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Football/Fútbol/Fussball/Calcio Thread 11/12 |OT5| Manchester Fragrance: Channel N°5
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I liked him at United. I don't think his game would age well, though.
Tried to listen to 606. Alan Green too much of a prat.
I think City have a lot to be happy about in regards to yesterday.
No Hart, Kolo, Yaya, Barry, Dzeko or Balotelli available to play.
Silva played half a game.
Played with 10 men for 80 minutes and gave United (who let's not forget are the champions of England) one hell of a run for their money. What's not to be happy about?
To be honest, as a City fan yesterday did not feel like a defeat.
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I'm going to take some pics of my new boots now! BRB!
How do you feel about the semi final? You without the Toure's and (possibly) Kompany, and us without Suarez and Lucas.
Will be a very interesting fixture on both legs I think.
LabouredSubterfuge
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How can you speak for what I or any other person feels? Don't make me laugh. You'd do well to find a pre-2008 City fan who is genuinely disgruntled at that performance.
I gave credit to United yesterday for showing up and taking advantage of the situation.
Shame that many people can't actually give credit back.
Yeah it's going to make it a much more even and interesting contest. I think you'll probably beat us at Anfield to be fair! We have to go there with a clean sheet in my eyes.
radioheadrule83
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Not really. They battered United 6-1 with an 11 man time and lost 3-2 with a 10 man team thanks, in part, to a refereeing decision that they don't agree with. Defeat is defeat, but that doesn't mean you can't take solace in the positives and kick on... which they will.
Suarez or no suarez, I'm looking forward to Liverpool v Man United in the next round!
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/7419959/PSG-would-appeal-to-Ba
PSG appeals to Demba Ba.
I'm worried about the summer now.
I also question his intentions if PSG is the club he's attracted to above all others.
PSG appeals to Demba Ba.
I'm worried about the summer now.
I also question his intentions if PSG is the club he's attracted to above all others.
Facism
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Since the official formation of the Turkish Football Federation.
Not sure why samsunspor though. They just came up to the Super Lig this year and look to be going straight back down again.
That's fine. But you still lost. And are out of another cup. And at the expense of your biggest rivals.
I understand its baby steps and winning 2 trophies would still represent progression for Manchester City, especially if one of them is the league. But there's still no guarantees City will win anything, and there's no reason why City shouldn't be expecting to go far and if possible win every competetion they enter.
City fans get incredibly defensive incredibly quickly about their position. Like they're desperate to be in the mix up with the big boys and sit at the top table. Yet at the same time some are seemingly happy to accept derby defeats, to accept getting knocked out of cups and to accept bad results. Moral victories mean nothing. You lost a game you should have won against a weaker team, irrespective of the fact your astronomically expensive side showed an ounce of fight in the 2nd half.
Its a pretty small time attitude. You boys should be fucking chomping at the bit.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I like Mat C.
I want in on his newsletter.
I want in on his newsletter.
I bought these to replace my Predator X's because they were starting to feel the rigors of playing every week. They served me really well and I'll keep hold of them.
The first thing which struck me about these is how light they are compared to the X's. The same leather is used which is soft and offers a great touch and control but I think it's down to the addition of the Sprint Frame which the F50's use. I couldn't play in F50's, I'd be scared of the lack of protection they offer.
The laces are offset to the left of the foot so you get plenty of clean striking area and that's accompanied by the 'Predator' material. The material itself is really varied, it's a mixture of fins, honeycomb and slightly wider, almost speed hump shaped parts. No it doesn't make you be able to swerve a freekick like Beckham but it does offer great control.
I always go for Firm Ground boots because of the surface I usually play on (3G astro and occasionally grass) and I had no trouble in maintaining balance, I never felt like I didn't have enough grip on the surface and I never slipped. It rained for a solid 3/4 hours before we played too so the surface was wet and zippy.
Overall I'm really happy with them. It will take a few weeks to get used to the lightness of them but my initial impressions are very good.
Yes we've fell out of one cup. But we are still competing in 3.
So if City showed 'an ounce of fight' to bring it back to 3-2 and almost score a winner with that free kick and header which went wide my question is:
When United were in the same position, 10 men against 11, in a derby game which they went on to lose 6-1, at home, what measurement of fight did they show?
I'm asking this because I can't recall seeing any United fan being proud of there teams display.
At the end of the day, win or lose, all a fan can ask of their team is that they try their best no matter what.
Good boots.
I can give credit, dc. I just think the chat about what the game felt like for City is, from the club at least, damage control. It's like something out of Deepak Chopra to just glide over being knocked out.
