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Football/Fútbol/Fussball/Calcio Thread 11/12 |OT5| Manchester Fragrance: Channel N°5

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The black one? I have it with Suarez on it :P, I also have the home with Caroll on it (I know, what a fucking move by me) need to get the 3rd kit though.

Still to pick up the home one to my shame, got the lack one day one and would like the 3rd one it's nice
 
So Kompany and Silva out. That's very fortunate for us.

City will be riding high after their loss-that-was-as-good-as-a-win, though.

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Carroll needs to play for Stoke & Pulis. It is his destiny. I also think he would thrive.

QFT

I was thinking that as I chimed in...but couldn't bring myself to post it. That's the key to the Carroll problem really, Liverpool's style doesn't suit him. Another team would bend itself to such a weapon, even in the face of attractive football.

Stoke already possess a 'big man' in Crouchy, I wonder if Pullis could make the 'Get it in the box to the 2 big men' approach work. If anybody can he can...
 
So Kompany and Silva out. That's very fortunate for us.

And Yaya. That's the spine of City's team right there.

If Mancini continues Carling Cup trend and plays Costa Pantsamillion rather than Hart (which I doubt), I'd say a victory is on its way. As fantastic as Silva and Aguero are, Hart/Kompany/Yaya are the most important City players.
 
City will be riding high after their loss-that-was-as-good-as-a-win, though.

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I miss him :(

Bought a bunch of players on my Man Utd FIFA team also, would love it if we had this team in real life (sorry Cleverley, Hernandez and Welbeck, you must sit on the bench):

De Gay
Walker - Vidic - Kompany - Evra
Carrick - Modric - Tiote
Nani - Rooney - Young
 
Yaya too. Fuck, we need to grab this with both hands.

To be fair we won't play our full strength defence at least, with Carragher, Kelly and Coates set to play. I think Maxi and Spearing will get a good run out though which I'm pleased about. Wonder whether Kenny will save Gerrard for Saturday or play him tomorrow, not sure he's quite at the level to play two games in three days.
 
bbc gossip Blackburn manager Steve Kean's agent has questioned the motives behind the protests at Rovers and has suggested the fans involved are not "true supporters".
Full story: Lancashire Telegraph
shots fired
 
I'm against selling him for around 10m. Like you said, he's worth more. If he finds his old self in the second half of the season, we'll get more money in summer if he still wants to leave. If he doesn't find his form, we'd still get around 8 to 10m. A good replacement won't be cheap, so we really shouldn't sell him too quickly.
I'm with you, but you can't really hold a player against his will :/
Going into the remaining season with Lewandowski and Zidan/Perisic as back-ups would be pretty shitty :(
 
City has an excellent squad and their second string midfielders (Milner, Barry and Nasri) are still better than what we'll field (likely Adam and Spearing). That said we can still outplay them.
 
My friend just linked me to this video of the build up to England vs Germany in Euro 96. God how I wish we were hosting a tournament sometime soon...football's coming home is the best song ever. You will never get an atmosphere like that at an England match at the new shitty Wembley.

England vs Germany

(He actually sent it to me to see the England fans signing YNWA at about 7 minutes in which is also pretty cool.)
 
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I was thinking that as I chimed in...but couldn't bring myself to post it. That's the key to the Carroll problem really, Liverpool's style doesn't suit him. Another team would bend itself to such a weapon, even in the face of attractive football.

Stoke already possess a 'big man' in Crouchy, I wonder if Pullis could make the 'Get it in the box to the 2 big men' approach work. If anybody can he can...

Agreed.

Nothing wrong with "kick it long to the big man" if you have the right big men. I can see Carroll and Crouchy working well together. Crouch though has always been a bit of a different player imho. Carroll is as close to a classic English style center forward as you are likely to get.

Right now Carroll just doesnt fit in with Liverpools style I guess. I am still stunned that he and Downing have not struck up an almighty assist/scoring partnership. My guess is kenny is stunned as well.
 
The longer the better, as long as he hides his face I guess :P
A burqa if he wants to walk around in torino


I hear he asked for a transfer? Catania sounds great really.

Rumours that I had heard was that Juventus had actually requested the transfer for him from Lecce. Basically, it boiled down to play him or we'd call him back and send him elsewhere. Apparently Marotta was quite upset as there was some informal agreement that both he and Giandonato would be getting used more than they have.

