Winter 2012 Anime Thread of Roundcats Up in This

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I didn't mean to imply that, but Nise doesn't have very much going on outside of that. I don't think the writing or characters are very strong in Nise outside of what's going on in episode three, and some of the dialogue in the first episode.

Right now the show is directionless, pointlessly juggling "harem" members in and out for screen time without emphasizing a particular need for anything. There are lingering threats in the periphery, but outside of the encounter with the guy in episode three their absence from the show is noticeable. Bake was pretty good about being focused on its particular goal at any one time, and the conversations in that centered around where the show was going, so the dialogue felt more pointed. Nise simply feels like its reveling in its meandering, and even if the dialogue can feel like its strong at times it lacks much context into a greater plot.

There's already a goal though, and it's back to the "curing the girl of the week" format for the time being.

It's almost unsettling how much people are forgetting about the student council president. We're talking about quadrangles man!
I don't remember that character at all...
 
Do you get intensely jealous when your best friend decides to do things without you? lol

It depends actually. When I was much younger I had a very close friend who was in the same class as I was. We lived near each other, and we would go to school and go home together. We didn't do everything together, but there was a sort of daily routine where we would have for 5 days a week, and we would talk about stuff. We got split up into different classes too, and made new friends, and eventually we started drifting a little apart because we would have our own things to do after school, etc.

For a long time it really felt "wrong" to me when we weren't going home together, or when he was busy with other things during lunch break and didn't want to spend time with me. When I did other stuff with new classmates and friends, and had my own activities as a boy scout I would often thing about him in a way which felt kinda like he was gone from my life.

It's obviously not a dramatic sort of jealousy, but there's definitely a weird feeling in your life when you had a deep emotional connection with a friend and that bond sort of starts to drift apart.

There's a reason I relate very, very closely with BRS. Because I totally understand the experience the show is trying to express. It's a powerful feeling, and it's also not really good or bad, just a part of growing up.
 
There's already a goal though, and it's back to the "curing the girl of the week" format for the time being.
The dialogue in episode four is not situated around that at all. You also have to look at the format change. In the past, Araragi would solve the issue primarily through discourse with the person he was curing that made it seem like he was working towards that solution. Nise so far has been about putting things off, even with the introduced necessity of someone suffering from some demonic ailment.
 
The dialogue in episode four is not situated around that at all. You also have to look at the format change. In the past, Araragi would solve the issue primarily through discourse with the person he was curing that made it seem like he was working towards that solution. Nise so far has been about putting things off, even with the introduced necessity of someone suffering from some demonic ailment.
I know someone here has read the novel, so maybe he can espouse on the topic, but I'm assuming that a lot of this is because the novels change up the familiar format. Given that I wasn't really invested in the "curing" arc structure of the original Bakemono because they were fairly perfunctory, I find myself not having a problem with just random episodes where Araragi is catching up with every girl.

That said, pretty much every girl has made their appearance, so I figure the show/novel picks up at this point.
 
Why is it unusual for a 13 or 14 year old student in a single sex school to have no opposite gender friends?
It's not, but depictions of these relationships end up having subtext. Even Rudyard Kipling's books have what we would term "shounen-ai" by virtue of having boys be close in an all boys school.
 
I need somebody to explain this to me. Are single sex schools still common? It sounds like a really terrible bullshit cliche.

They aren't common in America, but I imagine they're more common in Asia.

It's not, but depictions of these relationships end up having subtext. Even Rudyard Kipling's books have what we would term "shounen-ai" by virtue of having boys be close in an all boys school.

What I'm reading here is that you can't have a close friendship without there being a sexual component to it.
 
Whoa, I did not know this was set for Spring too. Sunrise, what art thou doing with a schoolgirls anime!

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It's not our fault you're perverted right?
Hey, the British formalized the sempai/kohai relationship through "fagging". You think a relationship where a boy is essentially a manservant to another boy isn't wrought with subtext?

(Again, I'm speaking of depictions/representations.)
 
Hey, the British formalized the sempai/kohai relationship through "fagging". You think a relationship where a boy is essentially a manservant to another boy isn't wrought with subtext?

(Again, I'm speaking of depictions/representations.)

It's still not our fault you're perverted. :)
 
So pretty much all pubescent same-sex friendships in fiction have subtext if they're being observed/depicted by thirty year olds, right?

I mean, I wasn't kidding when I said there was nothing outside of the bounds of a normal friendship in BRS. Besides the alternate dimension thing, ofc.
Well, it's like MariMite. Outside of the one lesbian character, these girls are all straight. But the subtext is so thick that it becomes text at some point.

