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[Foliorum Viridum]

Enslaved was a good game. Not great, not shit.

The art was the best thing about it, so this guy being at NG can only be a good thing, regardless of your feelings about Enslaved as a game.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Hard to say. They said every day is a fight for survival, so I'm going to guess we're going to frequently see plenty of these shroom zombies. As for the whole general survival theme, I think Dead Island will most closely resemble the thematic feel, whereas a Silent Hill mixed with Uncharted is how I think this gameplay will feel.

Survival would mean more than fighting in a world like that. It would be finding food for the day, finding a place to sleep at night etc. The bullet part seemed to be the best indication of the path that this game may be going down. She was excited after finding 3 usable bullets. That's very different from what you see in most zombie games. The trailer could obviously be misleading, but I don't see why we shouldn't take it for what it showed us so far. And what it showed us was potentially a unique take (at least in games) on the genre.

 

[alr1ght]

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

wow.

 

[derFeef]

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

Good thing you are not in charge in this industry in any form, then. (I hope)

 

[Amir0x]

Survival would mean more than fighting in a world like that. It would be finding food for the day, finding a place to sleep at night etc. The bullet part seemed to be the best indication of the path that this game may be going down. She was excited after finding 3 usable bullets. That's very different from what you see in most zombie games. The trailer could obviously be misleading, but I don't see why we shouldn't take it for what it showed us so far. And what it showed us was potentially a unique take (at least in games) on the genre.

I just hope they create a compelling self-contained world. If they're constantly pushing you forward to the next 'point', I'm not sure I'll feel much tension.

Tension is the key for the game you describe. That means death must be an actual punishment for failure to play or survive well. That means it must happen frequently and be a concern for your playthrough. I hope they understand that.

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

Hey, the porn star should be able to get a job as a teacher the same as that Ninja Theory STAFFer should, but I still lol'd. Presumably he was not alone in making those garbage products released by Ninja Theory. Maybe he only did the, er, one or two positive elements that existed in the game!

 

[Chairman Yang]

Which was only one in 2011, and none (so far) in 2012.

Why confine yourself to 2011 releases? People don't play games exclusively from the current year.

 

[Jarmel]

Is "Zombie" now the name that most of GAF refers to when it comes to mutant/infected enemy type?

It depends on how the virus works. If it kills the host then reanimates them with the fungus being mainly a visual element then yes they are zombies.

 

[Jme]

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

All aboard the hyperbole train! Choo choo

 

[Porkepik]

I liked Enslaved, maybe not the combat so much, but the world design was good... graphics were okay, a bit blocky, I surely want to see a post apocalyptic world done in NG technology.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

This worried me for a bit, but then I figured that this new ND team probably doesn't exist in a vacuum. I doubt one sole designer can ruin a game, considering all the talent that the studio houses either way. I'm not too worried about ND not knowing what to do with this game.

Yea, that's a good thing about this team (it seems). I know these guys are out to at least have some unique take on this type of game and we really haven't seen the I am Legend type done properly. I hold reserved judgement but my initial excitement is genuinely for my ND loyalty which they have earned. That being said, I hope the game is good and ND works their magic once again.

Tension is the key for the game you describe. That means death must be an actual punishment for failure to play or survive well. That means it must happen frequently and be a concern for your playthrough. I hope they understand that.

I hope they take that to heart too. It seems like they're on their way to that by the trailer at least.

 

[Sickboy007]

I'm judging based on the information and visuals available to me, along with the highly derivative nature of the Uncharted games. If Naughty Dog has something genuinely fresh and original to show me about the setting in this game, then I'm always open to changing my opinion.

