Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Not with that gigantic grammatical error ("anymore" is an adverb).
sorijealut
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Or establish the "Nintendo Ambassador Program." We get early access to demos, awesome rewards, and daily messages from Miyamoto/Iwata to motivate us.
sorijealut
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I'm on my phone right now, but I would have posted that pic of Iwata sitting down with that girl via AR. If that's what you mean, that could be motivational..maybe.
Phoenician_Viking
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I was just talking about this a couple of posts above, but yeah I agree.
I was actually joining your Ambassadors' discussion, only following it with classic games, which you didn't mention. Should have made myself clearer, good sir.
Should it happen, it wouldn't be a general, marketable selling point by any means (albeit I know some fellas bought the 3DS once they caught notice of the free classics), but it would create much good will with the fanbase.
I don't think they'll give classic games for free, rather they'll make us use coins for them.
I would love to have discounted prices for ambassadors though, if we can't have them for free.
StreetsAhead
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Because it's essentially just a sales/profit report and some Q&As.
However, previous meetings have given us tidbits (DLC coming, investing in third parties, final form of Wii U at e3 and so on) and there's often other news announced around that time too (Kirby: R2DL comes to mind).
sorijealut
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Mhm, the Ambassador Program and Club Nintendo Eshop integrations are, I think, some of the most brilliant choices Nintendo's made in recent years. So I'm for more of this type fanservice.
I can see the occasional downloadable freebie; mostly apps, such as the 3DS' Pokédex and Swapnote. However, Excitebike 3D and Four Swords were free (timed) releases, so who knows? They may throw short games from time to time.
I don't expect much from Thursday's meeting. I'm more confident on March's GDC bringing substantial news before E3, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
I don't expect much from Thursday's meeting. I'm more confident on March's GDC bringing substantial news before E3, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Grampa Simpson
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Looks like a savage wallet-raping to me.
nckillthegrimace
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Seems really optimistic to me.
Fourth Storm
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Yup, I get a good chuckle reading the Q&As. The investors' questions can be quite blunt. Even if (when) no specifics are announced, there are usually a few interesting tidbits that shed light on Iwata's vision for Nintendo.
Grampa Simpson
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It reads like an optimisted $500 out of my wallet at least. Plus the cost of the console. I'm totally going to need to pull a CheapAssGamer this year to make it through.
dragon quest at launch? hmmm ...
radioheadrule83
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I'm fully expecting these titles to have been cancelled or for them to skip on to the next iteration in the franchise:
Assassin's Creed
Batman: AC
Battlefield
Dirt
F1
Ninja Gaiden 3
Ghost Recon
If the likes of Arkham City etc do come out, they need to have extra content or Wii-U exclusive gameplay to justify purchases. Minimal efforts will result in crappy sales.
Hopefully publishers have kept track of Nintendo's advised launch and managed their projects accordingly. I think we will probably see big games from big franchises in Holiday 2012, certainly the likes of RE6 and a Call of Duty style game. I have absolutely no idea what Nintendo has in mind as a flagship launch title, and that's just pretty damn exciting, frankly.
Assassin's Creed
Batman: AC
Battlefield
Dirt
F1
Ninja Gaiden 3
Ghost Recon
If the likes of Arkham City etc do come out, they need to have extra content or Wii-U exclusive gameplay to justify purchases. Minimal efforts will result in crappy sales.
Hopefully publishers have kept track of Nintendo's advised launch and managed their projects accordingly. I think we will probably see big games from big franchises in Holiday 2012, certainly the likes of RE6 and a Call of Duty style game. I have absolutely no idea what Nintendo has in mind as a flagship launch title, and that's just pretty damn exciting, frankly.
Grampa Simpson
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Exactly.....
Savagely raped by at least 3 or 4 participants in a back alley. Bleeding and left for dead.
I'm sure we will get those games with all the extra content that is not included in the disk currently and maybe JUST MAYBE...exclusive content for Wii U.
Like you said, they really need to justify purchases. It's the first time Nintendo gets games like these on their console and games like Batman will be old when the console arrives, so I'm expecting low sales anyway, at least, till the console gets a solid userbase
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
The Nintendo Network Logo was spotted on the Theatrhytm box. Theatrhytm is releasing (in Japan) on Feb. 16th. I would imagine that they will have an unveiling or at least a press release for whatever Nintendo Network is. I imagine that the best time in the next two weeks to unveil it would be at the investor conference.
