2012 NBA Feb |OT2| Kobe Bryant is a MAN

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One thing is, though, that OKC struggles guarding good PFs (ala Dirk) and Pau showed that again tonight. Plus, Harden generally struggles on D on Kobe and Kobe would be a lot better than he was tonight.

Durant still wasn't great vs Ron. Decent, but not his usual stuff (he got a lot against Barnes).

Plus Lakers offensive rebounding would be better if they weren't so tired. OKC wins the series, but I think Lakers make it hard for them.

This is all true, I'll admit
 
Here's what I don't get about Chuck's analysis.

Yes, a dominant big man should hurt OKC badly. He's right. problem is, who has a dominant big man?

Orlando ain't making the finals. Chi has Boozer, Miami has Bosh. Please.

Duncan ain't there anymore. Lakers have Pau/Drew, but their team is too weak after those 2 and Kobe.

That leaves just Dirk. Dallas is the only team i see that can beat them out west. And I'm not convinced Dallas gets that far.

I love Chuck criticizing OKC for not having post scoring.

Exactly who scores in the post on Miami or Chicago?

Exactly. And they do get easy points vs fast break and FT line.
 
Here's what I don't get about Chuck's analysis.

Yes, a dominant big man should hurt OKC badly. He's right. problem is, who has a dominant big man?

Orlando ain't making the finals. Chi has Boozer, Miami has Bosh. Please.

Duncan ain't there anymore. Lakers have Pau/Drew, but their team is too weak after those 2 and Kobe.

That leaves just Dirk. Dallas is the only team i see that can beat them out west. And I'm not convinced Dallas gets that far.

Meh, Portland has a shot of upsetting OKC in the first or second round if Crawful gets hot so LMA can't be doubled. I think Aldridge is pretty great.
 
If kobe played slightly better today lakers probably would have had a chance. But like he said, gotta have a perfect game to stand a chance at all in the playoffs.

Lakers were never winning tonight.

I told you this last night.

I honestly thought they'd go 0/2 on this roadie.

But who foresaw the Champs outshaming us last night?
 
Meh, Portland has a shot of upsetting OKC in the first or second round if Crawful gets hot so LMA can't be doubled. I think Aldridge is pretty great.

Aldridge is very good player, but he's not a dominate offensive player. It's his defense that puts him at the top levels.

But he won't beat OKC. And Portland may not even make the playoffs.

A rested and ready to go Pau and Bynum will have their way with OKC's front-court in the playoffs

You realize there's going to be a b2b in the playoffs, right!?!?
 
Grizz with healthy ZBo and best Gasol are really good inside. Spurs scare me in general. Huge BBIQ advantage on the court and bench and lethal outside shooting.
 
Aldridge is very good player, but he's not a dominate offensive player. It's his defense that puts him at the top levels.

But he won't beat OKC. And Portland may not even make the playoffs.

Aldridge isn't clutch and generally hasn't been super high volume or efficiency, but he killed Ibaka when they played this year for 40 and he's had a bunch of huge first halves this year before defenses started throwing double and triple teams at him because Portland's guards are incompetent. Just saying that while OKC probably wouldn't be hurt in the Finals with their lack of decent big men other than maybe Collison, it could leave them open for upsets like against Portland or Memphis.
 
Here's what I don't get about Chuck's analysis.

Yes, a dominant big man should hurt OKC badly. He's right. problem is, who has a dominant big man?

Orlando ain't making the finals. Chi has Boozer, Miami has Bosh. Please.

Duncan ain't there anymore. Lakers have Pau/Drew, but their team is too weak after those 2 and Kobe.

That leaves just Dirk. Dallas is the only team i see that can beat them out west. And I'm not convinced Dallas gets that far.
How are they going to stop all the Lin oops to Amare and Chandler in the Finals though? Or Melo scoring at will in the post?
 
Ibaka is a pretty average man defender. Yes, he blocks shots like da gawd, but still...
 
Mike will have Pau and Bynum rested at the end of the regular season, limit their minutes, have em sit out a couple games here and there so they'll be ready to roll in the playoffs and easily handle those B2Bs. I'm more worried about Pau and Bynum's legs than Kobe's.
 
