I know this thread is about "controversial opinions" and such, but how is such blalant attack on people allowed?
Could a mod please answer me this?
Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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I know this thread is about "controversial opinions" and such, but how is such blalant attack on people allowed?
Could a mod please answer me this?
blazinglazers
Member
Yes! K&L2's dirty-digital look is incredible. The nude assault on a fast food restaurant... there are no words.
YES! I'd pay hard monies just for more split-screen terrorist hunt maps.
A True Gamer With Great Taste™.
Wild.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Horror is an aesthetic and cannot be applied to a game's genre. Games are not movies. De-emphasized combat? Resident Evil was about mastery over both controls and combat. It was about making you think of the environment and combat in a different way due to the controls (which came about because it was designed around a DPAD). The older RE games were actually fairly mechanically solid (unlike a lot of RE clones after it like Silent Hill) and was designed to be mastered like most Capcom games. It took Alone in the Dark, unjankified it, and made it a (much) better game by actually putting an emphasis and thought on the combat.
Trying to actually explain what survival horror is without using aesthetics basically boils down to "inventory/resource management". Which is something that is not tied to the genre in anyway whatsoever. The sub-genre is too specific. It is like saying Deus Ex's genre is a Cyberpunk (which is an aesthetic, not a gameplay term) FPS because you augment yourself and hack terminals.
What I love about these "ALL POKEMON FANS ARE AUTISTIC HYUCK HYUCK" statements is that they're uttered by the same guys who still find games like Mario enjoyable. And those who aren't encapsulated by such experiences can only be in the "mature games for mature gamers such as myself" crowd.
So either way you look at it, it's either laughably hypocritical or one the most ignorant and absurd opinions in this entire thread - controversial or not.
So either way you look at it, it's either laughably hypocritical or one the most ignorant and absurd opinions in this entire thread - controversial or not.
LightofRohan
Member
Final Fantasy IX is the best FF game! 
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Thanks! At the risk of making you hate me, though, I have some more random ones:
- Super Mario RPG was a waste of the Mario license, and a middling RPG at best
- Super Mario Sunshine is awesome, better than Galaxy YEAH I SAID IT
- Super Mario Bros. 2 is janky and lame
- Wind Waker is the best Zelda game, followed by Link's Awakening
- Skyward Sword is the worst 3D Zelda, no question
- Portal 2 is an abomination, and a mockery of everything that made the first one awesome
- Sonic & Knuckles was the best of the first 4 Sonics
- Smash Bros. Brawl gets a bad rap, there's nothing really that bad about it
Mr. Saturn
Member
sdkjvsvkjdvksjv I've found my long-lost twin. FUCK.
Something else controversial - I've owned Shadow of the Colossus for years, but I've strangely never even opened the box.
I agree wholeheartedly.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Oh, hey! That reminds me of one I forgot.
- I love ICO but Shadow of the Colossus is a BORDERLINE UNPLAYABLE MESS
Seriously, I played and liked it when it came out back in the day, but I tried to fire it up recently (after playing through ICO again) and couldn't even bring myself to finish the third Colossus. Playing that game is WORK, plain and simple. The camera and controls are BUSTED. Great art doesn't excuse bad gameplay.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
- Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger
- Final Fantasy VI is the worst of the first 6 games
- Bioshock is pretentious nonsense
- Final Fantasy XII is easily the best game of the series
and
- Deadly Premonition is the best game of this console generation
The bolds are right on brother son of the bitch give me 5 up in the mother trucking whore house bitch!
Your un-bolded statements make me want to throw hot grease on you. FF6 the worst out of the first 6?! I would give 1 or 2 that honor but 6, come one now breh!
Interfectum
Member
Throw me in the camp of FF12 easily being the best FF made. If that makes you mad, come at me.
perfectnight
Banned
^ I could believe that.
Lmao he called me an autist because I've been buying the same shit for the past 16 years and find nothing wrong with it what a jerk.
