NHL December |OT| The Team You Cheer For is Not Good Compared To Our Team

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Is all the Eller talking just you guys messing with Manics? I dont watch many Habs games but I dont recall him doing anything last night, and a quick check on NHL.com shows him to have 2 goals and 7 assists in 30 games. I could see those numbers for a rookie but he played 77 games last year.

I've ripped Eller in the past but after watching him closely I see he has the tools to become a great power forward. He just needs to put it all together and work on his finishing touch. One year he's gonna bust out for a 35 goal season.
 
You're Habs property now, Supersonic. Enough with the Leafs chat.

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I liked it better when he would rip on everything. This cuddly toothless Manics is way less fun.

Perhaps Manics has gotten in touch with his humanity? All the medical tests that have befallen him this past year, that shit takes a toll you know? We have but one life, and why spend your time arguing all the time? I like this new and more relaxed Manics.
 
Just what this story needed, a cover up. So you aren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding intent? McQuaid is not a cheap shot artist and why would he go after the knee of a friend? There was no intent to injure and I think that's what both players were talking about.


Really?






Whoops.



Great point. Foligno missed 1 shift and was out there for the ensuing penalty. There was no intent to injure. $2,500 is the maximum amount a player can get fined and he got a 5 minute major plus a game misconduct.

Case closed.

Deal with it.
Damn, MacAttack killed with this post! Good job, dude!
 
Looks like Kaleta is a no-go tonight for the Sabres/Leafs game (or a game time decision at least). Didn't skate this morning and Buffalo recalled Colin Stuart from Rochester.
 
Mike Milbury charged in "child assault"

http://espn.go.com/boston/nhl/story...ins-player-mike-milbury-charged-assault-child

Sounds like his kid got in a scrap on the ice and he just went out there to grab the other kid and likely give him a "what the fuck are you doing!"

Honest to god, the fucking society we live in where this is classified as "verbal and physical assault of a minor."

Since when is it appropriate for an adult to charge onto the ice and grab a player at a pee-wee hockey game?
 
Apparently Connolly didn't catch up with any of his former teammates today (which is pretty unusual for a guy who spent a decade with the team). Says something about how he fit in that locker room last year.

I expect our home crowd to be pretty bad tonight.

Edit - Anything to get Milbury out of the broadcasts permanently is welcome news.
 
Milbury is a colossal moron. Hopefully this means the end of his television career.

What are you talking about?? He made some great trades with the Islanders.

Some of my favs:

01/23/96: G Damian Rhodes and D Wade Redden traded from NYI to OTT for G Don Beaupre, RW Martin Straka & D Bryan Berard.

02/06/98: Islanders trade D Bryan McCabe, C Todd Bertuzzi and a third-round draft pick(LW Jarkko Ruutu) to Vancouver for Trevor Linden. They also deal C Travis Green, D Doug Houda and RW Tony Tuzzolino to the Anaheim Mighty Ducks for RW Joe Sacco, C Mark Janssens and D J.J. Daigneault.

06/24/00: Islanders select Rick Dipietro with No. 1 overall pick. Select Raffi Torres with No. 5 overall pick.

06/24/00: Islanders trade G Roberto Luongo and F Olli Jokinen to the Florida Panthers for F Oleg Kvasha and Mark Parrish.

06/23/01: Islanders obtain C Alexei Yashin from Ottawa for D Zdeno Chara, RW Bill Muckalt, and the second overall pick in the 2001 Draft(C Jason Spezza).

There are plenty of others!
 
Since when is it appropriate for an adult to charge onto the ice and grab a player at a pee-wee hockey game?

I don't think you have ever played youth sports than. Again, I'd like to hear more. Kids do dumb shit and are yelled at, the rest is an argument of pussification. I remember giving a hard foul in basketball and having the opposing coach grab me by the cuff and yell right into my face. Right or wrong it's not uncommon.

My problem was some attempt at homerism with Milbury. I have no attachment to him either way. I don't think he is a bad analyst, just gets preachy sometimes which will divide people.
 
I don't think you have ever played youth sports than. Again, I'd like to hear more. Kids do dumb shit and are yelled at, the rest is an argument of pussification. I remember giving a hard foul in basketball and having the opposing coach grab me by the cuff and yell right into my face. Right or wrong it's not uncommon.

My problem was some attempt at homerism with Milbury. I have no attachment to him either way. I don't think he is a bad analyst, just gets preachy sometimes which will divide people.

I've never seen that once in my life, and I've played plenty of youth sports. This isn't really a grey area. If you grab a child that isn't yours, shake and threaten them you have committed a crime. You might get away with it, but getting away with something does not make it legal. He apparently had to be separated from the child by 'several coaches'.

If a coach in the NHL went out onto the ice, grabbed a player and threatened him that coach would be suspended for life. Why would it be more acceptable to do that to a child?
 
I've never seen that once in my life, and I've played plenty of youth sports. This isn't really a grey area. If you grab a child that isn't yours, shake and threaten them you have committed a crime. You might get away with it, but getting away with something does not make it legal. He apparently had to be separated from the child by 'several coaches'.

If a coach in the NHL went out onto the ice, grabbed a player and threatened him that coach would be suspended for life. Why would it be more acceptable to do that to a child?

Because they are grown adults?

