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[Jim E. Rossler]

I Know girls want me, I just need to get my ass out the house and indulge them /bronzewolf

But My contact list is pretty low, I need to get more to open up more opportunities for me

There's a Hickory Tavern 10min away, Maybe I'll go there and get some drinks and make some friends, is that how it works? Man I dont even

ALSO, I'm taking a girl to the gun range for the 2nd time (it's the 3rd time out together total), I have Kino'd the shit out of her at the range helping her shoot/her posture, but nothing more than that
I want to take it further and kiss her, but as I've never given two shits about dating, this is the most I've ever done with a girl, ergo I've never kissed anyone. Is it hard to mess up?

 

[Etrian Oddity]

I want to take it further and kiss her, but as I've never given two shits about dating, this is the most I've ever done with a girl, ergo I've never kissed anyone. Is it hard to mess up?

Yes. Don't stick your tongue down her throat.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Any advice as to how to be more assertive? I always get trapped in a situation where it's like:

'where would you like to eat'

'what movie would you like to see'

etc.

and I make the mistake of saying "I'm pretty flexible, what sounds good to you?" and she takes the submissive route and wants me to decide, which I have trouble doing. Kind of fits into an overall need to be more decisive but I have trouble doing that because I always worry about which choice is best or if I should really go for asking this or that or grabbing her hand at this point or not etc.

What advice could anyone give? Say what you want.

"Where do you want to eat?"

"This place. I'll pick you up at 7."

DONE. You're worried about saying the wrong thing when it doesn't matter. If she doesn't like your suggestion, she'll offer her own. If she likes you, she doesn't care if she liked what you picked. Be a man.

 

[Atramental]

Well, learned from the meetup that there's still some people who still seem to follow my progress with interest on here.

Of course, I mainly do not post here anymore because there is no progression. No fault of anyone or anything. Just me going through one of those periods where I become aloof and unconcerned about my social situation (mind becomes preoccupied thinking about other things, like employment and such). So, can't say much when I haven't put any effort into things.

Dunno when I'll get motivated or what could motivate me. At least, until I have a random mood swing one night when I begin cursing my solitude out of the blue.

Edit: Let me find you a video that will help you.

Here's a good one for both Combine and Jackben:

Anthony Robbins - Take Action

 

[Jim E. Rossler]

Yes. Don't stick your tongue down her throat.

Any less obvious tips for me?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I want to take it further and kiss her, but as I've never given two shits about dating, this is the most I've ever done with a girl, ergo I've never kissed anyone. Is it hard to mess up?

While I don't have any personal experience in this arena, I think there's only one real way to fuck it up...

Don't do that, you'll be fine.

 

[Sadetar]

Please push for more sex... it's for your own good. It calms girls out

CF_Fighter, you better listen our maestro here. And if you have sex many times with her, she will calm down and be more confident around you. That most likely also lead to the fact, she will feel ok to be totally naked around you. So yep, be a good boy, have lots of sex and praise her much.

New Chick says she would be delighted to go out with me. HAHA Score!

Attaboy. *pat pat*

What advice could anyone give? Say what you want.

"Where do you want to eat?"

"This place. I'll pick you up at 7."

DONE. You're worried about saying the wrong thing when it doesn't matter. If she doesn't like your suggestion, she'll offer her own. If she likes you, she doesn't care if she liked what you picked. Be a man.

This. If a girl asks you were do you want to eat, she seriously wants to hear your opinion.

Any less obvious tips for me?

It is not hard. Go with the flow. You will notice if she is into it more or when she wants to end it. Oh and yeah, you are not trying to eat her, you are just kissing her.

Orgy?

I think we are on the same page here.

 

[Jim E. Rossler]

While I don't have any personal experience in this arena, I think there's only one real way to fuck it up...

Don't do that, you'll be fine.

He's....
....EATING her....

 

[Sadetar]

He's....
....EATING her....

