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It's what bubbles to the forefront of the media format. It's not unique and compelling works. It's the humdrum episodic shows about a teenager with impossibly sexy teachers and an uncontrollable erection.
I'm not saying good anime does not exist. It is just rare. Studio Ghibli is practically the only presence in anime today being taken seriously outside of the enthusiast crowd. And no, it's not because people are "just not watching the right stuff".
The anime of today serves it's own crowd and no one else. It does that very well I will say.
The wrong movies apparently. I live in a dystopian future where Shia Labeouf is cast in 50 percent of all movies ever made. Also, my life is a nightmare.
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Sorry for the double post. Still getting a hang of the multi-quote feature.
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Honestly I love how anime fanboys are twisting their panties when "other countries mimic the anime style"... but then come to defense when you tell them that "anime style" itself came from borrowing Western artstyle from Disney and such.
Infinite Justice
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After getting to read it sometime later I agree with this.
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What a unique K-On criticism.
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I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. If Ghibli is the only "serious" anime studio you can think of and the only one you're aware of that produces work that is not specifically tailored to the fan demographic, then yeah, you are not watching the right stuff. And I'm saying this as someone who completely agrees that your complaints apply to the majority of contemporary anime.Mahonay said:
Mortrialus
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We aren't that far aware from each other.
Just the perspective of an outside observer who was casually interested at one point in time.
Also I didn't mean to tear into you personally, I just find backing the integrity of anime an impossibly difficult argument to make.
This is one the problems I have with anime that there nearly all following/bound by rules and traditions set by animes of the past.
But I don't even care anymore because everything has turned into fanserivce garbage.
I'm sad when I see how ridiculous my anime watched list is compared to others. I'm scared to share the episode count.
That's not a very endearing label.
I own the other "populace" anime movies like Ghost in the Shell, Akira and Patlabor 2. But those were like 15-20 years ago?
I've also seen every episode of Cowboy Bebop and the Ghost in the Shell series. I also enjoyed the most recent season runs of Full Metal Alchemist (which is weird because I generally disliked the first season). All of those shows were incredibly well written.
I have made other attempts to find more recent stuff I might enjoy. I've yet to find it.
I don't expect it to be.
Hence the hardly affected perceptions. How hard is it to draw a generality, and a fair one at that, on a medium that produces, at most, 30 easily categorized, usually derivative series a season? (That chart isn't completely correct, but it serves the purpose) The one or two Ikuharas can't mean a thing to the complete painting when they are, quite literally, the only one or two Ikuharas being made at the time. 'Not watching the right stuff' isn't the issue.
most series become popular/syndicated and turn to shit after the 4th or so season. The best series I have seen are 1-2 seasons like cowboy bebop or GITs.usually its the shounen shows that get dragged out to death like naruto or bleach. One piece is the lone exception that is consistently entertaining
A large chunk of those immediately look unappealing to me based on art design alone but I will give the ones that look interesting to me an honest try.
Thanks!
Haha! And Watanabe is 2/2, yeah.
Crash Station
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There is not one character in One Piece that refuses to kill. It just kind of turns out that way because everyone outside of flashbacks
and Ace/Whitebeard
This sounds like a boatload of ignorance. I hope you check out the thread that was linked because your opinion of the medium seems very close-minded and not entirely accurate.
That tends to happen when you know nothing of it.
Oh it's most certainly ignorant for I am not an anime enthusiast. This is all based on the impression I came back with after going out on my own, trying to find stuff myself and just being immediately turned off by it all.
I will get back with my impressions once I see a few of the things listed in that thread.
I will admit I've never had a forum like NeoGAF to refer to. I'm still skeptical but It may certainly help.
YUP.
Anime/manga will be a short stay if you weed out based on art design. I'm part of the art camp and I just appreciate the tiny flickers of quality that come out. Focusing on the negative will only gimp you from enjoying some series with great narratives, character development, etc...
Lovely Complex comes to mind.
Finaika
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You should check out You're Under Arrest, I think you will like it.
If a series does not have at least good art it is not a great series.
So this:
...is a strange statement.
Crash Station
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I just find it interesting that you cite Fullmetal Alchemist when, while good, isn't really all that special. I think many people consider the setup to be rather juvenile which seems to be one of your complaints about the medium in general.