Just from what we've seen i can already spot one or two original ideas, one being the form of contagion. Maybe it's just me but parasitic mushrooms make me queasy, and i haven't seen them anywhere else. Like you said, that's setting. For the gameplay i'm not expecting revolutions, but we haven't had a true big budget survival horror in a long time. The characters scavenge bullets and avoid confrontation, so that's that. Plus, there is the whole companion thing that could possibly have some innovations. There is also the possibility this is an open world game, with a difference of locales we don't know yet. It's far to early to call it predictable or derivative. And say what you want about ND but at least they make me care about their characters and in a claustrophobic horror the interactions between these two could be interesting.

 

[Corto]

Is "Zombie" now the name that most of GAF refers to when it comes to mutant/infected enemy type?

I think that term is being loosely used to describe a once human disposed of his free-will and rationality by any natural or super-natural mean.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Why confine yourself to 2011 releases? People don't play games exclusively from the current year.

So you'll be playing games from 2007/8/9/10/11 in 2012 when this game releases (hopefully)?

If you're gonna talk about overdone then you need to have a timeframe, otherwise everything is overdone.

 

[TheOddOne]

So is that the excuse to downplay it? Not that you've seen a lick of game mechanics.

True, but you can make some assumptions.

a) Looks like a guided type game, ND and Enslaved Design lead have both worked on such games.
b) It kind of gives out the Enslaved vibe, because it seems you will be protecting the girl. Maby the gameplay machanics of Enslaved are at play, but ofcourse with ND's focus being more polished.
c) Its looks like a very story driven game, focus on set pieces might be the case.

Then again, it might be more open. More branching sections, you could choose to fight the infected or just ignore them. I do agree that people are jumping the gun too fast on what the game might be, we have not seen or heard anything.

 

[KAL2006]

OK the game director for Uncharted 3 was Justin Richmond who was the main director for multiplayer in Uncharted 2. The game director of Uncharted 2 was Bruce Starley, so I am guessing he moved onto directing The Last of Us. I wonder if Amy Hennig is also a creative director for this game.

 

[Sylver]

Why people are comparing with Enslaved? You have to escort some other in Resident Evil 4, ICO too... We even didn't know anything about the gameplay. May be we only play with Ellie instead of the old man, or play with both...
So much Sony haters XD.

 

[Phonomezer]

Ahhh, this games design has Enslaved written all over it, figures.

I thought Enslaved was a great game.

 

[WolfForager]

Really didn't know there was this much GAF hate for Enslaved. :/

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

New godly-looking game from Naughty Dog - YES!

Remember the scary bits of Uncharted 1? Well.... - NOOOOOOO!!

 

[The Omega Man]

Working at Ninja Theory is as much of a stain on a resume to me as working as a porn star looking for a job as a school teacher.

 

[Bumhead]

Genuinely don't get the hate regarding the Enslaved link.

It's the lead designer from Enslaved working within Naughty Dog's remit, all being overseen by the main man behind Uncharted 2.

 

[tzare]

so now zombie games are shit to some it seems. Interesting. I hope none of them will be interested in 3ds's upcoming resi game.

 

[Akkad]

Day 1, in Naughty Gods I trust.

 

[Facism]

i have no issue with the the ex-NT guy. Probably wanted to be part of a great dev company that wasn't run by a guy who was more interested in his hair than actual games.

 

[Chuck Norris]

so now zombie games are shit to some it seems. Interesting. I hope none of them will be interested in 3ds's upcoming resi game.

I'm sure its okay when its the 9th (?) game in the franchise

 

[LiquidMetal14]

True, but you can make some assumptions.

a) Looks like a guided type game, ND and Enslaved Design lead have both worked on such games.
b) It kind of gives out the Enslaved vibe, because it seems you will be protecting the girl. Maby the gameplay machanics of Enslaved are at play, but ofcourse with ND's focus being more polished.
c) Its looks like a very story driven game, focus on set pieces might be the case.

Then again, it might be more open. More branching sections, you could choose to fight the infected or just ignore them. I do agree that people are jumping the gun too fast on what the game might be, we have not seen or heard anything.

I would hope for the best but it's not going to satisfy everyone's needs. It looks very promising though and I'm not a huge fan of horror minus the earlier RE games.