Well, to be more exact, they are eating each others. The girl seems to be quite happy about it too.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Amazing Advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhjHBV20ZV4

"Poor old Granddad, I laughed at all his words
I thought he was a bitter man
he spoke of women's ways
they'll trap you when they use you
before you even now
for love is blind and you're far to kind
don't ever let it show

I wish that I knew what I know now
when I was younger
I wish that I knew what I know now
when I was stronger

the can-can such a pretty show
will steal your heart away
but backstage back on earth again
the dressing rooms are grey
they come on strong and it ain't too long
for they make you feel a man
but love is blind and you soon will find
you're just a boy again

when you want her lips, you get her cheek
makes you wonder where you are
if you want some more then she's fast asleep
leaves you twinkling with the stars
poor young grandson there's nothing I can say
you'll have to learn, just like me
and that's the hardest way

ooh la la
ooh la la, la la, yeah"



It's like a wise rapper once said. B1tches ain't nuthin but hoes and tricks.

 

[Jackben]

He's....
....EATING her....

@gif: "He's eating her! And then he's going to eat me! Oh my gooooooo-od!"

@advice: less think more do, got it. Will put this into action tonight. Thanks for humouring my somewhat open-ended question.

 

[Smelly Tramp]

bitches i like 'em brainless, guns i like 'em stainless steel!

 

[Buckethead]

I want to take it further and kiss her, but as I've never given two shits about dating, this is the most I've ever done with a girl, ergo I've never kissed anyone. Is it hard to mess up?

You'll get the hang of it.

Quick tip would be to start with a smaller kiss/less lip and gradually add more as you get into it.
Focus more on the top lip or bottom lip if that makes any sense. Don't avoid one or the other but yeah.

If she's down with making out then softly brush her lower lip with your tounge and see her reaction.
Then do the same but a little more tounge and on her tounge not her lip, obviously.

Practice makes perfect.

Also variety is the spice of life so change it up with styles/whatever.

And don't do the Spiderman kiss shit is overrated.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Any advice as to how to be more assertive? I always get trapped in a situation where it's like:

'where would you like to eat'

'what movie would you like to see'

etc.

and I make the mistake of saying "I'm pretty flexible, what sounds good to you?" and she takes the submissive route and wants me to decide, which I have trouble doing. Kind of fits into an overall need to be more decisive but I have trouble doing that because I always worry about which choice is best or if I should really go for asking this or that or grabbing her hand at this point or not etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2jAwiq6YsE

 

[SpectreFire]

Well that was a different first date. Coffee ended up with makeout session and blowjob in her car.

I feel good again.

 

[Hylian7]

Well that was a different first date. Coffee ended up with makeout session and blowjob in her car.

I feel good again.

brb acquiring a taste for coffee.

 

[Acid08]

Well that was a different first date. Coffee ended up with makeout session and blowjob in her car.

I feel good again.

I need to make a trip up to Vancouver sometime. Being a Sharks fan will probably not do me any favors though. Maybe I could get a spite blowjob.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Well that was a different first date. Coffee ended up with makeout session and blowjob in her car.

I feel good again.

Well I got one-upped today, lol....

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I need to make a trip up to Vancouver sometime. Being a Sharks fan will probably not do me any favors though. Maybe I could get a spite blowjob.

Hate sex.

 

[Tess3ract]

Idk about "hate" sex but pissed off sex is the best sex. Girls no longer are pissed afterwards

everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg is my face when that happens

 

[SpectreFire]

I need to make a trip up to Vancouver sometime. Being a Sharks fan will probably not do me any favors though. Maybe I could get a spite blowjob.

Should've gone last summer and got some good pity sex.

 

[Acid08]

Should've gone last summer and got some good pity sex.

As if. I know how you Canucks fans are.

 

[SpectreFire]

As if. I know how you Canucks fans are.

She'd be a riot in bed!

 

[Jhoan]

So I came back from the speed dating thing numberless; it was fun though. Here's the deal: I ended up talking to a huge line of dudes (all straight of course), before I talked finally talked to two chicks.

One of the chicks was extremely geeky (she's a member of Dumbledore's Army; a Harry Potter fan club at my school), so I knew there was nothing there. Another chick was an art major like me; she was attractive and was into me. I made her laugh and made good conversation all around in the course of the 3 minutes. However, I didn't get her number once it was all said and done; honestly, I dug her since we had a lot in common.We had to give the dating paper to the student government people (for what purpose, I don't know; I'm inferring that it's to notify you by email if the chick is down to date or be a friend).

I quickly made friends with this one dude who was frustrated because he didn't get to talk to any chicks at all. I told him to sit on some chick's table (which was I really wanted to do); he didn't listen. I told him not to worry about it; he complained that because he's taking night classes, most of the chicks are either married or in a relationship.