And we lost 6-1 in large part because we did attack. We just made a hash of it.
I can give credit, dc. I just think the chat about what the game felt like for City is, from the club at least, damage control. It's like something out of Deepak Chopra to just glide over being knocked out.
And we lost 6-1 in large part because we did attack. We just made a hash of it.
I have zero problems with losing to United. Yes it hurts a bit because of the rivalry and the intensity gather behind that rivalry over the past 2 seasons but at the end of the day they are a brilliant team.
Mancini has always said City are no where near them yet. He's always said City can't emulate United in one season, it takes 25 years.
Mancini has always said City are no where near them yet. He's always said City can't emulate United in one season, it takes 25 years.
United didn't show any fight and they got dicked and rolled over for it. Not sure what your point is there.
At the end of the day mate its upto you, im not trying to dictate how you should feel about your clubs results. It honestly just surprises me how readily so many are happy to accept the "moral victory". Its like an en-masse defensive mode, and I find that surprising from a group of fans who are normally so ready to tell the world they're ready to step up and start winning shit.
Appreciating the effort to fight in a game is one thing, but I cant think of a single scenario where id be happy or even content with a defeat against Sheffield United. We had a similar game earlier this season where we completed a comeback from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 by scoring twice (and nearly winning it) in the last 5 minutes. It was pure fucking elation but I was still gutted we didn't kill them earlier.
At the end of the day mate its upto you, im not trying to dictate how you should feel about your clubs results. It honestly just surprises me how readily so many are happy to accept the "moral victory". Its like an en-masse defensive mode, and I find that surprising from a group of fans who are normally so ready to tell the world they're ready to step up and start winning shit.
Appreciating the effort to fight in a game is one thing, but I cant think of a single scenario where id be happy or even content with a defeat against Sheffield United. We had a similar game earlier this season where we completed a comeback from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 by scoring twice (and nearly winning it) in the last 5 minutes. It was pure fucking elation but I was still gutted we didn't kill them earlier.
radioheadrule83
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He's too modest, they're better right now.
I've not said that I see it as a moral victory. Kompany said that, that's his view which is fair enough. I just said that I was proud of City's display and there's no shame in that.
Like Roy Keane says. You're not allowed to tackle anymore and to be honest, I was surprised Rooney did that. Because he knows how it feels to be sent off when it's debatable if you should go or not.
He's obviously forgotten Wink-gate.
No point in crying over spilt milk. But it's quite remarkable the similarities of those situations and how Rooney has gone from having it go against him to pressuring the ref when he was going to let play go on.
You're not really leaving it up to him - you've made numerous posts about his, and other City fans, reaction to the game. They're not happy they lost - they're proud of the effort their side put in against the PL Champions and Champions League finalists from last season - with 10 men for 80 minutes.
And his point is his side DID show fight and could have won the game - United showed none and got smashed at home. I know I'd rather be on the losing end of a narrow 3-2 defeat than lose 6-1 at home to my closest rivals.
Vivalaraza
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Players will always appeal for decisions and cards. It's totally natural in that environment and at that intensity IMO. Yes, you can go over-board, waving cards, being aggressive towards the ref etc, what Rooney did yesterday IMO...I don't think that's anything particularly out of order.
He's actually said many times about "wink-gate" that he understands why Ronaldo did what he did and that he would have done the exact same thing.
Personally I doubt Rooney got Kompany sent off, I really don't think ref's are that prone to pressure, not when it's just one player and it isn't even that OTT.
Edit - FWIW I don't agree United didn't show fight at OT. They were naive that's why they got smashed, not for a lack of effort IMO.
Double Edit - And Rooney's red card in that World Cup was not debatable. He knew what he was doing, fully deserved. In fact speaking of Rooney and red cards, he hardly ever gets sent off harshly, usually he is very lucky and gets more chances than most.
He's actually said many times about "wink-gate" that he understands why Ronaldo did what he did and that he would have done the exact same thing.
Personally I doubt Rooney got Kompany sent off, I really don't think ref's are that prone to pressure, not when it's just one player and it isn't even that OTT.
Edit - FWIW I don't agree United didn't show fight at OT. They were naive that's why they got smashed, not for a lack of effort IMO.
Double Edit - And Rooney's red card in that World Cup was not debatable. He knew what he was doing, fully deserved. In fact speaking of Rooney and red cards, he hardly ever gets sent off harshly, usually he is very lucky and gets more chances than most.
Agree with Mat on this one, City fans can dress it up all they want, but they should be massively disappointed with yesterday's game.
