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The Last of Us (Naughty Dog): Hold One Second

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Danielsan

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How is this not surprising or were you expecting a new franchise announcement from Naughty Dog a month after they released U3?
And a lengthy trailer with in engine footage to boot, which suggests that this project has been under development for quit some time. I certainly did not expect this.
 

Violater

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I'm not sure, but there HAS to be a story here. This character looks NOTHING like Ashley Johnson and everything like Ellen Page, and her name is Ellie! Come on!



Well, it's all 'in-engine', which probably means like Uncharted in-engine. Regardless, it's definitely not CG. If you're more worried about the lack of showing gameplay you should be more specific :p

I was waiting the whole time for it to switch to gameplay
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Holy crap, I didn't expect something so derivative. I'm completely uninterested in this.

Naughty Dog seems like an extremely cowardly developer right now. They achieve critical and sales success with Uncharted, and what do they do next? A zombie game without a single original idea in the trailer.
 

Enco

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Pretty identical.

Videogame version is more attractive.
 
The other thing that struck me is that the infected are potentially quite blind. That could make for some interesting mechanics.

Yes, they appear to have limted/no eyes, ears (and nose!). That too will be something interesting to see how they will work out. Maybe they will be attracted by loud noises or foul smell. And you'll be able to sneak past them, if they are not in a frantic state.
 

Respawn

Banned
Late but I'm in all the way. Trailer was fantastic. Really set the mood and direction where this is going. More to be revealed as usual and with all the advance animation routines they have made this will be fantastic. No need to worry this is from our friends at ND.
 
I wonder how global warming issues will be handled. The main premise will be that we fucked up nature so bad that it I now trying to kill us 1 by 1. I can only hope.
 
Holy crap, I didn't expect something so derivative. I'm completely uninterested in this.

Naughty Dog seems like an extremely cowardly developer right now. They achieve critical and sales success with Uncharted, and what do they do next? A zombie game without a single original idea in the trailer.

I disagree. Cut it down to its absolute core elements -- "game features reanimated corpses" -- then, yes, it does sound derivative. But that's not the trailer Naughty Dog's released. We see humans killing other humans in order to collect some bullets, a teenage girl who's only ever known life with the infection, and a modern world conquered by nature.

Furthermore, the "undead" themselves look nothing like zombies of the traditional sense, and appear to be infected by a similar fungus to the ant videos released pre-announcement. There's room for a frightening, natural tale here, and it's coming from a studio that has outstanding pedigree in writing and character development.

I really don't understand the generic complaints. But I guess there are some people that are really bummed out on zombies. The point is, the zombies here aren't the same as the ones that you've been shooting in Call Of Duty: Black Ops and every other game that decided to chuck a horror element into their action game. This looks much more personal.
 
I disagree. Cut it down to its absolute core elements -- "game features reanimated corpses" -- then, yes, it does sound derivative. But that's not the trailer Naughty Dog's released. We see humans killing other humans in order to collect some bullets, a teenage girl who's only ever known life with the infection, and a modern world conquered by nature.

Furthermore, the "undead" themselves look nothing like zombies of the traditional sense, and appear to be infected by a similar fungus to the ant videos released pre-announcement. There's room for a frightening, natural tale here, and it's coming from a studio that has outstanding pedigree in writing and character development.

I really don't understand the generic complaints. But I guess there are some people that are really bummed out on zombies. The point is, the zombies here aren't the same as the ones that you've been shooting in Call Of Duty: Black Ops and every other game that decided to chuck a horror element into their action game. This looks much more personal.
Yeah, I really have high hopes ND will do something different with the zombies. Pretty much every game has you fighting a giant hoard and it's very seldom more than an action game with zombies instead of mercenaries/terrorists/whatever.

I'd like them to make the zombies a huge threat so even one or two are something to worry about. Have lots of downtime, like the small bits in Uncharted, etc etc.

If anyone can make zombies fresh and exciting it's ND. I'm going to remain optimistic.
 

suzu

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Isn't the girl's face based on the voice actress?

