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Football/Fútbol/Fussball/Calcio Thread 11/12 |OT5| Manchester Fragrance: Channel N°5
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Gareth Bale
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Pretty sure they'd make him stay and support the rest of the squad.
Repost for you Arnie since it was the last post on the page.
Gareth Bale
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When you've got Avram Grant in charge, the captain usually takes over the role as manager.
Vivalaraza
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Wenger - Football has sold it' soul to TV
Wenger speaks about certain clubs having influence over the TV broadcasters and therefore having an advantage in the way fixtures are arranged.
I agree with him that TV is dictating a bit too much of the scheduling these days. I also don't doubt there is an advantage to be had for some clubs in terms of how popular they are.
However it seems Wenger is suggesting there is a more direct contact between some clubs and the broadcasters here...at least that's the impression I get. What do people think, which clubs could he be referring to and why?
Wenger speaks about certain clubs having influence over the TV broadcasters and therefore having an advantage in the way fixtures are arranged.
I agree with him that TV is dictating a bit too much of the scheduling these days. I also don't doubt there is an advantage to be had for some clubs in terms of how popular they are.
However it seems Wenger is suggesting there is a more direct contact between some clubs and the broadcasters here...at least that's the impression I get. What do people think, which clubs could he be referring to and why?
If we do anything it will be a full back in either case. Basically the side we have is the side we will finish the season with. If we can keep RvP fit we will have a big chance at making the top 4 but a little too much reliance on 1 player for my liking.
I do expect RvP to extend his contract in the off season though should we make the top 4.
I'll agree the analogy was hyperbolic, and was a way of me injecting some lighter emotion into the piece, but I personally back the general sentiment of it; irrelevant of past injuries, Lampard is no longer top dog at the club, he's no longer centre of attention. There are fresher faces who're like you've well pointed out below pushing their way into Villas-Boas' team selection on a regular basis.
Perhaps it was unfair of me to make an apples to apples comparison, considering Lampard is two years Gerrard's senior, but again, the general sense of it works.
I'm not quite sure I buy this. I personally think Gerrard would walk into the Chelsea team tomorrow, if AVB were able to select him. And I wouldn't say the Chelsea midfield is vastly beyond Liverpool's at the moment, in fact I think it'd take some doing to convince me they were superior.
Mata, of course, is the obvious exception, but the rest of them are comparable to what's available for us. I think Lucas is the best defensive player out of the lot, Meireles has been pretty subdued for you whilst Henderson's flourished somewhat these last couple of months, and Adam's been a steady signing so far, similar to Romeu.
I think if both squads were at full fitness, Gerrard would start for either. The class he's showed since his return has proved as such. His passing, delivery and ability to attack the goal is still superb, after more or less a year out of the game.
Well this is an extremely hypothetical and almost unanswerable question. As both teams are playing without consistency I can say, right now, that Gerrard would walk into both sides yes. And that was half of the argument. Gerrard has lit Liverpool up since returning. He's a presence as much off the field as he is on it, as has been shown in just a few short weeks.
And as for Lampard, I agree that players have to earn their place in the team, I'm not arguing that Lampard should automatically walk into this current Chelsea squad. I'm saying there's a degree of understanding needed from both parties. Chelsea might not need Lampard to play 90 minutes each week, but they need his experience and leadership abilities to help bed in the younger players and push the team on mentally. Similarly Lampard needs to understand that he isn't the heart that keeps Chelsea beating anymore, but that doesn't mean he can't provide an invaluable service.
Finally I want to make clear that I don't think Gerrard is immune to the sort of form Lampard is currently exhibiting. A time will come when Gerrard isn't needed to play every minute of every game, however when it does I foresee the transition being far more harmonious than the one currently happening at Chelsea.
Thanks for the feedback though, honestly, it's much appreciated.
Vivalaraza
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Owen Coyle is brining his football club to Manchester tomorrow, not his team, oh no, he's bringing his football club.