Forum rights for pokemon fans.
e-vvv Stop taking it so seriously? I guarantee you it will do you wonders and you might laugh every now and then.
Lmao he called me an autist because I've been buying the same shit for the past 16 years and find nothing wrong with it what a jerk.
Forum rights for pokemon fans.
e-vvv Stop taking it so seriously? I guarantee you it will do you wonders and you might laugh every now and then.
No, it's just being called civil and respectful.
Holy shit.
I love this thread. It really tells me whose opinion to be taken not seriously.
Nocturnowl
Member
Not sure that gives good grounding for posts like calling fans of pokemon pedophiles, at what point is the line crossed in this thread then when it comes to flinging insults?
Having a controversial opinion about a game is pretty far removed from stuff like that.
Lizard with a ladder
learnin' with the blacks!
The best out of all the PS titles sure. FFVI is still the best over all.
How did I missed this? Holy shit. lol
Final Fantasy IX is the best FF game!
There is nothing controversial about this statement. Final Fantasy 9 is generally accepted as being the best main series entry.
Exterminieren
Banned
Bullshit. In this thread I have been called a paedophile and an autist (this is ignoring the fact that using that as an insult is some really pathetic shit) simply for liking a popular video game series.
If you feel that liking a Nintendo game is grounds to call someone a paedophile, then the best of luck to you.
So are IV VI X and XII!
I don't think this one is too controversial. I personally feel that Sonic 3 & Knuckles (even though you said S&K standalone) is the best of ALL Sonics.
Deified Data
Banned
Same. Fallout 1&2 were great games, but they don't hold a candle to Fallout 3 as far as fun-factor goes.
And Fallout 3 doesn't hold a candle to New Vegas, so Obsidian for the win, I guess.
I replay S3&K nearly every year
Tried Sonic CD for the first time this month when it came on XBLA and didn't really like it.
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Yeah, that's true for us, but I feel like Sonic 2 is pretty much considered the best/most classic/best liked. I could be wrong, that's just the sense I've always gotten.
I bet if 3 and Knuckles had been one epic game like they had intended, things might be different, but it kind of has some stigma attached to it because of the lock-on thing.
Yes, but the library is AWESOME.
No, you're just trying to confuse matters.
I thought it had positive stigma because of the lock-on though? It enabled cool extras like Hyper Sonic, Super Tails and Hyper Knuckles (argubly could of have still existed, but it seems like the Super Emeralds only existed because Sega had to make S&K special stages). Not to mention Knuckles in Sonic 2 and No Way! game.
Deified Data
Banned
Most played, perhaps, but anyone who ever played S&K easily list it as the superior title. Probably. >_>
DJSharpeCheddar
Banned
Ok, maybe I'm just dead wrong! Good to see all the S&K love.
Big ups, bros.
Big ups, bros.
TheFightingFish
Member
Alright, I actually have one that I legitimately think that I'm pretty on my own with.
I'd say that I really hate quick save / quick load and what it has done to good game design. Don't get me wrong, I want to be able to stop and leave off at any time (with a destructible quick save) but the ability to just continually save and replay at a specific point at a combat encounter is game breaking. Now folks just say "Well then don't use it. Rely on checkpoints." but even if you do that some of these games just seem designed around the player using it (STALKER comes to mind for me). I just feel like much better games are made when either designing a game in which you are expected to die and are not allow to just save and restore like your own little Sands of Time (Dark Souls) or in which death is handled in a way that rewards you and allows you to keep playing the game or learn more interesting things (Planescape Torment).
I'd say that I really hate quick save / quick load and what it has done to good game design. Don't get me wrong, I want to be able to stop and leave off at any time (with a destructible quick save) but the ability to just continually save and replay at a specific point at a combat encounter is game breaking. Now folks just say "Well then don't use it. Rely on checkpoints." but even if you do that some of these games just seem designed around the player using it (STALKER comes to mind for me). I just feel like much better games are made when either designing a game in which you are expected to die and are not allow to just save and restore like your own little Sands of Time (Dark Souls) or in which death is handled in a way that rewards you and allows you to keep playing the game or learn more interesting things (Planescape Torment).
