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Fall 2011 Anime Thread |OT2| The Tampire is Coming
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I ask that because im not entirely sure who/what sanetoshi is apart from a "ghost" that somehow controls fate? and they show kanbas parents next to him when he mentions his "curse"
so mostly speculation or you dont know?
the kids part makes sense i guess
i forgot to include the one that bothered me most
what was the diary and why was it magic?
Mostly speculation. Almost
nothing is explained. I don't think they were hinting that the Takakura parents were Sanetoshi though. I think they were either saying that they were cursed like he was, or that he was the one making Kanba think he'd been talking to his (dead) parents
The last question is left unanswered in the show. We have no idea
what Momoka and Sanetoshi are, or why they have power.
Mawaru PenguinDrum Final
My brain is full of fuck but I was teary eye at the end. This show still have alot of questions to answer.
This post here actually makes some sense about this whole thing but still only Ikuhara knows.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13101108240A39480100&page=29#706
My brain is full of fuck but I was teary eye at the end. This show still have alot of questions to answer.
This post here actually makes some sense about this whole thing but still only Ikuhara knows.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13101108240A39480100&page=29#706
Jim E. Rossler
Banned
When I saw the art I immediately thought A1-PicturesDetails for KyoAni's new show have been revealed:
Director: Yasuhiro Takemoto (FMP series, Lucky Star)
Script: Shoji Gatoh (FMP series, Druaga series)
Character Design: Futoshi Nishiya (Nichijou)
Good art, as expected of modern KyoAni.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Agreed. Makes not reading Penguindrum stuff even easier.
Working'!! 12
God I love this show.
Daisy, noooooooooooo. ;_; Takanashi and Inami are adorable. I really hope there's a real conclusion this time around.
Really had no expectations going into this season, didn't like S1 at all and wasn't looking forward to S2. And now I'm hoping S3 is already in the works.
Mawaru Penguindrum finale
Honestly, I might need to rewatch this at some point because I'm 100% sure there are things I must have missed. As it stands now, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out where I stand on things. I will say, though, that I'm not a fan of the ending. A lot of the elements presented throughout the show's run ended up being ultimately useless and nothing but fluff. I probably wouldn't have minded had the ending blown me away but it didn't. Everything happened pretty much as most were speculating, in some fashion. It felt too 'safe' for my liking, or maybe I was just expecting something a bit more substantial than what we got. Perhaps the movie will deliver where this did this not.
It did look very pretty, I'll give it that. And the music was excellent, as was always the case.
Fixed that for ya.
Honestly, I might need to rewatch this at some point because I'm 100% sure there are things I must have missed. As it stands now, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out where I stand on things. I will say, though, that I'm not a fan of the ending. A lot of the elements presented throughout the show's run ended up being ultimately useless and nothing but fluff. I probably wouldn't have minded had the ending blown me away but it didn't. Everything happened pretty much as most were speculating, in some fashion. It felt too 'safe' for my liking, or maybe I was just expecting something a bit more substantial than what we got. Perhaps the movie will deliver where this did this not.
It did look very pretty, I'll give it that. And the music was excellent, as was always the case.
Fixed that for ya.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Reborn 146-150
Filler arc actually seems canon considering the most recent events in the manga, Box Weapons being developed and present in the past via Verde. I actually am stating to like this Arcobaleno Trials arc.
But wani wani is JPN for alligator, or is Tsuna and Lambo joking?
Filler arc actually seems canon considering the most recent events in the manga, Box Weapons being developed and present in the past via Verde. I actually am stating to like this Arcobaleno Trials arc.
But wani wani is JPN for alligator, or is Tsuna and Lambo joking?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
It really does. Music can really set the right mood, and Kouhei Tanaka is one of the very best. A few examples:
One Piece - Zoro
One Piece - I Can't Lose
Buso Renkin - Kazuki vs. Bravo (sadly I couldn't find this music on Youtube on its own. But this still works; this battle wouldn't have been anywhere near as amazing and emotional without his music driving it throughout!)
Sakura Taisen - We're are the Black Council
Angelic Layer - Morning has come
Angelic Layer - Enter the rival
Angelic Layer - Misaki
Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS team - At the Forefront of Battle
Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS team - Gundam Ez8 vs. Apsalus III
Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan - Osore o Matou
Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan - Kako tote
Violinist of Hamelin - Unfinished Concerto
Violinist of Hamelin - Advance Notice
Gunbuster - Gunbuster M-20
DieBuster - Inazuma Double Kick
Otaku no Video - Tatakae, Otaking!
Random Bonus: Kohei Tanaka plays (and sings!) We Are!
RPGCrazied
Member
Any good Fantasy ones on netflix streaming? Like Sword & Sorcery ones. Tears to Tiara was fantastic.
I don't use Netflix so I don't know what their selection is like, but if you liked Tears to Tiara you'd probably like anything they'd have there.
Utawarerumono is a little older and from the same creators, so you might want to start there.