In the end after we came out, in the hall, there were these two attractive white girls. I kept telling him that we should talk to them, he was on and off about it. He told me he would do it if I took the lead; I over thought about it, awkwardly lingered around before they went back to the room that the event was in. He left once he saw that they left.

Any way so there was this Pakistani dude that happened to be near me that was in that event talking to a couple of dudes. He notices them going back towards the room. So he did what any sane man who has nothing to lose did, walks down towards them and engages them in conversation, shaking their hands and all. Several minutes later, he comes back exclaiming "I have a date with one of them!"

Since I only met these dudes, I proceed to ask Mr. Confidence Guy how he did it and he said "I think I'm the hottest guy in the world" as a mantra and so it worked. I asked him if he's worried about the competition and he said he doesn't care. In the speed dating event he intentionally sat on the same tables that women were on; I didn't. In other words, the guy believes in himself. He told his friend (he was auditioning for a play) that he's the man and he can do it. His friend came out saying that he got the part because that dude's positive encouragement.

So eventually I got to know the dudes that I just met that were in his company, including him since his optimistic attitude was extremely infectious to the point that it got to me too. I made out with his number since he's a student as well and it's rare to meet a guy who's confidence level is much higher than mines and is very positive; as a straight guy, I find that quality admirable in a man.

I'm not mad that I didn't get a number because I was there to enjoy myself. On the contrary, it affirmed that I'm a good conversationalist with men and women, that I'm funny, and that I can make friends surprisingly easy because I say what ever is on my mind (I have a charming quality attracts people to me but I'll never know what it is). It was most certainly fun and I think I made a potentially good and important friend (if he replies).

So it goes to show to guys that have social anxiety that post in this thread that you don't to go a social event to specifically meet women as a priority. You can still have fun talking to guys and shooting the breeze and still have a good time. Go out there and put yourselves in these types of uncomfortable situations. I was sweating bullets out my arm pits but that didn't keep me from having a good time or leaving a minute in.

 

[mcrae]

im confused the format of it. isnt it ususally women all sitting at 1 person tables and you're all assigned a table to start at, then you rotate every x minutes? it sounds from what you're saying like you had choice in where you sat and could sit, or not sit with women based on the size of your testicles

 

[Jhoan]

im confused the format of it. isnt it ususally women all sitting at 1 person tables and you're all assigned a table to start at, then you rotate every x minutes? it sounds from what you're saying like you had choice in where you sat and could sit, or not sit with women based on the size of your testicles

Yup, I could have sat wherever I wanted; a lot of the seats that had a woman on them were taken. It was exactly that: move to the left every 3 minutes; rinse and repeat. I'm not kicking myself over it, but I was a bit annoyed that I talked to mostly dudes.

 

[Hylian7]

Alright, I know I should really stop harping on this, but I think I should tell this story. At least it might make me feel somewhat better to tell it, I don't know.

I think I learned the truth about my breakup a few weeks ago. It wasn't really "us fighting", or her leaving me for that other guy (more likely that guy was just lined up for when the breakup eventually happened), or anything else. I now know exactly what it was.

Chi Alpha. For those that don't know, this is an national Christian organization (in the US) on many college campuses. You can read their Wikipedia entry for more information about them in general, but not for what I'm about to tell you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Alpha

First, a little background. About two years ago, I realized that I didn't really believe in any "God" and was actually an Atheist. Being in a Catholic family, and in an extremely religious area otherwise, I kept my mouth shut about this for an entire year, until I told my girlfriend (now ex) about 11 months ago. She was slightly taken aback by it, but was just kind of like "Okaaaaay." Then she wanted to do something new, she wanted to go to these "small group" meetings with a friend she met in one of her classes that semester. This was for Chi Alpha, and this was where the trouble really started.

