Pro Wrestling.
Aja Kong (Erica Shishedo) will make her first U.S. wrestling appearance since 1995 as part of a Joshimania promotion by CHIKARA Pro Wrestling in December, where she and Manami Toyota, two of the three biggest stars (with Akira Hokuto) of the early 90's All Japan womens promotion that drew some of the biggest womens crowds in history including more than 30,000 once at the Tokyo Dome, will appear. Kong, a combination African American Japanese woman, now 40, was along with Dump Matsumoto one of the two most charismatic monster heels in womens wrestling history and in her day was a household name in Japan, because she endorsed so many products and it was impossible to go too far in Tokyo at one point without seeing an ad with her face on it somewhere. Kong had the most fitting ring music of her era, starting with the line, God made the devil just for fun, but when he wanted the real thing, he made Aja Kong. Awesome Kong, who was known in Japan as Amazing Kong, got the name to do a natural feud with Aja Kong years ago and the two later became a tag team. Kana, who is a current Japanese woman star at a time when womens wrestling in Japan is at a minuscule level of popularity compared with two decades ago, makes her U.S. debut with CHIKARA on 10/7 in Burlington, NC, and 10/8 in Kingsport, TN.