Just as a disclaimer, I didn't care for either of them. I'm a little more comfortable recommending Moribito, 12 Kingdoms or Scrapped Princess if they have them. Just keep in mind they're more about the journey than the destination.
Utawarerumono is a little older and from the same creators, so you might want to start there.
Just as a disclaimer, I didn't care for either of them. I'm a little more comfortable recommending Moribito, 12 Kingdoms or Scrapped Princess if they have them. Just keep in mind they're more about the journey than the destination.
In other words 2 or more of them may not have the most satisfying endings.
After 6 months, I've finally finish Mawaru GaijinDrum. It's a fun ride watching this show and thinking what to make for this but nonetheless I've finish it. Thank you GAF for inspiring me to do this. Mawaru GaijinDrum Final.
http://i.imgur.com/wwnTA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wwnTA.jpg
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Clarity of plot is not necessary for something to be beautifully directed or emotionally touching.
And all it takes for an emotional resonance from some is a melancholic orchestration, if we're to disprove criticism by way of reduction.
Lol, as a guy who dropped both shows around the midpoints, only to watch their respective ends, I actually agree with 7th for once, not that my opinion really holds any merit in this instance.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Plot details are not as necessary in a character driven story than the actual character drama is what I'm saying.
That's being a good bit convenient. How does a show being 'character driven' give it a free pass on the idea of plot coherency/effectiveness, especially when it's through the plotting that we come to know the characters, and the potential to feel for their arch's conclusion? When it's within the plotting that we'll actually experience character drama, as you differentiate? To have a scene not resonate with you because of ineffective plotting is a perfectly reasonable stance.
Up to date again, with again 3 episodes seen in a row... astonishing overload (part 2)!
Imagery alone can produce emotional responses, but it largely depends on the situation, like previous experiences. In this case, I think the gained attachment to the characters on this story is enough to provoke those feelings, and there is much more to this series than that, but in other cases sentimentalism or visual message over explanatory content can certainly fall flat.
Quoted For Truth (although maybe this can be very subjective and depends on each person's interpretation).
Imagery alone can produce emotional responses, but it largely depends on the situation, like previous experiences. In this case, I think the gained attachment to the characters on this story is enough to provoke those feelings, and there is much more to this series than that, but in other cases sentimentalism or visual message over explanatory content can certainly fall flat.
... Why am I crying?
Beautiful stuff. I'm very happy with how the show ended.
I'm in Regulus's camp when it comes to plot details. They're less important than the visual symbolism, the characters, and the message.
chickdigger802
Banned
hmmm I find nagi to be one of the 'better' kugilolis. Fits the character archetype without being too annoying. Like the other gals of the show better though 
A lot of finales this week. Can't wait to watch them. Need to clean the house for guests =/
A lot of finales this week. Can't wait to watch them. Need to clean the house for guests =/
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Honda refuses to lose to Nissan and Subaru, funding it's own anime:
Director: Junichi Sato (Aria, Tamayura, Umi Monogatari)
Script: Kouhaku Kuroboshi (Kino's Journey, Sky Girls)
Production: Honda
Well so far so good but what is this actually about? Is this going to be some crazy awesome Initial D-Aria mix or what?
Subaru's anime wasn't about cars; Nissan's anime won't be about cars... why would Honda's anime be about cars?
Honda refuses to lose to Nissan and Subaru, funding it's own anime:
Director: Junichi Sato (Aria, Tamayura, Umi Monogatari)
Script: Kouhaku Kuroboshi (Kino's Journey, Sky Girls)
Production: Honda
Is this about cars that go to highchool? or highschool kids who are in a car nerd club in highschool? or maybe moe lolis who transform into cars?
Hope this more like the awesomness that is Initial d(one can dream).
What was Nissan and Subaru anime?
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Like Phi Brain was about the fragility of puzzles and one's gentle sadness at their solving?
Lol, I don't fucking know. Did it make you feel all :firehawk inside?
PdotMichael
Banned
Honda refuses to lose to Nissan and Subaru, funding it's own anime:
Director: Junichi Sato (Aria, Tamayura, Umi Monogatari)
Script: Kouhaku Kuroboshi (Kino's Journey, Sky Girls)
Production: Honda
something like this would be perfect:
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but I'm a dreamer
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Because the mystery of "what's the KIGA group/Sanetoshi" and the like was never the focus of the show, nor were they elements that were given too much attention to begin with. Even if they were explained they would add very little to the resolution.
Dedication Through Light
Member
sudoh-bucks?
Regulus, my point is that you can't separate the two. Plotting exists in every story, and if it's ineffective in its direction to some, to have its climax not resonate in whatever manner because of it is a perfectly reasonable stance. You're basically saying that,in your case, you either found the plotting of MPD effective enough, and/or need not actual narratorial depth for an emotional response, but a simple visual/aural trigger to evoke one, and that's perfectly fine, but some require different.
Jex
Member
Mawaru Penguindrum 24 (END)
Still wanted to see Sanetoshi get totally destroyed or something, though at least Momoka seems to have gotten the last laugh[...