 

[Amir0x]

Really didn't know there was this much GAF hate for Enslaved. :/

the horror of sub-20fps gameplay frequently interspersed with horrendous input lag coupled to an abysmal combat system and atrocious level design and autoplatforming for tards as well as one of the worst written stories this gen understandably makes one a little hesitant

but it's only some GAFers. Others, as you can see right below your post, love it. It's an opinion. Throw yours own there, but I hope you can do more to describe why you like something than some of these other clowns can.

I highly doubt this guy has enough influence to ruin this game in any event.

New godly-looking game from Naughty Dog - YES!

Remember the scary bits of Uncharted 1? Well.... - NOOOOOOO!!

Hahaha, like I said this is an alternative universe where the statue of El Dorado was not prevented from coming up, thus turning the world into these crazy zombies.

 

[Thrakier]

so now zombie games are shit to some it seems. Interesting. I hope none of them will be interested in 3ds's upcoming resi game.

Worst thing is that there are no zombies in the game as far as we know. Fucking monsters yes, but so games aren't allowed to have enemies anymore? Like I said before: GAFs double standards are hilarious sometimes.

 

[Chairman Yang]

So you'll be playing games from 2007/8/9/10/11 in 2012 when this game releases (hopefully)?

If you're gonna talk about overdone then you need to have a timeframe, otherwise everything is overdone.

I think you're overthinking this. If people play a lot of similar games, they are going to find new similar games to be less interesting. Sometimes, with stuff like music games, people get bored pretty quickly. Sometimes, with genres like military FPSes, the public gets bored more slowly. The year of release doesn't matter all that much; would you agree that Rock Band-style games are overdone, despite only one coming out this year?

 

[TheOddOne]

I would hope for the best but it's not going to satisfy everyone's needs. It looks very promising though and I'm not a huge fan of horror minus the earlier RE games.

Yeah, ND has a fantastic track record so no worries.

 

[Uno Venova]

Enslaved was terrible gameplay wise, but it did have some redeeming qualities with anything that didn't have to do with gameplay, the animations, characters and graphics and atmosphere. The lead designer working on this doesn't effect my hype, because I know nothing about the game mechanics of The Last of Us besides it being a survival horror.

I'm surprised so many people seem incapable of not jumping the gun when it comes to this game based on a trickle of info.

 

[Chuck Norris]

New godly-looking game from Naughty Dog - YES!

Remember the scary bits of Uncharted 1? Well.... - NOOOOOOO!!

I think they were meant to be about as scary as the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

 

[keit4]

Enslaved lead designer? Hype -1000. What a terrible game.

 

[gcubed]

So you'll be playing games from 2007/8/9/10/11 in 2012 when this game releases (hopefully)?

If you're gonna talk about overdone then you need to have a timeframe, otherwise everything is overdone.

fucking platformers man, WAY overdone. I mean look at all of them that have released since the 80s!

 

[Self_Destructive]

People that think one person makes a game good or bad are ridiculous...

If Naughty Dog hired this guy...he's got the qualities they were looking for.

 

[Famassu]

Joke post? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zombie_video_games

Joke post?

80% of those aren't high-profile, there are quite a few unreleased games in that list of yours, the list has games like Monkey Island 2 (lulz @ it being a "zombie game") plus I think he meant this generation in particular. That list is awfully short for having a lot of small indie games & some DLC as well as spanning a multitude of decades & genres.

For this generation, there's Dead Rising (which is a zombie hack 'n slash), Dead Space & Resident Evil 5 (which are action/adventure games), Dead Island (first person open-world stuff) and Left 4 Dead (coop orientated FPS) + a few twin-stick shooters on PSN/XBLA. How people get "OMG SO TIRED OF DEM ZOMBIE GAMES" when many have probably not even played all of those yet they probably cream their pants with the mention of Sequel X to Generic Franchise Y.