Tonight I went bowling with my coworkers, and I had to give one girl (she's taken, not gonna happen, so don't go there) a ride there and back. I had talked to her before about this breakup, but I had never actually mentioned the Chi Alpha part of it, just that my ex was religious and I wasn't, and that was probably something that contributed to it. We were talking about it on the way back, and I brought up that my ex joined Chi Alpha pretty much right after I told her about my lack of belief. Immediately, she said "That's exactly what caused the breakup." I was like "Well I'm sure it contributed, but..." and she said "No, that's exactly it." I let her explain. She used to be in Chi Alpha herself, but now she is Agnostic. She went to the "small group" meetings, which are only women or only men (each college has many "small groups"), got baptised, went to their church services they have every Thursday night. She told me of how Chi Alpha brainwashes people. At her "small group", they would talk about how they should look for a "godly" man, and shouldn't be around the "non-godly" types, and many things like that. There was a whole lot more to it that explained so many of my ex's actions over that 10 month space of time since I told her I was an Atheist.

She told me it definitely was not my fault in that case, and it was definitely Chi Alpha that caused it, and given everything she told me, I believe her. Maybe it really was not my fault after all. I thought about it, and I remembered how much more reasonable of a person my ex used to be before she joined Chi Alpha. Honestly, I do hold a grudge against that organization over it. They're a fucking cult and the way they brainwash people is disgusting.

 

[Buckethead]

Do they brainwash them? I doubt it. You may see it as that but it's just good advice.

Not only is she being loyal to her holy book but it makes sense.

If religion isn't important to you - it shouldn't be to your partner.Otherwise it's doomed to fail.
If you really really love meat and you want to date a hardcore vegetarian - don't. It'll hit the fan eventually.

It sucks. You both changed your minds and grew apart but it'd be counter-productive to try to shoulder through or whatever.r

 

[Hylian7]

Do they brainwash them? I doubt it. You may see it as that but it's just good advice.

Not only is she being loyal to her holy book but it makes sense.

If religion isn't important to you - it shouldn't be to your partner.Otherwise it's doomed to fail.
If you really really love meat and you want to date a hardcore vegetarian - don't. It'll hit the fan eventually.

It sucks. You both changed your minds and grew apart but it'd be counter-productive to try to shoulder through or whatever.r

But the thing was, she wasn't even that extremely religious before. It was pretty much "Yeah, I'm Christian.", and then she was sleeping in on Sundays. After she started going to Chi Alpha, she changed, and it was for the worse.

 

[overcast]

I want to take it further and kiss her, but as I've never given two shits about dating, this is the most I've ever done with a girl, ergo I've never kissed anyone. Is it hard to mess up?

I had my first legitimate makeout session with my (now) GF a few months back. Don't sweat it too much, go with the flow. Don't use too much tongue at all. It's unnecessary in your first kiss. It's a great feeling though man, have fun.

 

[Jackben]

Decided to play a game where I would be different and just make the suggestions all night as well as the first moves towards everything I did with my date.

It went really really well.

After the first couple of things ("we're going here / lets watch this" / kino etc.) the rest came unconsciously like I was just making moves without worrying or thinking about it. I stumbled a few times but it wasn't even bad at all and was quickly forgotten. I even got a bit cheeky when she said she really liked back rubs, saying "Do you like kissing too?" before I went in for the first kiss with this girl (which led to several more).

Went from a quick date at the coffee shop (met her and talked for about 15 minutes) to a second date at the movies that was followed up with lots of talking, kissing and touching at her house. She said I could stay or go but I decided to leave because I do have high hopes for this girl, I really like her and I think we have a lot of potential.

I know I always had it in me to do this, but thanks for the reaffirmation in a moment of doubt, GAF.

Spoiler

Also whoever posted the godfather video, fucking lol

 

[overcast]

Nicely done man.

 

[Tess3ract]

I know I always had it in me to do this, but thanks for the reaffirmation in a moment of doubt, GAF.

Kenji, is this another feminist conspiracy?

Spoiler

How deep undercover are you?

 

[Kalnos]

But the thing was, she wasn't even that extremely religious before. It was pretty much "Yeah, I'm Christian.", and then she was sleeping in on Sundays. After she started going to Chi Alpha, she changed, and it was for the worse.

Chi Alpha can't FORCE you to believe certain things though, she decided these things on her own. I briefly went through something similar but my girlfriend decided it really wasn't important to her if I wasn't a Christian, unfortunately, your girlfriend decided it was.

If you being a Christian is that important to your ex then she did the right thing by letting you go, though she could have given you better closure.

 

[Buckethead]

But the thing was, she wasn't even that extremely religious before. It was pretty much "Yeah, I'm Christian.", and then she was sleeping in on Sundays. After she started going to Chi Alpha, she changed, and it was for the worse.