Sanetoshi can only interact with the world through a few other people, possibly those connected to the incident. Those people are now gone so I guess he's stuck haunting wherever forever. Seems like a pretty shitty ending for him, I guess until he hatches another plot.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The on-screen aspects of the show were important, but not necessarily its primary focus. I wouldn't have liked Penguindrum if it had been only a flashy audiovisual spectacle of penguins and children doing stuff penguins and children are not supposed to do. MPD was effective because the plot serviced the character drama -all the stuff about the KIGA group and Sanetoshi being a hater are there to provide a setting and a rationalisation for what's happening to the Takakuras. And since the Takakuras themselves to do not care a lot for the stuff that happened in the past because of all the shit that we already know I do not feel bothered by their lack of resolution.
I expected a character piece from Penguindrum, not a mystery show. In that regard I was satisfied with how everything turned out.
Jex
Member
So what you're saying is that long words cause you some kind of difficulty and your mind switches off?
There sure was a lot of symbolism, right? I mean, even more so than usual. Ikuhara just getting more and more out there in his old age.
Well the whole show was pretty full of symbolism. I do have to agree somewhat with the criticism of some of the plotting, no you don't have to explain everything, but it is bad form to spend substantial amounts of time on mysteries that never lead to anything. It can be a fine line sometimes, but when we don't find out about stuff like
Shouma and Kanba in the cages until near the end of the show,
the entirely irrelevant Mario subplot, to name just one.
Jex
Member
I think this is the 7thist thing you've said in awhile. I believe congratulations are in order!
Which is my way of saying you're completely wrong.
As far as things go, that looks like a mostly sane interpretation.
Plot, in narratological terms, mean only the sequencing of events and their relations, events that can include anything, really. Every story is made up of the sequencing of something; every story has a plot. You're not the only one I've noticed make the weird conclusion that thick 'plot' somehow calls for a lack of characterization--character drama, as you put it--but that really isn't the case.
Jex
Member
I would certainly agree that most of those 'elements', like a vast majority of the elements in the show, were more about the symbolism behind them than some coherent and logical a to be plot structure. There presence was to discuss ideas as opposed to some believable back story.
How well they serve in that function is, of course, debatable, but at no point did I ever feel like the show was about these mysteries that would be explained at all, and definitely not in a traditional or rational manner.
It also raises the question of overall story pacing, as in, was a reasonable amount of time spent on thing that had no relevance to the overall story and/or towards the ideas 'symbolically' discussed by show.?
Honda refuses to lose to Nissan and Subaru, funding it's own anime:
Director: Junichi Sato (Aria, Tamayura, Umi Monogatari)
Script: Kouhaku Kuroboshi (Kino's Journey, Sky Girls)
Production: Honda
I'm interested in this.
Also, what anime did Nissan make? I know about the Subaru magical girl show with the weird logos and shit.
Penguindrum - 24
I think I can agree with most of that. I'm going to have to watch the series again.
I'm kinda scratching my head at some of the things in the end. I don't think it's a bad ending at all. I just think it's one of those things I'll need to rewatch. I think the whole point of the
The
is something I need to really go back and examine again.
All in all, a great show. Maybe in my top 5 of all time. Was going top 3 at some point but I dunno. If some of my questions aren't really answered, I can't possibly put it beside shows with have better closure.
If the links to the
is the ultimate way to
, then it might be a bit questionable as a plot device. Then again, this series
.
As a more symbolic plot device and
I think I can agree with most of that. I'm going to have to watch the series again.
I'm kinda scratching my head at some of the things in the end. I don't think it's a bad ending at all. I just think it's one of those things I'll need to rewatch. I think the whole point of the
cages/kanba and shoma thing at the end was to establish the final link between the 2 brothers. It kinda comes in a bit late but given the explanation that tvtropes link gives, it makes a lot of sense.
The
symbolism of white
All in all, a great show. Maybe in my top 5 of all time. Was going top 3 at some point but I dunno. If some of my questions aren't really answered, I can't possibly put it beside shows with have better closure.
If the links to the
actual terrorist attacks
explain Sanetoshi's more earthly backstory
was not necessarily made for the West, where knowledge of those attacks is known particularly well
As a more symbolic plot device and
actual antagonist, I think Sanetoshi filled his role. I just think I need to give the series maybe one more watch to truly appreciate it.
Hey man, I make sure to balance this shit out. Every now and then, I do like to be challenged but without going into fits of "what in the blue fuck?". Ergo Proxy, I'm looking at you.
Actually Un-Go might fit that role now, in terms of more recent anime. I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.
PdotMichael
Banned
You're Under Arrest - 11
A cute christmas episode about the christmas spirit and stuff.
And Maho-chan is soo...
http://www.abload.de/img/11youareaxkfr.gif
A cute christmas episode about the christmas spirit and stuff.
And Maho-chan is soo...
http://www.abload.de/img/11youareaxkfr.gif
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