My guess is that Nintendo is going to announce an unified Network system for all their consoles. With their recent efforts on the 3DS, the Club Nintendo integration, their Nintendo Network E3 coverage, and rumors of the E-Reader Nintendo Powers to go along with VC content; I imagine Nintendo Network will be your access to everything Nintendo.
With GDC coming up I think it would be great to get the general idea out there and then go into greater detail there. But it's just a guess...
ClovingWestbrook
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Man, just picked up SUper Mario 3D Land and realized I've picked up 5 games for the system. That may not seem like alot to you but for having the system less than a year its alot for me. Usually I only buy PC games. The 3DS is really pocking up steam and gives me great hope for the Wii U.
Now, between this concept and the USB 3.0 bickering I was hearing, capped off with the current condition of the standard platter HDD market, it got me thinking...
Yes, Nintendo could definitely do an external HDD for WiiU, and the way they'd sell it is to make it (wait for it....) an SSD. Reliability in hardware is important to Nintendo, and I'm sure they'd rather you stow your DLC and purchases on something that doesn't have an industry average of 1-7% failure rates. If you lose your purchases using your own type of drive, Nintendo support would probably just shrug their shoulders and go "should have bought our SSD!"
Heck, for all we know, they could do a low-capacity (meaning sub-128GB) solid-state storage right in the machine itself. If they can fit it in a MacBook Air, they can surely cram it into a box like the WiiU. That would resolve those fears of data not being as fast as the proprietary BD disc for data access to DLC.
I thought Assassin's Creed was already going to be diff than any game that has come out so far.
Batman, I agree with.
Battlefield.
When is Ninja Gaiden 3 out? And when has it stopped them? They are porting a port to the Vita for launch. So can see em doing the same with the Wii U.
And isn't Ghost Recon already a unique version?
ShockingAlberto
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My gut says Assassin's Creed will be canceled, a port, or a patched-together-reused-assets title.
They can't even get their mainline games up to quality these days. I doubt a Wii U exclusive, if it still exists, will be something they spend any time on.
They can't even get their mainline games up to quality these days. I doubt a Wii U exclusive, if it still exists, will be something they spend any time on.
Ummmm... Ninja Gaiden 3 is already 30% complete, no way they're canceling it. ESPECIALLY after the cheers it got being included in the E3 reel. Same with Arkham City.
One thing we need to consider, as well... by making WiiU ports with the already-released DLC included, it could theoretically revive interest in making even MORE new DLC for these games on ALL platforms. Every customer for whatever version of the game wins out that way. It's a decent reason for every gamer, even those not interested in WiiU, to HOPE for ports. Who doesn't want an awesome game to be even more awesome?
Of course, this makes the assumption that publishers and developers actually use DLC for its intended purpose of extending revenue on an already-created title/IP thanks to lower overhead cost, and also extending interest in a game among gamers themselves. Which, as history shows us, doesn't really work out.
Are you doubting Ubisoft's ability to put together quality launch games for Nintendo systems? Crazy talk!
Obviously, they are referring to Nintendo being able to get cross-game video chat functional unlike MS.
Of those games, I think Batman is the least likely to be cancelled despite its age and could actually end up selling the best. It's a strong license and licensed games have traditionally sold very well over time on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo and WB have a deal with Lego City Stories, so I expect WB to fully support the system and Batman is the best thing they've got going.
Even though footage of Battlefield3 was shown at the conference, EA has only ever committed to "Battlefield" being on the system. This is the only game that I can see being passed over for the next iteration, but even that depends on what their plans for the franchise are in the future. If there's a new 2012 entry, BF3 won't happen... If there isn't, and especially if the system launches before November, EA would be foolish to give up any ground to Activision. While DICE has denied making BF3 WiiU at the time back in October, a port, even an enhanced port, wouldn't be exactly exhaustive on their resources.
Ninja Gaiden 3 is out in mid/late March. When the WiiU version was announced it was given its own sub-titled (Razor's Edge) and they've been fairly clear that it is planned as a launch title despite NG3 being released in a different fiscal year. It sounds like they knew from the beginning that it would be a late port, so their making it unique to the system... I don't see them cancelling it now.
Ubisoft has teased enough to glean that their Assassin's Creed WiiU game is Assassin's Creed 3 (or whatever they call it) and that it will be multiplatform. There were some selective quotes being posted trying to make it sound like the game was a port of Revelations or their older games. They've flat out denied that, calling the WiiU game a "future game." They've yet to fully announce what their next AC game will be though.