It wouldn't surprise me if they make some slight changes to the character's look down the line (because of all the Ellen Page look-alike comments).
 

CozMick

Banned
All the compaints about survival horror, did you guys not play L4D2? some of the best gameplay of this gen :\ but now with a current gen game engine.
 
All the compaints about survival horror, did you guys not play L4D2? some of the best gameplay of this gen :\ but now with a current gen game engine.

Hopefully its nothing like that

Really hope this is in third person. ND's animation is way too good to waste on first person
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
I disagree. Cut it down to its absolute core elements -- "game features reanimated corpses" -- then, yes, it does sound derivative. But that's not the trailer Naughty Dog's released. We see humans killing other humans in order to collect some bullets, a teenage girl who's only ever known life with the infection, and a modern world conquered by nature.

Furthermore, the "undead" themselves look nothing like zombies of the traditional sense, and appear to be infected by a similar fungus to the ant videos released pre-announcement. There's room for a frightening, natural tale here, and it's coming from a studio that has outstanding pedigree in writing and character development.

I really don't understand the generic complaints. But I guess there are some people that are really bummed out on zombies. The point is, the zombies here aren't the same as the ones that you've been shooting in Call Of Duty: Black Ops and every other game that decided to chuck a horror element into their action game. This looks much more personal.
The fungus thing is just a typical zombie game ploy. Call them something other than zombies, maybe have a few minor differences, and boom! You have something original!

Except you don't. Remember Resident Evil 4? They were Ganado parasites, but come on, everyone knew the parasite thing was a fig leaf and that they were basically zombies. There are tons of examples of this, from Husks in Mass Effect 1 to the things in I Am Legend.

I genuinely mean no offense, but are your standards so low that you consider these zombies to be something original?

Humans killing humans, modern worlds conquered by nature, and kids who have grown up with zombies are all common features of zombie/post-apocalyptic media, too.
 

Respawn

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I disagree. Cut it down to its absolute core elements -- "game features reanimated corpses" -- then, yes, it does sound derivative. But that's not the trailer Naughty Dog's released. We see humans killing other humans in order to collect some bullets, a teenage girl who's only ever known life with the infection, and a modern world conquered by nature.

Furthermore, the "undead" themselves look nothing like zombies of the traditional sense, and appear to be infected by a similar fungus to the ant videos released pre-announcement. There's room for a frightening, natural tale here, and it's coming from a studio that has outstanding pedigree in writing and character development.

I really don't understand the generic complaints. But I guess there are some people that are really bummed out on zombies. The point is, the zombies here aren't the same as the ones that you've been shooting in Call Of Duty: Black Ops and every other game that decided to chuck a horror element into their action game. This looks much more personal.

Great post and what I'm thinking.
 
The fungus thing is just a typical zombie game ploy. Call them something other than zombies, maybe have a few minor differences, and boom! You have something original!

Except you don't. Remember Resident Evil 4? They were Ganado parasites, but come on, everyone knew the parasite thing was a fig leaf and that they were basically zombies. There are tons of examples of this, from Husks in Mass Effect 1 to the things in I Am Legend.

I genuinely mean no offense, but are your standards so low that you consider these zombies to be something original?

Humans killing humans, modern worlds conquered by nature, and kids who have grown up with zombies are all common features of zombie/post-apocalyptic media, too.

Yet I'd argue no game has really conquered the survival mentality of a zombie apocalypse, at least the games that all seemed to be getting close have disappeared (early RE and SH games). They are all just about mowing down enemies now, and I think there is room for a game like this.

Right now, for me, this news is the equivelant of a new Mikami RE game. There is a lot of potential here. If it turns out like we are hoping.

Could turn out to be yet another game about mowing down enemies, but the early pieces of info indicate its not.

Edit: and come to think of it, has a pre-established world during a zombie apocalypse / plague actually been explored? Usually its in the initial disaster stages, but a world where the traps set by other survivors could be just as dangerous as the "zombies" could be interesting. Like HL2's Ravenholm on a larger scale
 

The_Monk

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I hope they are father and daughter. This will help to create a bond when playing, like I won't let nothing bad happen to her, etc.
 
