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Man-is-Obsolete
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All of those games have online play. Ridge Racer not sure of.
PushingButtons
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Went ahead and pulled the trigger on Amazon's 3G/WiFi + 8GB card + Screen Protector deal. Also took advantage of the B2G1 deal and nabbed Hot Shots Golf, Lumines, and Uncharted.
After playing Uncharted 3, I'm rather indifferent toward the Uncharted franchise. May end up selling it and putting the money towards Escape Plan.
After playing Uncharted 3, I'm rather indifferent toward the Uncharted franchise. May end up selling it and putting the money towards Escape Plan.
Admiral Snackbar
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Yeah, I was just zipping around in Wipeout with a buncha other players, but all multiplayer is WiFi, not 3G. 3G speeds just can handle it.
pharmboy044
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You can do all of that just not on 3G. 3G was never intended for online play.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Oh boy, this again.....
That is strictly one site's opinion on the cost of the parts. Cost could be higher, namely the screen being only $50 sounds hard to believe. Also it doesn't take into effect cost to R&D, Manufacture, Ship, Market, etc. Some of those budgets can be higher than the parts themselves.
If you factor in shipping costs, RND, software development and wholesale value then I would wager that they make $50 at the very highest.
This actually reassures me to be honest. I am going to buy one before a price drop, as I did with 3DS, so I prefer that they make money on them. It gives them more incentive to support the system.
Like other people have said, you can do all that over wifi. Not sure what is confusing you here. 3G is just for basic web surfing and small application downloads. Wireless gaming sucks even over 4G, not really a possibility.
MikeE21286
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Admiral Snackbar
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QFT, my exact thought.
Just a question; There was some debate earlier that PS Vita only did 1 PSN account per console. Is this still a fact? Debating on whether I should keep using my EU PSN with saved trophies or US PSN for better store.
I guess I could follow up with another question. Can you buy a PSP game from say, JPN PSN using PS3 and transfer it to a Vita using cable? Do both consoles HAVE to be logged in on the same PSN account for that to work?
I guess I could follow up with another question. Can you buy a PSP game from say, JPN PSN using PS3 and transfer it to a Vita using cable? Do both consoles HAVE to be logged in on the same PSN account for that to work?
DenogginizerOS
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Guys it's a fucking PS3 in your pocket with a beautiful screen, touch controls, and arguably the best launch lineup of any console ever. If you have the means, claim to be a gamer, and still sit this out, well, I feel sorry for you.
Sony aren't used to making a profit at launch. They aimed to sell the WiFi for $250 when they were first at the drawing board. For all we know that could simply have meant they aim to break even at launch NOT make a profit.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
There are plenty of factors that go behind the final pricing of a product, including R&D expenses. Bill of Materials should never be taken as an accurate indicator of how much it takes the manufacturer to create a product.
Both consoles had to be logged into the same account to do that on PSP.
The Vita does only allow one account at a time. You can switch accounts but it requires a factory reset. It basically means most of us will only use one account ever because of the hassle.
Man-is-Obsolete
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It is only an estimate (keyword) of the cost of parts only.
Having said that every console will have a price drop (Duh I know), and for what it's worth handhelds are more likely to drop price faster than home consoles.
Really it is up to you. If it is a system you want then go for it! I don't expect Sony to be so aggressive with price cuts. At best would be this holiday season the Vita may drop to $200 for the WiFi unit. I would gladly pay the $50 premium now to get a hold of this hardware for the next 8-9 months.
Snap that pic I asked you to!
The fact is, you can't compare the retail cost to the cost of materials. The materials are just one piece of it. There are many other factors contributing to the fact that they aren't making near 100 dollars on each unit.
Well at least you got your info from experts.
What does the game patch do?
The Elite
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Like a boss. I think gamers will pick this up in time. Some are understandably hesitant after the quick 3DS price drop last year. I couldn't bring myself to wait. It's such a fantastic piece of hardware with a great line up of games out of the gate.