I pulled Cesena and Catania out of my ass though. I've been supplementing Football-Italia with La Gazzetta and the odd forum. Where do you go for your your Juvenews?

it seems we might be close to signing mesbah from lecce

i know we need midfielders but i really wanted montolivo :( i don't know anything about mesbah

Mesbah? The gold tie has lost his touch, I see. He was far below average against us and we were having a well below average game. Then again, I guess both Milan squads need a Muntari figure. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat you to Montolivo. After all, we have on offer the player Fiorentina has always needed:

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Seriously. He'll be a beast for Fiorentina. He's shit for big teams but, yeah, this is Fiorentina so he'll do fine.
 
This video here makes me very happy at times and others it makes me very sad. Xavi is going to leave a massive hole in barcelona when he finally retires and it will be a damn shame that he never got to win a Balon D'Or. Some of this video is just magical

Xavi - 132 Assists for FC Barcelona (2001-2011
)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqaKe9sR5k&feature=player_embedded

Take his first assist (for overmars vs liverpool) in that video, its just amazing.
 
Man City told Danny Welbeck he wasn't good enough when he was 8 years old. Man that goal on the weekend must have been so so sweet. Really starting to love Welbeck. Just wish his nickname wasn't the cringeworthy "Welbz".

Here's a video of Ruud teaching Welbeck when he was 10/11 years old, pretty cool.

RVN teaching United kids

Larnell Cole in the end of that video too, he's been on the bench a few times for us this season. Pretty sure Cleverley is about in the same series.
 
Wilbury I watched Hugo yesterday, was hoping it would be a bit more powerful with the story - but still, a beautiful film indeed! The scenery was phenomenal and the soundtrack was so fitting.

FUCK YOU MALAGA

Did you see it? Another howler from Malaga. The crazy reality is with a bit of focus they could have knocked out Madrid in these 2 games.

Yaya too.

Viva Welbeck's head looks like it's slightly off of his body in your avatar :P
 
I wanted to watch that... :/

Hope to see the real thing in a few weeks. That said, I'd expect a gradual return, however much we need what he can offer.

Ferg clearly sees top level goals in him. I'd be delighted with him as a creator, but he can seemingly finish.
 
That must be one of the most heartbreaking jobs. I was thinking this last season when City won the FA Cup. The moment they won it the online store was filled with memento's and the like available for immediate sale etc.

The website had wallpapers go up and all sorts.

They must have to prepare all of that days and weeks in advance. Imagine if City lost, it would have all been for nothing. :(:(

City can still do a job tonight without Silva. It's time for Nasri to step up to the plate.
 
That must be one of the most heartbreaking jobs. I was thinking this last season when City won the FA Cup. The moment they won it the online store was filled with memento's and the like available for immediate sale etc.

The website had wallpapers go up and all sorts.

They must have to prepare all of that days and weeks in advance. Imagine if City lost, it would have all been for nothing. :(:(

City can still do a job tonight without Silva. It's time for Nasri to step up to the plate.

I wouldnt be relying on Nasri too much mate. Is Barry going to be available? Far more important player for you lot imho.
 
No Silva, Yaya, Kolo, or Kompany. That really sucks. Nasri can be great at times - he was excellent against Arsenal. And at least Barry returns. Hopefully Mario does too.

Do you know if Mario is fit to start dc?
 
No Silva, Yaya, Kolo, or Kompany. That really sucks. Nasri can be great at times - he was excellent against Arsenal. And at least Barry returns. Hopefully Mario does too.

Do you know if Mario is fit to start dc?

Balotelli and Dzeko are apparently both fit and should feature in some way.

I certainly hope so. Aguero is awesome up top but I think he will need some assistance tonight!

Edit: Quick look and Dzeko is more of a doubt then I thought! :(
 
A really good piece on Sergio Aguero in the Independent. I won't copy it all, here is a bit though.

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He could hardly have looked better in his briefly delayed debut as a substitute against Swansea at the start of the season. Two goals, a brilliant assist for David Silva, brought instant enchantment. But would it last, would Andy Gray's fear for Lionel Messi on a rainy day at Stoke be quickly transferred to his glittering compatriot?

It seemed like a valid question – right up to his extraordinary weekend performance in a losing cause against Manchester United.

Roy Keane, the relentless pragmatist, sniffed at suggestions that City had scored a moral victory after going down to 10 men in 12 minutes. He said that the only thing that mattered was that United were going into the fourth-round draw.

But then not to Aguero, it seemed fair to say. What mattered to him was that he served his team with every scrap of the best of himself. He ran endlessly, he held together the wonderful certainties of his skill and judgement, and he scored the goal that might just have conjured one of the most extraordinary results in FA Cup history.

