Seattle reporting in. (Though not gay enough IMO.)
Kinda surprised Oregon's mentioned three times.
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Kinda surprised Oregon's mentioned three times.
krypt0nian
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I did just get back form my first Orlando Gay Chorus practice/orientation and it was a record turnout for new members. We're at 120+ members!
Want a self esteem boost? Join a gay choir as a new member and get drool all over you all night long...all night...all night long </RubyRod>
"I have a long term partner" didn't even make em blink.
I knew I was attracted to this state for a reason. I thought it was so we could ride our Harleys all Winter long. Dummy me.
Want a self esteem boost? Join a gay choir as a new member and get drool all over you all night long...all night...all night long </RubyRod>
"I have a long term partner" didn't even make em blink.
I knew I was attracted to this state for a reason. I thought it was so we could ride our Harleys all Winter long. Dummy me.
MidnightScott
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I live in Houston as well XD
I'm going to dinner with a guy tomorrow and then we are going bowling. It's not a date but the first time we are meeting. We have a mutual friend.
Spiritreaver
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Oh dear lord. A WNBA team makes you gay now?Bahaha, just looked at their site. Quite a scientific breakdown they were going on...
Going back a bit here, but why did the the creators decide to use a different grammar structure anyway? Deaf people read and write standard English. So why make people learn two grammar systems?
I honestly have no clue. I think it's because (at least for ASL, I can't speak for other language/region's SL's) it's based on French (kinda like English... *bah-dum-psh?*) because a Frenchmen started it for a deaf group. Then like English it kinda took on it's own forum/vocabulary.
And yes: That's what one of my friends said: "I'll sign however the hell I want." And this person teaches "ASL"/signs in Pidgin formats to hearing people that want to learn. So that elitist douche and Galludet can go fuck themselves.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Huh.
Damn right. Thanks for the explanation.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Well, well...
Spiritreaver
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Man I dunno, I was really disappointed with WeHo when I was out there, I mean I had a great time and loved the area, but I was honestly expecting more.
Then again, none of the big city gay areas I've been to is even on that list. However Salt Lake is not surprising at all, looking at FB gazillion gay friends in that area, I should probably pay it a visit some time hah.
I know, right? The Advocate even mentions West Hollywood in the article accompanying the results. But as mentioned in the little chart Cosmic Bus posted, it's per capita. That's why relatively tiny cities take the top spots.
Spiritreaver
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Well ugh, why even bother then, no wonder that list makes next to no sense.
I feel the grammar is too rigid in ASL at times. It's probably why I prefer Pidgin/Signed English. I can make the same mistakes in English sentences in sign and for the most part it's easier to "translate" sentences from English to "ASL"/Pidgin so someone can "get the gist" if they can't lip-read but know signs and the person talking is a hearing/little-known-signs signer.
"Songs in Sign" is a new meme to me.
I also had someone link to this which is OMG NSFW.
I struggle enough with spoken grammar, that confused the hell out of me
I did like the way topics work though, if I understood it correctly.I struggle enough with spoken grammar, that confused the hell out of me
Having to worry about the "3D space" (Future is in front, present is your "body" past is behind/over the shoulder) is enough of a headache for me. Restructuring my sentences to "proper grammar" when I have terrible grammar in English already is a headache.
But ASL/signs also require massive facial expressions that Pidgin kinda loses (at least to me it does) which also loses some of the "voice" of ASL. So I can see why some of the Deaf community probably wouldn't like Pidgin because of that "attack on their culture" but *shrug*.
MidnightScott
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Oh my god, really XD
I mean, I live right by WeHo, and it's the gayest. Mormons are hot though, I'd love to go to Salt Lake.
I grew up closeted in LA, and I used to always fantasize about going to WeHo.
Moved away for school and never got the chance, though.
krypt0nian
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Other than the blatant cruising, how was it?
I loved it. 3 hours wasn't enough. I really missed the feeling only choral singing can give you. Closest thing to church I have.
And man are they good! Are you going to GALA?
I'm glad!
And ugh, I WISH I was going to GALA, but I can't get away.
I warn you though, GALA's like Pride x10. You think the cruising in your rehearsals is bad? Wait until you get to the hotel during GALA...
krypt0nian
Banned
I'm glad!
And ugh, I WISH I was going to GALA, but I can't get away.