Oh wow that kinda sucks since I got money on my EU PSN account... Guess I won't be using US PSN afterall.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Regardless of the bill of materials, is the experience Sony has created through the OS and all the social aspects worth it to you for $250? That is the question you should answer with your wallet.
Baller. PhD
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You also need to take a good hard look at the consumer electronics market. Yes, Sony usually takes a loss on their game consoles. How's that been working out for them?
Then there's Apple, who makes a gigantic profit on every single thing they sell. They're currently the most valuable company in the world. And let's not forget Nintendo, who can have some crappy quarters and still sleep on billions in the bank.
Who's business model is better? 2+2=4 etc. Just because taking a loss has been the standard in the past doesn't mean it's the correct way going forward. I personally appreciate that Sony is making a profit on the Vita. It's an indication that they may have finally pulled their heads out of their asses.
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[Maps] has been added to the home screen
[Photos] can now record video
Doesn't seem like a reason to update the system, hope it fixes the power-up issue some people have been having.
I took a video of one of the Gravity Daze race challenges. I'm a little hesitant to post it because the audio and video quality are pretty bad, and it's the first time I tried recording footage using a webcam. Anyways, here it is in all its 360p glory.
No real spoilers but it's an example of one of the challenges you can complete for a leaderboard ranking and gems. So far challenges seem to be divided into combat challenges (get as many points as possible by killing enemies in the time allotted) and checkpoint races.
No real spoilers but it's an example of one of the challenges you can complete for a leaderboard ranking and gems. So far challenges seem to be divided into combat challenges (get as many points as possible by killing enemies in the time allotted) and checkpoint races.
narcosis219
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People sadly can't ever see past the BOM as a cost for manufacturing a product.
Please consider:
Retail markup
Cost of manufacturing which includes:
-Cost of factory worker labour
-Logistics (shipping things around)
Cost of Research and Development (OH WAIT, ENGINEERS NEED TO EAT?)
Cost of advertising and marketing
you can't take screenshots while playing a psp game and that Tales thing isn't on the PSN. I think his friend had the Japanese version.
Oh, definitely, if they're making a profit, then by all means, more power to them. It's about time they do. It's definitely not 100 dollars though.
Bwahaha
You know what though? I've been seeing lots of patches lately, and it's a testament to the new Vita dev tools and kit that allows devs to push out patches much more quickly and easily.
Shining Sunshine
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lol... what a patch!
narcosis219
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5MB patch to fix "contrlo"
odhiex
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I like John Davison's review on PSVITA. Seems really fair in criticisms and also acknowledging its potentials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5sphAaBiRw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5sphAaBiRw
Freaking Scamco, lol.
Infinite Justice
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best patch ever
JennyTablina
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I was originally going to shun the Vita, but so many people have been saying such great things about it - that I sort of did a 360 degree turn and now have a Preorder on Amazon for a Wi-fi Vita, 8GB card and Lumines!
I liked the PSP but it seemed to be limited or very poorly treated by Sony. At least the PS3 integration cross-platform shenanigans don't seem to be for all the vita titles.I recall one of the PSP's major failings, is everyone would port any original title worth buying to the PS2 in it's early days.
Looking forward to some Wipeout and Super Stardust Delta as well, I do have to credit sony, the western launch line up is rather nice
I liked the PSP but it seemed to be limited or very poorly treated by Sony. At least the PS3 integration cross-platform shenanigans don't seem to be for all the vita titles.I recall one of the PSP's major failings, is everyone would port any original title worth buying to the PS2 in it's early days.
Looking forward to some Wipeout and Super Stardust Delta as well, I do have to credit sony, the western launch line up is rather nice
The price may go down, but a breakdown of hardware cost isn't exactly accurate. There's labour costs, shipping costs, package materials etc.
graywolf323
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every single one that came out on PSP in America is I believe
I forgot he was with GameSpot now
edit: wow that poll he cites is probably incredibly stupid
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