Ghost Recon Online is not Future Soldier. I see no reason why it would be cancelled, unless the PC version is killed too. Future Soldier is a May release, so, although it hasn't been announced for WiiU, I wouldn't be shocked if it was ported ... this is Ubisoft... we can safely expect Micheal Jackson The Experience from them too...
ultrazilla
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I do think they should drop the Wii name though and give the new
system it's own identity. I can see it causing confusion with mom
and dads/consumers thinking it's "just another Wii".
I think Nintendo will have to work harder to show this is
a much more powerful system than the Wii when a simple
name change would do most of that work.
I'd go simple and simply name it............Nintendo.
Dreamwriter
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It needs to keep the Wii name so as to keep the new gamers the Wii attracted. Unlike the 3DS, the Wii-U has a very major obvious difference from its previous generation: the new controller. Whereas Nintendo's crappy marketing made people think the 3DS was just a DS with 3D added, the Wii-U is at worst going to look like a Wii with a whole new control scheme, and one that isn't sold separately so people won't be confused and think they can buy just the controller.
Calisto Glory
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And why do these people not think that Wii U is just a Wii with a U connected?
The_Endgamer
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Dreamwriter
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But that's the selling point - the new controller. It cannot be purchased any other way, so if casual gamers want to play Wii-U Feelsports (or whatever), they'll need the new console.
And no, the "very different HD graphics" won't make a darn difference, the 3DS had very different graphics, very obviously far better than the DS and PSP, but Nintendo didn't make a big deal of that in their marketing. And the type of gamers to get confused wouldn't care much about better graphics anyways.
Well, I was thinking just about third party support, in my previous post.
About the "old gen/new gen" topic, let's say that it's normal for a new system to have also "old gen multiplatform titles". It happened with Xbox360 with PS2 titles, or with Dreamcast with PSX titles, for examples.
In my opinion the WIi U should communicate the fact to guarantee what, in this generation, is the "normal" support from third parties (PS360 usual multiplatform development), because the Wii was the "strange" part of the market.
Of course, Wii U should also show tablet-controlled games and graphic games that cannot be handled by PS360, but in my opinion they should also guarantee all the normal multiplatform titles of PS360 to assure the market that Nintendo can offer ALSO that part of the support (very important up to now for the market)
Also because it could be almost impossible in the actual market situation to have a lot of third party exclusives titles.
Hmm... I don't think the Wii U should support a second tablet then. If buying the new console was the only way to get the controller, they wouldn't assume the "Wii U" was just a controller.
Dreamwriter
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Nintendo already said that if a third-party developer decided to make a game using two Wii-U controllers, one Wii-U owner would have to take their controller to another Wii-U owner's house.
ultrazilla
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Gonna be alot of confused people when they think they'll
be able to plug in the new touch controller to their Wii.
Especially with the heavy marketing Nintendo is sure to do
with it.
A simple name change to give the system it's own identity
will do wonders for it.
So you're thinking they'll buy the Wii U, ditch the console, and try to use the controller on the original Wii?
damn, didnt even think of that.
Gamer @ Heart
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I feel like people overstate how dumb consumers might be. Yes there might be confusion now, but the dam thing isn't out! The education marketing process hasn't even begun. It all hinges on a game/software/experience and some way or another, whether they walk into the store looking for it, research online, or get a recommendation from a friend, they learn the Wii U is a different beast.
I still think the new system will look similar to something like
Quad core @ 3,4 Ghz/core
something like the RV790 XT with reduced 700 - 800Mhz
(Maybe they could also use a gpu from evergreenseries like Juniper XT or Cypress XT both gpus came out in late 2009 if I'm not mistaken and they are 40nm production...)
minimum 2GB RAM (mix of eDRAM and GDDR5)
The console will have the usual pack-in like controller, cables and game.
It will definately sell at 399, Euro still for a loss...
Quad core @ 3,4 Ghz/core
something like the RV790 XT with reduced 700 - 800Mhz
(Maybe they could also use a gpu from evergreenseries like Juniper XT or Cypress XT both gpus came out in late 2009 if I'm not mistaken and they are 40nm production...)
minimum 2GB RAM (mix of eDRAM and GDDR5)
The console will have the usual pack-in like controller, cables and game.
It will definately sell at 399, Euro still for a loss...
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Not a day goes buy where I don't have to explain to at least one person (usually more) that the 3DS is the true success to the Nintendo DS, not a revision, and that the normal DS wont play 3DS games "in 2D".
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