The fungus thing is just a typical zombie game ploy. Call them something other than zombies, maybe have a few minor differences, and boom! You have something original!

Except you don't. Remember Resident Evil 4? They were Ganado parasites, but come on, everyone knew the parasite thing was a fig leaf and that they were basically zombies. There are tons of examples of this, from Husks in Mass Effect 1 to the things in I Am Legend.

I genuinely mean no offense, but are your standards so low that you consider these zombies to be something original?

Humans killing humans, modern worlds conquered by nature, and kids who have grown up with zombies are all common features of zombie/post-apocalyptic media, too.

My sentiments as echoed in the last page.

Yet I'd argue no game has really conquered the survival mentality of a zombie apocalypse, at least the games that all seemed to be getting close have disappeared (early RE and SH games). They are all just about mowing down enemies now, and I think there is room for a game like this.

Right now, for me, this news is the equivelant of a new Mikami RE game. There is a lot of potential here. If it turns out like we are hoping.

Could turn out to be yet another game about mowing down enemies, but the early pieces of info indicate its not.

And that's what I've been hoping since pre-reveal. Back to SH tense exploring / meaningful encounters (well at least the first half of the game :p).
 

mr. puppy

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wait so the director behind uncharted 2 and 3 were different people? no wonder uncharted 3 felt so claustrophobic, the dude in charge decided to make a game where the level is a huge city of zombies.
 

Corto

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The fungus thing is just a typical zombie game ploy. Call them something other than zombies, maybe have a few minor differences, and boom! You have something original!

Except you don't. Remember Resident Evil 4? They were Ganado parasites, but come on, everyone knew the parasite thing was a fig leaf and that they were basically zombies. There are tons of examples of this, from Husks in Mass Effect 1 to the things in I Am Legend.

I genuinely mean no offense, but are your standards so low that you consider these zombies to be something original?

Humans killing humans, modern worlds conquered by nature, and kids who have grown up with zombies are all common features of zombie/post-apocalyptic media, too.

What if it ends up being good? I can understand the derivative, unoriginal claims about the setting of the movie (post-apocalyptical survival horror) but what if the game mechanics, the story/characters make it a worthwhile experience? Knowing the previous works of ND that doesn't balance you to a more wait-and-see approach giving them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I'm hoping that the thing that excited most of us in the infamous trailer of Dead Island will finally be delivered by ND. A serious adult take with character and story depth in a somewhat derivative setting.
 

The_Monk

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"Joel, a brutal survivor, and Ellie, a young teenage girl who's braver and wiser beyond her years, must work together if they hope to survive their journey across the US."

I wanted them to be family..!
 

LiquidMetal14

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I always love the little subtle things ND does with animation like when the male lead there loads/readies his gun and grimaces at the sound that makes. That's the workmanship ND brings there, love it.

awwwww fuck... I was hopeing it wouldnt be like this. Yup its going to be a Uncharted zombie-fied clone alright. Sorry but fuck you ND if thats the case :/

How old are you now? Is that how you represent yourself to news in person? No wonder gamers are always looked at as immature.
 
What if it ends up being good? I can understand the derivative, unoriginal claims about the setting of the movie (post-apocalyptical survival horror) but what if the game mechanics, the story/characters make it a worthwhile experience? Knowing the previous works of ND that doesn't balance you to a more wait-and-see approach giving them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I'm hoping that the thing that excited most of us in the infamous trailer of Dead Island will finally be delivered by ND. A serious adult take with character and story depth in a somewhat derivative setting.

It could easily be good, I just think a lot of people are tired of zombies. I personally think a world after a zombie infestation would be fun. The humans won but there may still be a few lurking about but it's mainly man on man in a wasteland.
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
What if it ends up being good? I can understand the derivative, unoriginal claims about the setting of the movie (post-apocalyptical survival horror) but what if the game mechanics, the story/characters make it a worthwhile experience? Knowing the previous works of ND that doesn't balance you to a more wait-and-see approach giving them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I'm hoping that the thing that excited most of us in the infamous trailer of Dead Island will finally be delivered by ND. A serious adult take with character and story depth in a somewhat derivative setting.