Jeff Albertson
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Some rovers fans are currently doing a 24 hour protest at ewood, I personally don't see the point as its effectively just a group of people standing around there's nobody to protest to
He's good, good passer, very rarely gives the ball away, as you'd expect from a Barcelona youth. Also has a decent shot on him. It's a shame he didn't make it at Celtic because I think he loved the club and was very loyal. Maybe he just didn't have the physique for the Scottish game.
Ibra "When I see Thiago Silva play, I see myself - but as a defender”
“I think that at the moment Thiago is the most complete defender in the world. I'm lucky to play with a player like him. I've played with some great defenders like Thuram, Cannavaro, Pique and Puyol, but, if you ask me, Thiago Silva plays on another level.”
:lol Sorry to hear about that, Splatt!
Last season was pure comedy to me. Just laugh at your club's stupidity, it's much easier
“I think that at the moment Thiago is the most complete defender in the world. I'm lucky to play with a player like him. I've played with some great defenders like Thuram, Cannavaro, Pique and Puyol, but, if you ask me, Thiago Silva plays on another level.”
:lol Sorry to hear about that, Splatt!
Last season was pure comedy to me. Just laugh at your club's stupidity, it's much easier
I can't rule out the possibility that I've lost my mind
Luis and DeMarcus Beasly were teething today about government officials seizing the Puebla stadium. There were pictures of the police confiscating televisions and the like. What's going on?
:lol Sorry to hear about that, Splatt!
Last season was pure comedy to me. Just laugh at your club's stupidity, it's much easier
I can't rule out the possibility that I've lost my mind
I've created 50 variations of the "James Franco crying while eating a hamburger" gif. Helps to be prepared
Pure gold.
SAT is the tax arm of the government. On going legal battle between the club and Puebla state.
amitaiwinehouse
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Thanks very much for that, it'll be interesting to see how he does in England, could add a bit of pace, which we've been lacking.
Vivalaraza
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Looks like Cahill to Chelsea is very close to completion. Means he probably won't play for Owen Coyle when he brings his football club to Old Trafford tmrw, but not soon enough to feature for Chelsea.
80k a week is the wage they're rumoured to have settled for.
80k a week is the wage they're rumoured to have settled for.
Gareth Bale
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£225,000!?! Surely not.Harry said:
Does anyone else think that Cahill is overhyped? He's a good defender but I don't think he deserves all the attention thats been given to him.
I have to wonder how much of this deal is to prepare for Terry and Lampard retiring in a few years, as a way of keeping the quota of English players at the acceptable level.
Would AVB have looked twice at Cahill when he was as Porto?
Gareth Bale
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Did he even get to choose signings at Porto?
Definitely overrated and overhyped. But pretty much all British players are.
Joel Was Right
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The highlight of being an Arsenal fan these past 6 years has been Henry returning for 6 weeks
I remember Fowlers first game back after Benitez signed him. Dying minutes, 1-1, Overhead kick from God at the Kop end. It was perfect.
Offside 
http://youtu.be/i0yV-_VWCtE
The English requirement is a good point. Cahill is a good defender, he's quick at doesn't lose the head when under pressure but I don't see him as being significantly better than Alex who is deemed surplus to requirements at Chelsea.
I think he'll be a good at Chelsea but I doubt he's the defender that can provide Chelsea with the solidity thats required to win the League. He's also going to struggle if Luiz has another one of his moments. But then again so did Terry.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I'm sorry but I can't see how they can look at that line-up or our opposition and think that we'll be playing 4-3-3. Cretins.
Not my highlight. The glory of watching how we played with Cesc Fabregas will always be remembered. Disappointing that we didn't win anything in those years but the beauty of our football was a joy to watch regardless.
Think smalling will play after his return last week. De gea back in net and I'm thinking anderson will start.
sazabirules
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Meixo-USA at Azteca in August. Do our federations still have an agreement for a friendly every year?
José Mourinho
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I just had a read through your article. Firstly, fair due as you're a decent writer and all the rest of it.