Besides, I suppose you could argue that no one was really queer in Oniisama e... either, if you wanted to do so.
 
Nisemonogatari 4: You can't see anything in the bathroom scene. I don't find it particulary disturbing.

Well presumably you will see everything when the DVD/Blurays release. That's really not the issue though. The problem is that it takes up over half the episode. To put that in perspective, there was more naked loli in this one episode than the entirety of RoKyuBu and Astarotte combined.
 
It's not, but depictions of these relationships end up having subtext. Even Rudyard Kipling's books have what we would term "shounen-ai" by virtue of having boys be close in an all boys school.

sometimes, but to apply it everywhere seems like you're wielding you're own brush, my bro.


Well presumably you will see everything when the DVD/Blurays release. That's really not the issue though. The problem is that it takes up over half the episode. To put that in perspective, there was more naked loli in this one episode than the entirety of RoKyuBu and Astarotte combined.

What's more disturbing than anything is that scenes such as that shit are considered to be 'fanservice' by those into it, and the creators providing the fix. The idea being more than the image, not saying the actual scenes weren't awkward enough.
 
Subtext is actually present and not just imagined in Marmite, though. ;)
Eh, the Yumi/Sachiko relationship doesn't seem all that different to me than the many other faux-yuri relationships in animu today.

I guess one question would be to ask - do you consider the Homuhomu/Madoka relationship in PMMM to be simple friendship or subtextual yuri? Although I'm not quite sure what side of the line I would fall on, I'm more likely to place it in the latter category.
 
Well presumably you will see everything when the DVD/Blurays release. That's really not the issue though. The problem is that it takes up over half the episode. To put that in perspective, there was more naked loli in this one episode than the entirety of RoKyuBu and Astarotte combined.

Well duh. Ro-Kyu-Bu is a classy show.
 
Lagrange 04:

Muginami deeeeesu.
Muginami deeeeeeeeeeesu.

Muginami's fluffy warmth and joy and moe and love and cleavage washed over me like a glorious ray of summer sunlight. And she barely even did anything. My heart is probably going to explode when she actually has a more active role in the story.

Fin was no slouch in the hnnnnnngh department, however.
Clumsy
Fin,
depressed
Fin,
jealous
Fin,
socially clueless
Fin, and MULTIPLE WANS. INTO MY VEINS, NOW. MARU? WHAT'S THAT?

Also, I totally called a couple of days ago that
the pilots' magical crests (now officially "memoria") would be conveniently located on various erogenous zones of their bodies.
Apparently, I was right.
Madoka = ass, Fin = chest, Muginami = pelvis.
I'm sure this will be totally justified by some later plot point or revelation.
 
Lagrange 04:

Muginami deeeeesu.
Muginami deeeeeeeeeeesu.

Muginami's fluffy warmth and joy and moe and love and cleavage washed over me like a glorious ray of summer sunlight. And she barely even did anything. My heart is probably going to explode when she actually has a more active role in the story.

Fin was no slouch in the hnnnnnngh department, however.
Clumsy
Fin,
depressed
Fin,
jealous
Fin,
socially clueless
Fin, and MULTIPLE WANS. INTO MY VEINS, NOW. MARU? WHAT'S THAT?

Also, I totally called a couple of days ago that
the pilots' magical crests (now officially "memoria") would be conveniently located on various erogenous zones of their bodies.
Apparently, I was right.
Madoka = ass, Fin = chest, Muginami = pelvis.
I'm sure this will be totally justified by some later plot point or revelation.

Fuck off. I already claimed Muginami as Mai Waifu like 100 pages ago.
 
It was like a WWE movie, except with the Trojan war as a backdrop. Eric Bana was pretty hot in it too.
There were women in that though, weren't there? (Other than Helen, of course).

95% of 300 was about men being half naked around each other. The other 5% was about NTR.
 
I feel bad for you watching these both back to back. At least everyone else had a week to forget how good episode 3 was.

I'm not sure what to call 4. Usually a combination of really good stuff with really bad stuff would be considered average, but I don't think that term works in this case.
 
Nisemonogatari 4: You can't see anything in the bathroom scene. I don't find it particulary disturbing.

If you can't see what's been visually implied through shampoo/soap then you had a better viewing experience than I!

Moreover, if you don't think all those shots, and there were dozens, of fanservice throughout the sequence don't count as fanservice because they were 'censored' then I can see that I share a different definition of disturbing to you.
 
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