I think you misread my post...I think...
Full Metal Alchemist I suppose was a good example of that for me. I dislike the general character design for that series even if the animation it's self is extremely high in quality in the most recent stuff. Everything else about it though I really, really enjoyed.
It's a big ladder to climb for me mentally when I look at most of what's out there. I just kind of roll my eyes and say "come on" and move on. While this is a personal hurdle I'm sure this is the case for a lot of people who don't care for anime.
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Its odd how this is much less the case in manga. A lot more mature (and actually mature, not the way you thought yyh was mature when you were 12) stuff like boti/vagabond/path of the assassin / lone wolf and cub / nausicaa , etc. Because theres much lower overhead costs in manga I suspect people are able to have more creative control, and are able to release things more irregularly, allowing them to put a lot more thought into each issue (weekly manga sucks).
Can you give an example of what will make you roll your eyes and say "come on" ?
Define mature.
I think as a package it's extremely well done. I did not enjoy the original run of that series whatsoever.
Sure, a lot of that absolutely contains the typical anime tropes. I'm not saying it's unique or innovative by any means. I just found it compelling for whatever reason which is more than I can say for other stuff I've watched.
Crash Station
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Vagabond is not mature.
Ultimadrago
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Here goes....
Bleach was good, until the first arc ended
Watching Azumanga Daioh is the easiest method to fall asleep
Nichijou is the greatest slice-of-comedy of all time.
Paprika wasn't good.
One Piece fell off in entertainment factor from CP9 onwards
Panty & Stocking isn't funny
The dub to Soul Eater is fine. Hell, I even kinda like it, even (for the most part).
Eyeshield 21 is one of the best anime ever to revolve around a sport/game
Bleach was good, until the first arc ended
Watching Azumanga Daioh is the easiest method to fall asleep
Nichijou is the greatest slice-of-comedy of all time.
Paprika wasn't good.
One Piece fell off in entertainment factor from CP9 onwards
Panty & Stocking isn't funny
The dub to Soul Eater is fine. Hell, I even kinda like it, even (for the most part).
Eyeshield 21 is one of the best anime ever to revolve around a sport/game
Crash Station
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Vagabond is less mature than Berserk.
- anime hair
- anime eyes
- bubbly, big boobed female characters
- everyone is a teenager
- soppy love stories
Etcetera, etcetera...
At face value it's very hard for a pessimist to look at the genre and not just cock their head in bewilderment.
It's also incredibly boring.
Nobody stated such a criteria!
What is "anime eyes" and "anime hair" ?
You're not being very specific here. There are many different styles within anime, despite what you may believe at the moment.
Crash Station
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Sounds like FMA to me.
Indeed!
pretty sure only the main 2 characters were teenagers
For the record, I am not attempting to defend FMA.
I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
Mortrialus
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For the record, I am not attempting to defend FMA.
I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
I don't watch Bleach, but that picture makes it look very "neutral" to me, almost to a fault.
This is hardly indicative of most anime. I recommend going through that one thread; or, I could probably recommend stuff myself.I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
This is why long running shounen shows are bad. Not only are they low quality, but they mislead newcomers into thinking every anime is as ugly as their series is.
Neffarias_Bredd
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I really like Samurai Champloo's OST, but I think it could've been a lot better
bengraven
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Maybe I just cling to the negative. I remember when Disney dubbing started with, I think Princess Mononoke and I was still part of the anime fandom and the negativity was very heavy.
Princess Mononoke's dub is Miramax, though.
and it is horrifying
I'll use Bleach as an example.
Like that I guess.
Not sure what your scale for maturity is, but its leaps and bounds ahead of other anime. The artist actually understands how to draw a human being. That is so goddamn rare in this medium.
Also: fma was a lot better than any of the dbz derivitives. It had some of the russian doll issues, but it seemed to actually have a plan through the story, and it had the benefit of being released on a monthly (or atleast not weekly) basis, so there was actual development in each chapter. Can't speak for the first run of the manga though. Seemed to suffer from the usual issue of basing an anime off of an unfinished manga.
(worth nothing that the ending was shit when it tried to be evangelion or something and failed)
Crash Station
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Might be a few I'm missing.
I wouldn't say drawing correct proportions isn't a sign of more maturity, at least not significantly.
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