The league is already known to have troubled youth. As a father, I would take an assault charge any day of the week to help my kid in a sticky situation. Milbury is also a coach. So even taking his son out of the equation if a kid was acting foolishly it likely would have a similar result. Even in college sports you see this kind of thing from time to time, not to mention little kids who are even less mature.

Again, I want to hear more about it. Right now it doesn't seem very extraordinary from any of the articles I have read.
 
I don't think you have ever played youth sports than. Again, I'd like to hear more. Kids do dumb shit and are yelled at, the rest is an argument of pussification. I remember giving a hard foul in basketball and having the opposing coach grab me by the cuff and yell right into my face. Right or wrong it's not uncommon.

My problem was some attempt at homerism with Milbury. I have no attachment to him either way. I don't think he is a bad analyst, just gets preachy sometimes which will divide people.

That was then. This is now. You don't touch other kids. Period.
 
We're accounting for the fact that Milbury should know that he's gonna face way more scrutiny in what he does at the rink since he's a freaking TV personality right? Is that not a consideration? I mean the alcoholic dad who spends a few days a week coaching his son's youth league is a moron I expect this from, and I mean... I expect it from Milbury too... but I also expect him to fucking know what's going to happen when he does it because he's the same guy who's gonna be talking about it on air when someone different does it.
 
We're accounting for the fact that Milbury should know that he's gonna face way more scrutiny in what he does at the rink since he's a freaking TV personality right? Is that not a consideration? I mean the alcoholic dad who spends a few days a week coaching his son's youth league is a moron I expect this from, and I mean... I expect it from Milbury too... but I also expect him to fucking know what's going to happen when he does it because he's the same guy who's gonna be talking about it on air when someone different does it.
Again, we don't have a ton of information. So if you were a tv personality Bruce, you wouldn't grab some kid off attacking your child?
 
Because they are grown adults?

The league is already known to have troubled youth. As a father, I would take an assault charge any day of the week to help my kid in a sticky situation. Milbury is also a coach. So even taking his son out of the equation if a kid was acting foolishly it likely would have a similar result. Even in college sports you see this kind of thing from time to time, not to mention little kids who are even less mature.

Again, I want to hear more about it. Right now it doesn't seem very extraordinary from any of the articles I have read.

It's the job of the referee to deal with situations on the ice, not the coaches or parents. If he felt another player had done something off-side, he had multiple different remedies at his disposal that didn't involve assaulting a 12 year-old.

Kid is pounding the shit out of another kid - you are within reach. What do you do?

As the story says, he didn't strike the kid.

Again, we don't have a ton of information. So if you were a tv personality Bruce, you wouldn't grab some kid off attacking your child?

Now who's jumping to conclusions?
 
It's the job of the referee to deal with situations on the ice, not the coaches or parents. If he felt another player had done something off-side, he had multiple different remedies at his disposal that didn't involve assaulting a 12 year-old.
So its okay for the ref to assault a child? What if the ref skates away and turns his eye to it?

The ref is in no different of a position.
 
...I'm going by the information I currently have.

I fear some of you ever have children. The lack of common sense here is a tad scary.

Are you serious? Are you insinuating that his kid was actually in danger getting into a fight with another 12 year old at a hockey game? If he was SUPPOSED to be doing anything it was getting his own damn kid out of there. Or he could let kids be kids and let them fucking deal with it. The refs will break them up. No one is in danger in these situations. There's a whole bunch of people there making sure of it.
 
Are you serious? Are you insinuating that his kid was actually in danger getting into a fight with another 12 year old at a hockey game? If he was SUPPOSED to be doing anything it was getting his own damn kid out of there. Or he could let kids be kids and let them fucking deal with it. The refs will break them up. No one is in danger in these situations. There's a whole bunch of people there making sure of it.
So just let the kids fight it out?
 
I'm seriously astounded by the notion that a parent's gut reaction should be to go after the other kid... Any scuffle I've ever seen between kids had the parents running to go grab their kid.
 
Eller's being played in a defensive role this year, and is one of our better defensive forwards, he just needs to find that finish, and once he does hopefully Martin will put him with 2 great wingers and the points will come. Issue is Martin's system forces him to play defensively and hinders the growth of his offence game, same with Louis, if Martin is here next season I'm going to cry. Also @ Solo I don't know if the team can afford to break up Patches-DD-Cole right now, they're the only dependable line the Habs have right now. Darche played more time on the PP then AK, and Patches, that alone should get him fired, and Cammalleri's done, he's on pace for 17 goals, he has shown he doesn't fit in here and is a waste of salary and cap space, maybe that could change under a new coach, but if they're going to stick with Martin and his system Cammy needs to be shipped out for someone else.

/rant
 
Milbury is a meathead. I think he's a great broadcaster but he's not without his faults. One of which is being a hot head. It seems like he went over the line, but I don't think he should lose his tv job over it. Maybe his coaching job, depending on what happened.

They mentioned on WEEI that there is a video of the incident, has anybody seen it?
 
I'll just leave it as we'll find out more soon.

Name something we could find out that would suggest Milbury should have gone after the other kid rather than his own? I'm not even talking about whether it would be a crime or not, or how often things like this happen. In what situation should a parent go after the other kid rather than trying to get his own kid out of the fight? Like you said, he grabbed the kid. Why not grab his son? Solves the problem still.
 
Dammit, got demoted to backup, in all fairness, I've had my first set of Uni finals ever and they dont end till next Wednesday :( I'm coming for my goddam starting positon soon!
 
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