The fact that everything's so derivative makes it less good. Setting is a critical part of the experience and can make or break a game by itself (look at Bioshock for an example of the former).

I would be absolutely shocked if the game mechanics aren't derivative too. Let's be realistic here. Naughty Dog isn't going to do survival gameplay in a super-fresh way like Dead State or anything. The game is going to be mostly mindless action, maybe with a bit of stealth and platforming, and maybe with a thin veneer of RPG-ish survival gameplay mechanics. They'll throw in a minor original mechanic or two on top of that, because that's in vogue this generation.

And no, I'm not giving Naughty Dog the benefit of the doubt. If anything, their previous success and reputation has given them the credibility and safety to make something truly original, but they've already squandered that.
 

DrPirate

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What if it ends up being good? I can understand the derivative, unoriginal claims about the setting of the movie (post-apocalyptical survival horror) but what if the game mechanics, the story/characters make it a worthwhile experience? Knowing the previous works of ND that doesn't balance you to a more wait-and-see approach giving them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I'm hoping that the thing that excited most of us in the infamous trailer of Dead Island will finally be delivered by ND. A serious adult take with character and story depth in a somewhat derivative setting.


Completely agree. Who cares if it's overdone? As long as its good and better than anything that's come out before (and this isn't that hard to do....)
 

Amir0x

Banned
Looks like you and I are alone then, cause the rest of GAF wants this to be linear and corridor so it might as well be Uncharted 4: Golden Brainzzzzzz

Frankly I'm more concerned that there are some GAFers who legitimately want the lead designer of Enslaved corrupting Naughty Dog's design talents or view that as a "good thing." That's even more terrible. It truly shows how frighteningly disconnected some GAFers are from what makes a quality game.

That said, I doubt he'll be able to have enough influence to ruin the game. But just the implication that Naughty Dog could learn a single fucking thing from the abysmal Ninja Theory is shockingly awful.
 

REV 09

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I have no doubt that this will be a captivating story, and was surprised that the reveal was a ND game, but the theme has certainly been done multiple times by now. Having NDs follow up to Uncharted be a zombie game is a little less exciting than it should be. This thread is already 44pages so I guess people will take whatever is dished out to them.
 

DrPirate

Banned
The fact that everything's so derivative makes it less good. Setting is a critical part of the experience and can make or break a game by itself (look at Bioshock for an example of the former).

I would be absolutely shocked if the game mechanics aren't derivative too. Let's be realistic here. Naughty Dog isn't going to do survival gameplay in a super-fresh way like Dead State or anything. The game is going to be mostly mindless action, maybe with a bit of stealth and platforming, and maybe with a thin veneer of RPG-ish survival gameplay mechanics.

And no, I'm not giving Naughty Dog the benefit of the doubt. If anything, their previous success and reputation has given them the credibility and safety to make something truly original, but they've already squandered that.

This is the fucking dumbest thing I've read all day. Good job.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
wut

this is wrong. The Uncharted cinematics are all rendered at 720p with the same image quality(jaggies and such) as the gameplay visuals. Differences are that shadow resolution is of perfect quality, higher quality skin shaders, better lighting quality probably and model complexity is upgraded for everyone especially the NPCs - the texture resolution on the characters is four times higher in cinematics:

Well, I haven't played U3 much but IQ was higher in U2 cinematics, it was the same case in U3 trailers as well so I assumed the game it self would be the same.
 
I really don't get this overdone argument anyway. I can probably count the number of high profile zombie games on one hand. Including Dead Island which was a surprise success, indicating to me there is some pent up demand for the genre
 

Frankfurt

Banned
Hilarious how one gaffer reccomended Enslaved to the people praising the look of this game, and he was openly mocked for it. Now, we find out it's the same art director. Naughty Dog fanboys in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
 
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