I'm not sure if this was supposed to be an objective piece that compared the two or if it was openly written from a Liverpool fans perspective. Obviously I do, but if I didn't know you were a pool fan and I read this, I don't think I would have too much trouble guessing as much. As somebody who does know you're a pool fan, I can't help but think, of course your piece came to the conclusion it did.
To compare the two. It's no secret both are incredible players, obviously as you stated earlier Lampard has two years on Gerrard and it's clear for all to see, the Lampard of two years ago is not the Lampard of today.
I don't follow any other team particularly closely other than Chelsea, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but is Gerrard not only back? If so, do you not think it's possibly a bit premature to assume it's like he never left?
As for Lampard being used sparingly, I don't think he should be an automatic starter, nor should any player in any team. You said you don't think the transition has been particularly harmonious. I don't think that has anything to do with Lampard or the club, it's the manager. In AVB we clearly have a man who makes his own decisions, I'm sure he respects Frank but I don't think he's particularly bothered about offending him by leaving him on the bench. If Lampard wants to take the huff with the gaffer than that's his issue. If Gerard was in the same situation now, perhaps everything would be smooth because of the relationship between him and Queen Kenny, but who knows what's to happen? Maybe when Gerard hits his decline, he might feel he's still the player he was and will be in the frame of mind Frank finds himself in now? Liverpool could have another manager who perhaps doesn't care much for reputations.
It's a funny one, because whilst the two are somewhat comparable, it's almost unfair to actually compare them. The respective situations the two players find themselves in are not nearly the same.
Lastly. Just a question, but you touched in your piece on the fact that Gerrard came close to signing for Chelsea. For all the talk about how he grew up as a fan, and played for the club and loves the club etc. Does his near departure not take the shine off that for you? I mean, LFC have talked about his future ambassadorial role within the club, telling all the kids how great it is to play there. But what happens when some kid comes along and says; "Well then why did you want out?"
Perhaps you have done this, but I would be very interested to see the two players career stats side by side. Two unbelievable players for sure. I'd like to see what both have done on paper.
José Mourinho
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Thank you Sir.
Shaqiri considers Galatasaray move
Shaqiri, 20, has impressed for FC Basel as he led them to the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time and the midfielder has been linked with a move - with Galatasaray leading the way with a €10 million bid.
"I never would have imagined that I would go to the Turkish league, but Galatasaray are now a top club," he told Basler Zeitung. "The chances are good that the club will win the title and play in the Champions League next season. You have to consider an offer like this. Galatasaray are ambitious and have invested in new players."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...an-shaqiri-considers-galatasaray-move?cc=5901
if gs can land him, what a buy! probably can sell him for 3x times the money in a couple of years if he reaches his potential
Shaqiri, 20, has impressed for FC Basel as he led them to the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time and the midfielder has been linked with a move - with Galatasaray leading the way with a €10 million bid.
"I never would have imagined that I would go to the Turkish league, but Galatasaray are now a top club," he told Basler Zeitung. "The chances are good that the club will win the title and play in the Champions League next season. You have to consider an offer like this. Galatasaray are ambitious and have invested in new players."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...an-shaqiri-considers-galatasaray-move?cc=5901
if gs can land him, what a buy! probably can sell him for 3x times the money in a couple of years if he reaches his potential
why not? he will not get a guaranteed starting spot if he goes to a big club like real madrid
i think it would benefit him to play 1-2 years in a smaller league and then move to a big league like epl, serie a or la liga
How did Galatasaray become a big team again all of a sudden?
Fatih Terim effect...
If he moves to GS than he is pretty much open to any team in the top 4 leagues.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7426721/Gala-launch-Shaqiri-bid
Fatih Terim effect.
Fatih Terim effect...
He should move to a decent league like bundesliga, serie A, la liga, etc
Basel is better than any turk team right now, in my opinion. I hope Shaqiri moves to a better side, in a better league... then we can get him
If he moves to GS than he is pretty much open to any team in the top 4 leagues.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7426721/Gala-launch-Shaqiri-bid
Fatih Terim effect.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Wait, none of those teams are Real. What would be the point?
Hasphat'sAnts
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You just borked my sarcasm detectors.
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