Well that's how becoming religious or unreligious goes. It's brewing for awhile but changes very quickly once it hits critical mass.

If people are legit about their religion, it's important that their partner is as well. Them's the bricks.

But you say "changed for the worse"... how?

 

[Jackben]

Kenji, is this another feminist conspiracy?

Spoiler

How deep undercover are you?

I won't quit until I get those launch codes!

Spoiler

the codes are in her pants

 

[Hylian7]

Chi Alpha can't FORCE you to believe certain things though, she decided these things on her own. I briefly went through something similar but my girlfriend decided it really wasn't important to her if I wasn't a Christian, unfortunately, your girlfriend decided it was.

If you being a Christian is that important to your ex then she did the right thing by letting you go, though she could have given you better closure.

True, but their ideals are quite fucked up in my opinion. At least I have the closure now, from an alternate source.

Well that's how becoming religious or unreligious goes. It's brewing for awhile but changes very quickly once it hits critical mass.

If people are legit about their religion, it's important that their partner is as well. Them's the bricks.

But you say "changed for the worse"... how?

Well, for starters, I used to be Catholic and she is Methodist. Already they think "Catholics are weird", etc. But she never really raised a beef about that before I told her about my change of belief. Afterward, occasionally she would bring up something about how she thinks that "After we die we will be seperated forever." My friend told me tonight that this is something that Chi Alpha taught, using the exact same phrasing my ex did.

She also started having a completely new group of friends she hung out with, and just kicking the old ones to the curb and hating them. It was completely out of the blue. "Getting away from non-godly people." was another Chi Alpha teaching. Her new friends were obviously all Chi Alpha people.

She got really weird about some subject sometimes too. This only happened once, so it isn't much evidence, but we had really crazy sex one night, and then afterward she was just like "You know, I feel bad about doing that, like I feel like a bad person. Do you know what I mean?" I was like "No, not at all actually." She would also masturbate and she watched porn while doing so a lot of the time. Suddenly one day she says "I don't think I'm going to look at porn anymore." I asked why, she says "I just think it's wrong and I'll go to hell for it."

On top of that, she would always try to recruit people to go to Chi Alpha, even me, knowing I was not religious. She kept trying to get one of our friends to go (one she eventually started hating) and I already knew she would not go, she was not religious and there was no way she would be interested in something like that. My ex just told me "I know she wants to be a part of it too." and she would not believe me when I told her I was pretty damn sure she did not. Chi Alpha is notorious for always trying to recruit people. One of their teachings is why they should always try to bring everyone around them into Chi Alpha.

I did give her rides to these "small group" meetings sometimes, and I would ask what they talked about when I picked her up. She wouldn't really say much about it. I found out this is because they were pretty much saying why you should avoid non-religious men like the plague.

Edit: I forgot the biggest one of them all in my opinion. Originally, when I told her about my beliefs, she didn't want me to tell the potential kids about them until they were 18. Later, this became NEVER. Obviously I disagreed with it either way. Her argument was that it would "divide our family" and "make them choose between mom and dad". I told her why that was bullshit but she wouldn't believe me. Another Chi Alpha teaching was for them to marry young, and have the good ol' nuclear family. She was pressuring me to get engaged quite a bit sometimes during all this.

 

[Buckethead]

stuff

She's going through a process of changing her self-identity and her value system.

Most of the stuff you're telling me (sex guilt, stay away from non-Christians) is consistent with Christian doctrine/the Bible so I don't know... it doesn't really surprise me.

I think that religious people can be super weird about things, certainly, and sometimes they take things too far because they're swayed by a person's opinion.

But as I said she's trying to change. She needs a clean break from the culture of her past or at this current point in time or else she'll fall back into her "old ways".
It's not unlike someone in a substance abuse program - they can't go near their old stomping grounds else they'll get wrapped up in the culture and old memories will come back and they'll relapse.

Going back to the meat/vegetarian comparison - if you're pro-meat you probably see vegetarianism as pretty silly. Sure you might be able to respect their concern for animals
but you yourself see eating animals as super tasty. So when she is ditching her old friends, it's because if she's going to be a legit Christian then there will be a clash in values much
like a meat eater and a staunch vegetarian. Maybe they'll be able to co-exist eventually but it won't be a deep connection and right now she's immature in heir convictions and needs time to grow strong.