I warn you though, GALA's like Pride x10. You think the cruising in your rehearsals is bad? Wait until you get to the hotel during GALA...
I was "worried" about that a bit on the car ride home. It's something I can handle its just not something I'm used to. We're definitely not scene gays. Haha.
The amount of guys with Grindr open during break was hysterical!
Spiritreaver
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Tell me about it, I don't think a single one of the guys in SLC isn't hot.
And man, I actually went and did a RealJock meetup in NYC a few months back and actually wouldn't mind participating in any kind of GayGAF meetup whereever it may be.
Also, completely random, but we should do a community video thing. We did one on RJ last year and it was really neat as you get to see/hear people and talk about various things. When we did it we had to talk about three important things happening in the summer. It was a really cool idea and I think it'd work well here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJPm22SezU4
It's more or less the same in Spanish. You have the propper sign language and you also have bi-modal, which mixes sign and spoken and is mainly used to quickly give families a communication tool while getting the kid used to lip reading and paying attention to sounds with whichever residual hearing they have. They will eventually learn propper SL really quick as soon as they're put in contact with other deaf people so there's no downsides.
Also, the main reason for the differences between SL and spoken languages is that SL is a natural language that happened and evolved as such so the disconnection is completely normal, and even keeps evolving. For example, I know a friend of a friend whose parents are deaf but he's not so SL is his mother tongue (along with spoken Spanish, which he learnt from other relatives, TV and school), but with the peculiarity that he's often told he signs like and old person and uses outdated signs because he hasn't been a lot in contact with deaf people of his age.
Maybe someone should compile a list of our locations
You'd think that but nope, gays are some of the most cliquish people ever. It's really ironic when a minority group excludes one other. To me, masculinity is such as joke word that gets tossed around by those who are most likely both shallow and insecure. Let's face it, we all exhibit feminine qualities be it straight or gay. "Straight acting" is silly as well.
You'd think that but nope, gays are some of the most cliquish people ever. It's really ironic when a minority group excludes one other. To me, masculinity is such as joke word that gets tossed around by those who are most likely both shallow and insecure. Let's face it, we all exhibit feminine qualities be it straight or gay. "Straight acting" is silly as well.
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again, I don't think that's a gay thing, that's a "I'M LOOKING FOR A DATE AND/OR SEX" thing. It sucks, but it pops up in males, females, gays and straights.
i_am_ben
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Preach it.
krypt0nian
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This keeps coming up.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having preferences in sexual partners relating to feminine/masculine qualities. It's not cliquish or bigoted or wrong in any way.
People are turned on by what they are turned on by, and equally turned off by other traits.
For me, my cock goes limp as soon as someone shows signs of being overtly feminine. That's the way if goes. I don't feel good or bad about it. It simply is.
Others find the guys I'm attracted to gross or too masculine. And that's fine. There really is someone for everyone.
I just see too much grief given to guys that prefer or are turned on by certain guys.
I do agree that "straight acting" is a silly term but it's really just a short hand that's grown around the Internet and more lazy than anything else. Maybe a bit self hating but unintentionally and language is a mutable thing after all.
*not aimed at you or anyone specific, Rez. I just saw the jist and had to chime in.
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Deleted member 30609
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That's basically what I meant, although it was a bit ambiguous.
If we limit our discussion on sexual attraction, then yes, I am totally in agreement with you and Rez. We all have our preferences and no one should feel sorry for what they like or dislike. However, I think the feeling of exclusivity is much more pervasive than that. Krypt0ian, you are a very handsome guy and as far as I can tell, well spoken and intelligent. I would bet that there aren't many instances where you are not well received (and in that sense, maybe you aren't as aware of the cliquishness in the community). However, others aren't so lucky (I would venture to say that some people here can speak from personal experiences), and we're not even talking about dating, just casual associations.
We all tend to gravitate to certain groups, regardless of gender, race or sexual preference. It just seem much more prevalent in the gay community to me. Anyway, just my observation so I could be completely wrong
krypt0nian
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If we limit our discussion on sexual attraction, then yes, I am totally in agreement with you and Rez. We all have our preferences and no one should feel sorry for what they like or dislike. However, I think the feeling of exclusivity is much more pervasive than that. Krypt0ian, you are a very handsome guy and as far as I can tell, well spoken and intelligent. I would bet that there aren't many instances where you are not well received (and in that sense, maybe you aren't as aware of the cliquishness in the community). However, others aren't so lucky (I would venture to say that some people here can speak from personal experiences), and we're not even talking about dating, just casual associations.