For some of us the 23-year-old Argentine also hardened the suspicion that his arrival at City signalled rather more than the acquisition of another expensive and undoubtedly gifted performer. It may have been a bit of a reach but that night against Swansea when he combined so exquisitely with Silva, when he released an attacking urge that was simply stunning, it seemed Manchester City's ambition might indeed be entering an entirely new phase...

Keane said that Mancini took away only a defeat but surely it wasn't so. The City manager, a football man not keen on making himself a captive of any kind of hubris, declared that yes, while playing like that with 10 men for most the game, City could indeed win the Premier League.
 
Balotelli and Dzeko are apparently both fit and should feature in some way.

I certainly hope so. Aguero is awesome up top but I think he will need some assistance tonight!

Edit: Quick look and Dzeko is more of a doubt then I thought! :(

I missed Mario. I hope he starts. But damn, Dzeko with a knock too? In this case a good start would be - Hart as the keeper, Zabaleta, Micah, Lescott/Clichy, and Kolarov in the back. Then Milner, Barry, and Johnson in the middle. Samir Nasri up front a bit, with Baloteeli and Aguero on the attack. What do you think?
 
Yes Fady. I think we will see something like this tonight:

-------------------Hart--------------------
Richards Savic/Zabaleta Lescott Clichy
----------Barry------De Jong------------
Milner------------Nasri---------Balotelli/Johnson
-----------------Aguero-------------------

I think Hargreaves might feature at some point too. I know the plan was to have him playing Premier League come January and that hasn't happened yet. Which is why I think that City will buy a midfielder in this window.
 
This video here makes me very happy at times and others it makes me very sad. Xavi is going to leave a massive hole in barcelona when he finally retires and it will be a damn shame that he never got to win a Balon D'Or. Some of this video is just magical

Xavi - 132 Assists for FC Barcelona (2001-2011
)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqaKe9sR5k&feature=player_embedded

Take his first assist (for overmars vs liverpool) in that video, its just amazing.



Pure art.
 
Yes Fady. I think we will see something like this tonight:

-------------------Hart--------------------
Richards Savic/Zabaleta Lescott Clichy
----------Barry------De Jong------------
Milner------------Nasri---------Balotelli/Johnson
-----------------Aguero-------------------

I think Hargreaves might feature at some point too. I know the plan was to have him playing Premier League come January and that hasn't happened yet. Which is why I think that City will buy a midfielder in this window.

Good line up bro. Personally I would rather Balotelli, Johnson, and Aguero all start. Also, what are your thoughts on Kolarov?
 
Martin Samuel (my favourite football writer) has got a great piece on Balotelli in the Daily Mail today:


There is a short film of Mario Balotelli in which the striker is decorating Christmas cakes for children at a Manchester City party. He is very focused on this task, irritated when his little snowmen fall over and profoundly serious about making his iced topping look the best.

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And then his attention is caught by a small plastic object on the decorating table. He picks it up, inspects it intently. He asks Nigel de Jong to explain.

De Jong says that it is a party popper, and mimes pulling the string to make the barrel explode. At which point, Balotelli turns to an unsuspecting Joleon Lescott and, holding the capsule an inch from his face, yanks the cord. He then goes back to his cake as if nothing has happened.

Over Balotelli’s shoulder, the lunacy of the event is captured in Gareth Barry’s startled expression. He doesn’t know if Lescott is hurt or angry, he does not know if this is the point at which a less indulgent individual — Craig Bellamy, perhaps — might start looking for a handy five-iron, or whether everyone is going to curl up laughing instead.

The tape ends with Noel Gallagher speculating that, when Balotelli one day leaves City, he will probably be fired from a cannon. Certainly, it will be spectacular.

Ready for some more Balotelli? Here goes. The other day at the Manchester City training ground, workers in the front office were surprised to see a familiar black sports car eschewing its usual parking space and heading towards the large glass frontage at a significant lick.

Just as those inside were preparing to dive for cover, the car halted, close enough for the automatic glass doors to part silently. And Balotelli’s curiosity was satisfied. As he explained to nervous staff afterwards, he knew the doors worked when a person walked towards them, but a car…

Perhaps you had to be there. The point is this. It is quite likely that, when Balotelli arrived at the Carrington site that morning, it was not in his mind to impersonate a ram-raider, just as when Gascoigne departed training that morning on Teesside, he had not already undertaken to joyride the team bus.

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Kolarov is good going forward and he has a evil left foot on him! His free kicks are usually quite good, he's scored 2 I can remember this season. I think he has his frailties as a left back though. He can be rash, he reminds me of what Zaba used to be like, you used to worry every time he was defending in the area as he had a penchant to dive in.
 
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