You may think she's crazy or whatever, I'm just trying to explain it so it's understandable.

 

[Neki]

I don't know how you guys ever fit kino into a conversation. never seems like the appropriate time for me, lol.

 

[Sadetar]

I am at work and try to pretend I am working. It seems when I look at the computer screen and type, people actually believe I would be doing something important.

Insert awesome story.

Darling, we are very proud of you. That is the way to go.

Jipan, at least you had fun and make new contacts, even if with males. It is easier to hit girls when you have active group of friends and you feel comfortable in social situations. I am sure you will do awesome in the future.

Well that was a different first date. Coffee ended up with makeout session and blowjob in her car.

I feel good again.

And you should. Brilliant. I also hope you were a good boy and decided the next date (time and place) with her already. Ah, this is absolutely adorable. It is very entertaining to read happy stories and see you lads evolving like little Pokemons. ^__^ (And yes, I am very tired and I giggle alone at work. Good times.)

If religion isn't important to you - it shouldn't be to your partner.Otherwise it's doomed to fail.
If you really really love meat and you want to date a hardcore vegetarian - don't. It'll hit the fan eventually.

This all is very true so better listen these wise words. I seriously couldn't never even think of dating a lad, who would believe in God, gods or basicly any deity what so ever. I can already imagine the disaster. You can neither change a girl nor you should even try. If there is some basic things wrong from the beginning, better save your time and money to something else.

 

[Minamu]

Weird Friday. There were maybe 40 people at the party, but downtown was completely deserted. There was literally the four of us guys on the dance floor at the second largest club in the city xD We left before closing but I heard they closed down before the regular time which is just crazy. However, at one of the smaller places the next street over, it was basically stacked to the roof. Not much happened but the sweetest girls were all around us on the dance floor because we seemingly have a lot more energy than most guys. We just need to grow some fucking balls :lol

 

[Xun]

Well, learned from the meetup that there's still some people who still seem to follow my progress with interest on here.

Of course, I mainly do not post here anymore because there is no progression. No fault of anyone or anything. Just me going through one of those periods where I become aloof and unconcerned about my social situation (mind becomes preoccupied thinking about other things, like employment and such). So, can't say much when I haven't put any effort into things.

Dunno when I'll get motivated or what could motivate me. At least, until I have a random mood swing one night when I begin cursing my solitude out of the blue.

You'll be fine man.

Just ensure you go out as much as you can, and I'm sure there are people from the GAF meetup you could go drinking with.

 

[rkn]

re: my previous post, thanks for the advice fellas.

 

[Miguel]

Edit: crazy phone... Double post 20 mins apart lol.

 

[Miguel]

Found out some hilarious things about the past that started off my weekend on a high note. Friend's birthday party was super fun, caught up with some old friends, was texting with my date for tonight then my friends joined in the shenanigans lol. Fun night. Have another birthday party in like an hour, beers at a local brewery, then home to rest up before the date. Looking like an awesome weekend.

 

[Jhoan]

Well, learned from the meetup that there's still some people who still seem to follow my progress with interest on here.

Of course, I mainly do not post here anymore because there is no progression. No fault of anyone or anything. Just me going through one of those periods where I become aloof and unconcerned about my social situation (mind becomes preoccupied thinking about other things, like employment and such). So, can't say much when I haven't put any effort into things.

Dunno when I'll get motivated or what could motivate me. At least, until I have a random mood swing one night when I begin cursing my solitude out of the blue.

Dude, like I told you in that meet up thread, you did good; it takes a lot of guts to meet strangers from the internet but you did it. Go to social events that interest you. If there's a launch party for a big game, go for it man. I remember when I went to a Capcom Fight Club over two years ago by myself, I went with the intention of having fun and to take pictures. A couple of hours later, I met a couple of cool people who were fun.

We ended up taking pictures together, having fun, and whatnot. To this day, I still keep in contact with a couple of dudes that I met from there every now and then to see what's up. So dude, don't go into social events thinking "I'm forever alone." Go to experience it and if you feel uncomfortable, then it's a good feeling because it means you're doing it.

Jipan, at least you had fun and make new contacts, even if with males. It is easier to hit girls when you have active group of friends and you feel comfortable in social situations. I am sure you will do awesome in the future.

