Halo 4 Announced (MS Conf, 2012, Start Of New Trilogy)
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bobs...onGaf
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Im pretty sure Halo 3 traded the top spot with MW2 and even took the top spot back for a pretty long period? Pretty impressive given how late into Halo 3's life MW2 came out. I blame Halo's popularity issues with the fact that I feel Reach dropped the ball on the series. I also think ODST and Halo Wars hurt the Halo franchise with the average mass market gamer which is a shame because I loved those 2 games. I can understand why uninformed people who get those games and leave a bit annoyed, but I think Halo Wars was fantastic, same with ODST.
And turned into a first-person shooter wonder.
I played Halo Wars, and was fond of it, but I started looking differently at Halo following its release.
Irrefutable evidence here guys, don't even try.
I mean, look at all that... evidence... being presented.
The game smashed into 25 million unique players online, less than six months following its release. It carried on to turn into the best-selling Xbox 360 game of all time, best-selling game of all time in the UK and in the U.S., and was the chart-topping game on XBL in 2010.
Black Ops subsequently took the franchise to a wholly distinct level.
AdventureRacing
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What does that have to do with halo? Just because COD became much more popular doesn't mean it's the reason for halos drop off in sales.
The explosion of COD didn't really make halo 3s playing numbers drop at all and the game continued to have really strong legs. I think the decrease in popularity was because the game between main games was too big and when it finally came out there was no chief.
For many people (including myself) reach still felt like sort of a spin off because it didn't have the chief. Bungie/Ms should have realised how important he was to the franchise.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
The X0 events haven't been what you're thinking since X06. Ever since then, they've just been Xbox parties around GDC time to let the press play some upcoming games.
Last year's X event was the best, for obvious reasons.
ActiveRush
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Man the weekly update was so disappointing. I really wish that 343 would have made it crystal clear before the toy fair that there would be no Halo 4 news. It felt like they waited till the last day then said don't expect anything.
Halo 3 had 1 million daily [unique] gamers before the release of MW2. Such numbers were never heard of again.
In what way is Master Chief associated with the diminishing of Halo's popularity online?
Halo Wars was amazingly good. There.
ncsuDuncan
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Halo Wars was a terrible FPS.
Pretty solid RTS though, unless you were crazy and expected a Starcraft level of polish.
Exactly.
Warm Machine
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Halo Wars is awesome. Probably my favorite RTS and that includes Starcraft 1 and 2.
Future PhaZe
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Halo Reach wasn't where the series started to lose popularity: The period between Halo 3/Halo Wars/ODST is when they lost the title.
Truth be told Halo was never the most accessible shooter in the world but Halo 3 made things a lot worse with less magnetism, bad map design (Construct...lol), and taking forever to get in matches only to have like half of them quit.
I'm really good at Halo and 3 was just really hard to get into. Unbearably difficult for new players and even a lot of the old Pros disliked it quite a bit. When MW2 came out a lot of people ran for the hills.
Between the Halo anime, ODST , Halo Wars and the Halo XBL App the milking really soured a lot of people.
Reach did a lot to help matters but it was just...all over the place and they still didn't fix the accessibility issue.
Truth be told Halo was never the most accessible shooter in the world but Halo 3 made things a lot worse with less magnetism, bad map design (Construct...lol), and taking forever to get in matches only to have like half of them quit.
I'm really good at Halo and 3 was just really hard to get into. Unbearably difficult for new players and even a lot of the old Pros disliked it quite a bit. When MW2 came out a lot of people ran for the hills.
Between the Halo anime, ODST , Halo Wars and the Halo XBL App the milking really soured a lot of people.
Reach did a lot to help matters but it was just...all over the place and they still didn't fix the accessibility issue.
Future PhaZe
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I'm surprised people rank Halo 3's campaign over Reach. Brutes are just awful enemies in general and virtually every weapon in that game was worst than it's counter-part from another game. Really terrible pellet gun sounding AR, BR added spread, terrible pistol even compared to the halo 2 magnum...it was just not a high point in the series in any way--multiplayer or campaign.