Last of Us looks really good. Sure, the setting isn't the most original around (kind of like a mix of The Road & I Am Legend), but then again, people have suggested Naughty Dog should've made a game with a scifi or medieval setting, as if those would be original at all. Seriously, being original isn't the most important thing (if it was, Skyrim would be the worst game in existence), it's how well you execute what you try to do that is important. It's not like Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter or Uncharted were original. Naughty Dog just executed them really well, which is why people love those games.

 

[Chinner]

fps are overdone. racing is overdone. too many rpgs this year they're overdone.

console games are overdone. multiplayer games are overdone. mario games are overdone. gaming is overdone.

 

[Amir0x]

mario games are overdone.

this is fact though. doesn't fit with the rest of your post. There are like thirty three Mario releases every year.

 

[shintoki]

Ouch at lead design.

 

[Chinner]

Joke post?

80% of those aren't high-profile, there are quite a few unreleased games in that list of yours, the list has games like Monkey Island 2 (lulz @ it being a "zombie game") plus I think he meant this generation in particular. That list is awfully short for having a lot of small indie games & some DLC as well as spanning a multitude of decades & genres.

For this generation, there's Dead Rising (which is a zombie hack 'n slash), Dead Space & Resident Evil 5 (which are action/adventure games), Dead Island (first person open-world stuff) and Left 4 Dead (coop orientated FPS) + a few twin-stick shooters on PSN/XBLA. How people get "OMG SO TIRED OF DEM ZOMBIE GAMES" when many have probably not even played all of those yet they probably cream their pants with the mention of Sequel X to Generic Franchise Y.

Last of Us looks really good. Sure, the setting isn't the most original around (kind of like a mix of The Road & I Am Legend), but then again, people have suggested Naughty Dog should've made a game with a scifi or medieval setting, as if those would be original at all. Seriously, being original isn't the most important thing (if it was, Skyrim would be the worst game in existence), it's how well you execute what you try to do that is important. It's not like Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter or Uncharted were original. Naughty Dog just executed them really well, which is why people love those games.

but dead rising is a time management and resource game!

 

[SolidSnakex]

I can't believe that people are getting so upset about the Enslaved designer working on Uncharted. Have people forgot that Naughty Dog was responsible for Way of the Warrior at one point in their history? Several of those people went on to make Jak and Crash games.

 

[Chuck Norris]

People that think one person makes a game good or bad are ridiculous...

If Naughty Dog hired this guy...he's got the qualities they were looking for.

Seems that complaining about gameplay we don't know about and direction we've seen a glimpse of wasn't scraping the bottom of the barrel after all

 

[ZeroRay]

Enslaved lead designer? Hype -1000. What a terrible game.

But then again,

Uncharted 2 lead design and director in the top two spots for this one = Hype +1000. But really, I don't think one guy makes or breaks a game and I'm assuming ND hired him because they liked what they saw.

 

[ironcreed]

Just don't fill it with escort shit and I'm good.

 

[Akkad]

this is fact though. doesn't fit with the rest of your post. There are like thirty three Mario releases every year.

Take Mario add Tennis, Basketball, Party, Kart, and you have a game. Nintendo are so fucking lucky they have that mascot.

 

[Corto]

fps are overdone. racing is overdone. too many rpgs this year they're overdone.

console games are overdone. multiplayer games are overdone. mario games are overdone. gaming is overdone.

I want to hug you. Here, have a hug.

 

[Uno Venova]

Do we know exactly what this Enslaved director is doing and how much influence he has for the hype to drop for some just because he's working on it...

 

[dejan]

Underwhelming trailer by a developer I couldn't care less about, but at least it wasn't borderline offensive like some of the other stuff I've witnessed - yes, I'm looking at you BioWare - during that "award show".

 

[Akkad]

Do we know exactly what this Enslaved director is doing and how much influence he has for the hype to drop for some just because he's working on it...

According to this topic he is doing everything he can to destroy this game and Naughty Dog, what a jerk.