We all tend to gravitate to certain groups, regardless of gender, race or sexual preference. It just seem much more prevalent in the gay community to me. Anyway, just my observation so I could be completely wrong
No no. On a social level, I agree. There are far too many sub groups in the gay community, and that would be fine if they weren't so very exclusionary. It's a lot like High School Extended Anniversary Edition, and while a bit of it is normal, we seem to take it to unnecessary levels.
My comment was after I saw the Grindr reference, and it seems most would agree that preferences are fine. Although I have seen others in the past here tell me it wasn't.
My frustration with the whole sexual preference issue ("staight-acting" vs effeminate and everything in between) is that a lot of men who so strictly adhere to only seeking out their "type" tend to exclude anyone else all together, which is to me is a very parochial approach to life and screams denial and an overall unwillingness to accept being a homosexual.
I understand not being sexually attracted to a specific type but they use it more often than not as an excuse not to interact with these types at all, which creates a huge divide in the community.
I openly admit that I am not attracted to effeminate men, but a lot of my friends have those traits and it doesn't bother me in the least. I can't count how many times I've dated guys who constantly feel the need to reassert their masculinity by flat out saying they aren't into fems. Get over it already.
I understand not being sexually attracted to a specific type but they use it more often than not as an excuse not to interact with these types at all, which creates a huge divide in the community.
I openly admit that I am not attracted to effeminate men, but a lot of my friends have those traits and it doesn't bother me in the least. I can't count how many times I've dated guys who constantly feel the need to reassert their masculinity by flat out saying they aren't into fems. Get over it already.
Well, I'm just glad that you didn't take my comment as a jab towards you, since I really meant them as compliments
Spiritreaver
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What saddens me most is that we still have these discussions across all gay communities. Preferences aside we should honestly be embracing everyone, but we're so darn judgmental.
Yeah, attraction isn't the issue, it's turning it into a big "no homo" sort of thing.
The Abominable Snowman
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Well, theres also something I noticed about the gay community:
Masculine men are traditionally into other masculine men.
Feminine men are traditionally more into masculine men.
Masculine men feel 'above' feminine men because they turn them down all the time and hit them up most frequently for dating or hookup
Feminine men feel spurned by masculine men
Masculine men try to hide their identity more from feminine men
Feminine men try to 'out' masculine men to their friends
It's all so interesting. Myself being a "Str8 acting" guy when I was younger I used to have the whole "Can't be seen by fems, cant be around fems, etc" persona but I've matured, but I reckon alot of younger guys still hold that mentality
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inarticulate, insecure people belittle others as a means of elevating themselves, news at eleven.
Spiritreaver
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Exactly! Which is why I try my damned hardest to squelch this way of thinking when I can, especially with my friends.
As a masculine guy I am not afraid to show any side of myself, always honest and open with my sexuality and behavior. You can be masculine and still show feminine traits, hell that's more healthy than any guy who tells you he's "uber masculine" or "straight-acting".
When it comes to effeminate guys I don't think I'm better than them, hell a lot of the time I think they're better than me. To be able to be give off that side of themselves despite how much grief they get from not only the gay community but society as a whole is admirable.
With my friends they have a bad habit of trying to uplift me for being a masculine guy and put down effeminate guys. I just won't have it when I'm around. I have friends of all types, masculine, feminine, closet cases. What my dating preference is shouldn't extend toward my social views.
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greatly, greatly, greatly exaggerated.
surround yourself with stupid people and you'll experience stupid people. and so on.
The Abominable Snowman
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Eh, its a very very very open generalization. It often falls untrue for many people in the lifestyle. However, I have encountered far too many people whom it does fall true for.
Its the same thing as black gays loving Beyonce and white gays loving Lady Gaga.
Or "the gays" that don't like Beyonce, Gaga, Britney and/or Madonna; and are seen as if something's wrong with them.
Come at me bitches!! I don't like any of them!!!
Don't hate them neither .. 
I completely agree. However, when asked on grindr if "u masc?", what do guys really think the response is gonna be? "Uh, no I'm watching Glee right now and shaving my legs"?
That's a thing?
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