They conceded three goals at home, their captain and MVP looks set to miss their two legged tie to reach the Carling Cup Final and they're out of the FA Cup at the expense of their greatest rivals.
And it must be said that City were the favourites going into the game. I personally think it was a mistake to drop Hart. I know Pantilimon wasn't at fault for the goals, but I don't like the attitude of playing a second choice goalkeeper in the FA Cup, especially in a derby match.
They conceded three goals at home, their captain and MVP looks set to miss their two legged tie to reach the Carling Cup Final and they're out of the FA Cup at the expense of their greatest rivals.
And it must be said that City were the favourites going into the game. I personally think it was a mistake to drop Hart. I know Pantilimon wasn't at fault for the goals, but I don't like the attitude of playing a second choice goalkeeper in the FA Cup, especially in a derby match.
Vivalaraza
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I think the simplest way of putting it is...as far as derby defeats go, this wasn't a particularly bad way to lose.
Especially when you compare it to the way they've lost to United recently (late late goals)...and especially considering the situation at half time.
There are positives there for City, without doubt. But yes, a loss is a loss.
Especially when you compare it to the way they've lost to United recently (late late goals)...and especially considering the situation at half time.
There are positives there for City, without doubt. But yes, a loss is a loss.
Trailing by 3, you can't really blame them. But that's the sad reality of the Portuguese league, other teams are incompetent.
Obviously.
But I don't think there's any such thing as a good way to lose a derby game. I don't think there's a good way to go out of competetions teams should be looking to try and win. If City fans are proud of the performance then all power to them, whatever, but personally id be looking for the reaction. There's no excuse not to go out and destroy United to both the league and UEFA cup now. There's no reason why City should settle for second best to United. Alot of City fans have talked the talk all year about that but yet are now seemingly happy to be that 2nd best side in the name of pride of a losing result.
Being proud of a performance is one thing, but like I demonstrated with my own example earlier that shouldn't necessarily get in the way of dissapointment in losing a game against your biggest rival. It doesn't bother me personally but im genuienly surprised there hasn't been more fight in response to the game from City. I thought the Blue half of Manchester was developing more tooth than that. Its surprised me a little is all.
What reaction do you want? City play again this week - expect a reaction on the pitch. And they could well go on to destroy the league and Europa League - no-one is making excuses.
And granted; there's no 'good' way to lose a derby, but there are worse ways to lose a derby than City did.
SunhiLegend
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Honestly you can't say anyone other than Messi should win the award, he was phenomenal last year scoring in every stage of the champions league. Top performances against the top teams namely Real Madrid, and assisting more goals than anyone else in Barcelona. Although Xavi definetly deserves a Ballon D'or Messi is the best player in the world and so it should go to him.
Mr. Luchador
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You better be decent at football... really dislike colourful boot wearing 'nobodies' (no offence). Everyone should just wear black boots - Puma Kings.
Mr. Luchador
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Aye. If the most flamboyant, noticeable thing about your game is your boots... you have problems.
Haha. I give as good as I get and although I'm only like 5'10" I have quite a strong build. I don't get pushed around easily!
And to be fair the most garish Predators in my eyes are the black and red ones which are the 'classic' colour way.
My other Predators are white but if you saw them you wouldn't be able to tell haha because of what the black rubber and the astro does to them. They are like a dark grey now because of the leather wearing.
Preds were the last pair of boots I had, loved them.
Mine had metal blades though not silly plastic ones, they're no good for rugby. Those ones for me lasted surprisingly well, all the other pairs of Predators I had in seasons previous always came apart, unlike Nike boots which last forever.
Mine had metal blades though not silly plastic ones, they're no good for rugby. Those ones for me lasted surprisingly well, all the other pairs of Predators I had in seasons previous always came apart, unlike Nike boots which last forever.
Mancini wants a rematch after a mystery man is seen tampering with the ref.
But in all seriousness there are rumblings on Twitter that Chris Foy is going to be questioned by a independent panel. Let me see if I can find anything.
Oh and I don't understand why anyone would want Hughes. He's in bed with Kia.
Mancini wants a rematch after a mystery man is seen tampering with the ref.
But in all seriousness there are rumblings on Twitter that Chris Foy is going to be questioned by a independent panel. Let me see if I can find anything.
Oh and I don't understand why anyone would want Hughes. He's in bed with Kia.
That pic made me laugh too hard.
Vivalaraza
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Have City put up a tunnel-cam video for yesterday's game?
WAIT! Is that Cardoza? he can...run?
Benfica top of the league!
That's Rodrigo <3
Crazy Real doesn't want him, we'll take him.
Cardozo scored one too.
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