In before Dax Halo 3 fetish post.
The Xtortionist
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That was very evident in the MP for me. Almost every weapon that wasn't a power weapon felt janky and worthless.
I think he's drunk or something. Maybe naked too.
Your neck looks weird and that shirt makes you look fat.
higherARC05
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This was taken near 343i studio in Seatle after that post was made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-fM3HTrfM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-fM3HTrfM
God, you really are Tom Morello.
On an unrelated note, I really hope we get Custom Game Browsing and Dedicated Servers for Halo 4.
I reckon Halo 3 would be much more active now if it had them from the beginning as they allow communities to build as you'll get people becoming server 'regulars', thus forming long term friendships within the game. In general they'd provide a much more user friendly experience for newcomers as well, providing betrayers and trash talkers can be kicked by hosts. I think they'd also be magnificent for the competitive and creative communities, Custom Game Browsing would allow good forge maps to spread like wildfire. For the competitive community, dedicated servers would be much more useful for hosting scrims, as well as handling general clan recruitment.
Overall, there's no other two features that I think could massively benefit the Halo multiplayer experience as much as these, I've expanded much further on this over at Halo Waypoint so if anyone would like to take a look then feel free!
I reckon Halo 3 would be much more active now if it had them from the beginning as they allow communities to build as you'll get people becoming server 'regulars', thus forming long term friendships within the game. In general they'd provide a much more user friendly experience for newcomers as well, providing betrayers and trash talkers can be kicked by hosts. I think they'd also be magnificent for the competitive and creative communities, Custom Game Browsing would allow good forge maps to spread like wildfire. For the competitive community, dedicated servers would be much more useful for hosting scrims, as well as handling general clan recruitment.
Overall, there's no other two features that I think could massively benefit the Halo multiplayer experience as much as these, I've expanded much further on this over at Halo Waypoint so if anyone would like to take a look then feel free!
OverHeat
« generous god »
You love popping your head in this thread and giving use nothing you are the biggest tease ever
higherARC05
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Wait are you serious!? screen shots coming here!? now!?
Zeouterlimits
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Merely due to pricing and mis-management. Title itself was great.
Uh... probably not.
higherARC05
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LOL Just found this vid of Frankie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze2gGlRtatk
And there's a whole lot more!
Frankie you rock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze2gGlRtatk
And there's a whole lot more!
Frankie you rock!
OverHeat
« generous god »
The Internet can be cruel sometime hahahaha
Demoncarnotaur
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:lol
The lack of Halo 4 news seems to have caused everybody, even 343 to go a little crazy.
ODST was great, just unfortunately a lot of people didn't really understand what the game was. Mix that with the price and it caused a lot of frustration. Personally, I knew completely what the game was going to be and loved it.
Should've been sold as Halo ODST, for 30$. Sort of like in a made for home video sort of way.
Could've actually paved way for sequels and such.
Too late, already burnt the the shirt and called a specialist to examine my neck.
That jovial exchange bought you 48 hours, but don't think I won't get pissy again.
higherARC05
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Agreed.
ODST was really a new take of a new experience in the HALO universe. Loved it like no other game.
Could only imagine if it was built with a big budget as a Next XBOX game.
Fudgepuppy
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What's between now and E3? Seems a bit too late to reveal the game at E3, so before that would be logical.
Would be awesome if next friday or so, a massive reveal on all gaming sites out of nowhere.
Would be awesome if next friday or so, a massive reveal on all gaming sites out of nowhere.
OverHeat
« generous god »
The game is launching this year and we still have not seen anything realtime...come on 343i give us a cookie.
You'll have news before E3. Don't fret.
OverHeat
« generous god »
I'm boggling my mind trying to understand what sort of harm ODST and Reach did.
Boggling. VERB. Honest.