It was just that good, man.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
THQ has been churning out shit games since the NES days.
Everything Obsidian makes is crap.
Rescue Rangers is THE best Capcom/Disney game
Everything Obsidian makes is crap.
Rescue Rangers is THE best Capcom/Disney game
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Every Zelda has quite a few differences, and each one is enjoyable on their own. The "tired" Zelda formula that most people whine about it is in only 5 games so far.
The only 2 really similar are Twilight Princess and OoT.
The only 2 really similar are Twilight Princess and OoT.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Spyro the Dragon >>>> Mario
Another example of why Demons Souls is the best game this generation.
Another example of why Demons Souls is the best game this generation.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Here's another.
The World Ends with You is crap. Awful art direction, repetitious music, boring dialog, cliche characters.
The World Ends with You is crap. Awful art direction, repetitious music, boring dialog, cliche characters.
GAF is literally the only place on the internet I've ever seen people say XII is the best.
AcceptableGhost
Member
People who like (insert game) are pedophiles, members of the ku klux klan, and possibly satan himself.
edit: also my penis is bigger than yours, etc
edit: also my penis is bigger than yours, etc
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Ok, maybe I'm just dead wrong! Good to see all the S&K love.
Big ups, bros.
Well if you want some Sonic-related controversy, I'll try.
- I liked Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis version, never had a Saturn)
- The Knuckles portions of Adventure 1 and 2 were okay to me
- I feel that Unleashed would have been better received if it had been Knuckles instead of the Werehog and they just called it Sonic and Knuckles '08 or something. I never played it though so this is just speculation.
Non-Sonic related (maybe) controversy
- I think Mario 64 starts to fall apart after Lethal Lava Land.
- On that note, Banjo-Kazooie is miles better.
- I think Jak 2 is on equal standing with Jak 1, Jak 3 being the worst (of 3 outstanding games).
- I feel like if Sony hadn't failed so hard and ended up trying to compete for Microsoft's market, we would've had a Jak 4 by now, maybe even a 5 and 6, along with Uncharted.
- I feel that having to turn to the digital market to find certain types of games is a dissservice. If I want a 3D platformer this gen not named Mario or Ratchet, I shouldn't have to settle for smaller digital games or PSN classics.
- I think the Uncharted games are good, but I think that people look too much at the production values and overrate them as a result.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Some more:
Shining Force III is my favorite SRPG, ranking over the Fire Emblem games. I love the special attacks, weapon levels, great pacing/challenge, and fantastic audiovisual quality that this game(s?) brought to the Sega Saturn. Very repayable, too, and with Motoi Sakuraba's most boring soundtrack yet!
3rd Gen Pokemon all the waygrew up on said stuff, and Hoenn's the region of champions.
D2 was good. It outdid the usual Kojima project in every single way, and is possibly the most intentionally-insane game ever created. And the music is good too.
Artdink made great games. I actually don't know how well-known the company is with GAF, but there's never a better time to find out.
Shining Force III is my favorite SRPG, ranking over the Fire Emblem games. I love the special attacks, weapon levels, great pacing/challenge, and fantastic audiovisual quality that this game(s?) brought to the Sega Saturn. Very repayable, too, and with Motoi Sakuraba's most boring soundtrack yet!
3rd Gen Pokemon all the waygrew up on said stuff, and Hoenn's the region of champions.
D2 was good. It outdid the usual Kojima project in every single way, and is possibly the most intentionally-insane game ever created. And the music is good too.
Artdink made great games. I actually don't know how well-known the company is with GAF, but there's never a better time to find out.
weekend_warrior
Banned
I always preferred to play as Tails in Sonic games. I mean come on, he could fly, that shit was awesome.
On top of that Halo is the most overrated POS.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I'm starting to entertain the notion that XII might actually be the only good FF game.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Truer words have never been spoken.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It's supposed to be controversial. Not 100% irrefutable fact.