My friends always talk shit to me about how much of a pessimist I am about the Knicks. They're just foolishly blind. I say I'd get rid of guys like Amare today if I could, and they mock me by saying "hopefully you never manage a team". I go in with low or realistic expectations into many matchups, and they critique me for being negative. Well, yeah...why in God's name would I expect a win against the Heat or Mavericks? They're better than us - their track records were proof enough. Sure, we beat the Mavs...barely. So I posted a little note on my FB to all of my friends, whom I decided to bail on today, by not going to the city to watch what I knew would be a blood bath and Lin's worst game of this stretch. But I suppose it can be used here for some of the diehard Knick fans, too...

So to my dearest Knicks fans:

I am as big a Knick fan as the next guy. But I'm a realist. While I do believe there is a resurgence, our max contract stars like Amare are shitting up our team. Your final excuse of 'they need time to gel' has officially arrived. It's the All Star Break. That means tons of practice ahead for a few overpaid scrubs that need it. If the post-Break Knicks don't improve considerably, and I'm talking .600+ status, what's the next excuse going to be? "Oh, wait for the next season!" Though, I really, really wish to be proven wrong and I'm not being sarcastic.
I get what you're saying, but why now? Our situation has been clear for a year. The only thing thats changed recently is that we got a starting PG out of nowhere, things are looking up at the moment, losing to the best team in the NBA shouldn't change that. Im all for pessimism but shit is looking much better now than it was a month ago, lighten up.
 
The game was disappointing because it exposed our inability to push the tempo. A quick PG who could get the ball up the court, and get into the paint would make things so much easier for Andrew and Pau. Fisher (bad entry passes) and Blake (not fast) just can't do that.
 
Wish we would've took a chance on Gilbert (seriously). He would've been motivated and stepped up to play in LA like his 60 point game a few years ago and accept any role including pass-first. It's like the troubled veterans that go to teams like the Patriots and start behaving because it's the Patriots and Belichick would bend you over if you didn't comply. Kobe is our Belichick. If Gilbert didn't play like his ass was on fire you know Kobe would put him in his place. That's why Kobe said he was down for signing Gilbert, he knows Gil would come to play and be motivated.
 
I get what you're saying, but why now? Our situation has been clear for a year. The only thing thats changed recently is that we got a starting PG out of nowhere, things are looking up at the moment, losing to the best team in the NBA shouldn't change that. Im all for pessimism but shit is looking much better now than it was a month ago, lighten up.

Because there is still one glaring, massive weakness in our lineup. The point guard. And I'm not taking anything away from Lin, so hear me out: our opponents know that when Lin is trapped or double teamed, they can either expect a turnover or a sloppy pass that will not convert to points. Our team is completely incapable of playing without a point guard - there is virtually no one with the intelligence of Lin who can create plays. Amare can't. Melo has some potential, but usually can't. Fields can't. Shumpert has some PG potential, but truly he's a 2 and a 3. JR has some potential to create a play, but he doesn't exhibit it very often.

Knicks need to change their backcourt line and bench Fields. He needs to become the 6th or 7th for the squad - Lin is a huge target and he needs someone with a bit of intellect to assist him out there. My starting 5 for the Knicks would be:

Lin
Davis
Melo
Jeffries
Chandler

Then depending on coverages against Lin, rotate Baron as needed with either JR or Shumpert. Likewise, you can rotate Melo with Fields, Shumpert, or JR as well. Jeffries would make a great starter for his defensive attributes - he can bring the momentum of the opposing team to a crawl as the 4 by stepping in and drawing those charges early on and preventing the team from getting early points on the board while they're fresh. Rotate Jeffries with Amare, Josh and Novak as needed for the P'n'Rs and 3PTs to gain and maintain offensive momentum. Likewise, Chandler's help could also include the rotation of Amare and Harrellson into the 5 - they're both capable 4/5s.

But of course, God forbid we should ever have a star player come off the bench.
 