Yes ma'am, I most certainly did. Positivity is very contagious (you're doing exactly what that guy did yesterday; it's the point of this thread). Got to think positively. Thanks for all the encouraging words, not just from you but from the guys as well.

Tonight's NYC GAF meet up is going to be the icing on the cake, so I'm looking forward to it. GAF meet ups are another thing that I strongly encourage every one with or without social anxiety do because every one is a gaffer and it's nice meeting the faces behind the avatars and user names in person.

 

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Update to this post.

We went out last night after work and got a bite to eat. Then we went to a basketball game which the home team won! Conversation was good through out the night and I kept kino escalating by giving her high fives during the game. I also put my hand on her lower back as we navigated through the crowd. I was anticipating that I would go home and drop her off and go for the kiss but sometimes plans change.

After the game she told me one of her friends was having a birthday at one of the down town clubs. I was pretty tired, but I felt like I should go. We ended up getting down there before her fiends and got a few drinks.

Her friends start to show up and she told me they all liked me a lot. I even bought the birthday guy a drink. I believe this is really important when meeting a new girl. You have to impress her friends almost just as much as her. All I did was make general chat with them and even escalated kino by toasting drinks and hand shaking. My energy was pretty drained when I got there, but after a few drinks I started to loosen up. I knew I had to stay upbeat or I could really fuck this up.

I started chatting with one of her friends and he was in his 40's. Somehow the conversation came up about getting girls at this club and he said it was really hard. I told him all he had to do was put himself out there and he would get some. He asked where I met my girl and I said at a work convention. He said I didn't have any street cred because getting a girl at work is easy. lol He got kind of hype on me and even challenged me to go get another girl while my girl was there. I could sense the bitterness and anger in his voice.

I accepted his challenge and walked over to two beautiful women and introduced myself. I pretty much got blown off after a min or two. Bowing out I turned around to return I had 2 woman dancing behind me. I looked at one of them and just started dancing with her. The girl got all excited and was trying to pull me in close, but I didn't want to grind up on her with my date 15 feet away. I looked over at the dude and flagged him over. He came over and was super excited and couldn't believe I did it. I let him dance with her and I returned to my date. Not sure what happened to him after that as I went back up stairs to another dance floor with my date.

We ended up dancing until close and making out a little bit. I was able to really escalate the kino at this point by pulling her close to me and hugging/kissing. After we left and went back to her place. I ended up staying the night, but I was so damn tired at this point I could barely keep my eyes open. We put on a movie and fell asleep on the couch together. I wanted to make more of a move to at least make out and stuff, but I could find the energy. At least she feels comfortable with me at her place now. Hopefully I can set up another date this week.

We both like movies and talked about seeing that new Denzel movie. I always try to find something on each date to lead to the next date. Also when I paid for dinner I told her I got this and she can get the next one. You can gauge her reaction to this and tell if she is feeling you or not. She actually ended up paying for all of my drinks at the club later so it probably even at this point.

TL DR: Had a great date and going to set up another one.

 

[Miguel]

Social GAF gatherings are pretty cool. I remember Wesley Crusher/Link, WasabiKing, Wellington, and crew all went out in LA during E3. We had a lunch gathering at the LACC and got to meet a bunch of people here, chat about random things about the board or just life in general. Then hours later I discovered the wonder of Elite Beat Agents for the first time. The group above hit up a Dodgers game too, I'm still really good friends with Wellie and WasabiKing. Too bad none of us live near each other cause we'd tear the town apart lol. dskillzhtown who's posted here recently is also a good friend, known him through here from like 2004. GAFers are generally pretty cool. It would be cool to have a Houston meet up, but it's much easier to do in some of the much larger cities as usual. Nyc/la

 

[Hypereides]

Someone explain this Kino to me
I understand what it is, how do you start doing it when you've never done that before?

Eye contact is the basic start, next comes something like a handshake/High five/brofist/secret handshake/pinky swear, after this a hug, after that elbows or/and shoulders, back... etc. etc. its all timing and escalation though. But be carefull about it, you may unintentionally come off as creepy if you intentionally try to "sneak it in there". Just do it as naturally as possible and act like yourself.

 

[Satanic Saint]

So folks, is a Facebook account neccesary for getting girls?