Mike will have Pau and Bynum rested at the end of the regular season, limit their minutes, have em sit out a couple games here and there so they'll be ready to roll in the playoffs and easily handle those B2Bs. I'm more worried about Pau and Bynum's legs than Kobe's.

Really? When those couple games might be the difference between a 5th seed and missing the playoffs?
 
Aldridge isn't clutch and generally hasn't been super high volume or efficiency, but he killed Ibaka when they played this year for 40 and he's had a bunch of huge first halves this year before defenses started throwing double and triple teams at him because Portland's guards are incompetent. Just saying that while OKC probably wouldn't be hurt in the Finals with their lack of decent big men other than maybe Collison, it could leave them open for upsets like against Portland or Memphis.

memphis is ZBo is healthy and back is a team I think could upset 'em.

Portland to me isn't a playoff type team. I think with the games slowed down and teams keying in on defense, we'd see them struggle just like the previous seasons. OKC can just double LMA in the post and I think they're done for.
 
Aldridge isn't clutch and generally hasn't been super high volume or efficiency, but he killed Ibaka when they played this year for 40 and he's had a bunch of huge first halves this year before defenses started throwing double and triple teams at him because Portland's guards are incompetent. Just saying that while OKC probably wouldn't be hurt in the Finals with their lack of decent big men other than maybe Collison, it could leave them open for upsets like against Portland or Memphis.

For what it's worth Portland did win in OKC and make the one in Portland pretty close (nic batum goes hard to the basket and dunks that ball we take that game) And go back and watch that game, no could stop Aldridge in the post, (Perk had like 4 or 5 fouls as did collison) the problem was we went away from him in that game and our guards settled for crappy 3's.

If we do lose in the playoffs to them it won't be because Aldridge wasn't good enough, it'll be because our guards can't capitalize on double teams or be clutch in general. Although I'm hoping that Jamal can develop into somewhat of a late game closer.
 
I thought OKC has one of the better defensive front courts in the nba. Why are people acting like they are miami?

OKC is 14th in overall defense, which is stunning given their youth and athleticism in a lockout shortened season.

They are horrible at forcing turnovers and defensive rebounding. They also give up the 5th most FGs at the rim per game and are average at fouling. On the flip side, they give up a low number of long 2s and 3s. Their perimeter D is what drives them.

Ibaka is a great weakside shot blocker, but he sucks in man defense and gets caught overhelping a lot leading to extra offensive rebounds and passes for layups.
 
So ridiculous that wasn't called a flagrant at all.

wow. 3 threes for MWP!?!?

Bull. Haywood went for the ball.

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Here's what I don't get about Chuck's analysis.

Yes, a dominant big man should hurt OKC badly. He's right. problem is, who has a dominant big man?

Orlando ain't making the finals. Chi has Boozer, Miami has Bosh. Please.

Duncan ain't there anymore. Lakers have Pau/Drew, but their team is too weak after those 2 and Kobe.

That leaves just Dirk. Dallas is the only team i see that can beat them out west. And I'm not convinced Dallas gets that far.



Exactly. And they do get easy points vs fast break and FT line.

i think Bosh can fuck Perk up. No lie, dude is way bigger than before and he looks comfortable in the post unlike last year. But thats a judgment thing and you might not think not.

But Duncan. How can you say he aint there anymore? His minutes have been managed well, and he is EFFICIENT as ever. The man is playing inspired ball. Just get them in the playoffs, and I think he can carry the team because he looks fresher than he has in the last three seasons.

I'm a rox fan, I hate Manu so much and thus shouldn't say good things about the spurs but c'mon. Duncan is putting up ridiculous numbers for the amount of time he plays and looks great for those 25-30 mins. In the playoffs that will obviously go up, and I think he can hang with the best of them. When Spliter and Manu get back, they will be naaaasty. If Leonard can at least defend Durants punk ass in the post and even half the time on the perimeter, they could take OKC out.
 
Ibaka is a great weakside shot blocker, but he sucks in man defense and gets caught overhelping a lot leading to extra offensive rebounds and passes for layups.

Which is why they find teams like the grizz so hard. Zbo and best-gasol are rebounding monsters. you can't take a body off either on defense, or they'll get the offensive board.
 
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