ah, i know what i missed. i missed a bunch of posts until this quote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35471318&postcount=1181
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Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 confirmed for Nintendo DS
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ah, i know what i missed. i missed a bunch of posts until this quote
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35471318&postcount=1181
are these third versions or sequels?
damn i hope they don't do the GBA remakes and go straight to a proper 3DS one with new monsters.
Supposedly sequels and second games of the trilogy. Though we have no idea what either of that means
Lazy is a bad thing now? For Pokemon, lazy is perfectly fine, and you don't need to have major, enormous changes to the formula for each game. Smaller, more subtle additions and changes are fine for most fans anyway.
So by this logic, Mario should have stayed 2D forever right? Dragon Quest too?
After all, it would have been fine for most fans... But then we would lose something new and incredible.
The Pokemon games are great, because the underlying formula is among the best gaming has to offer. Great world and characters, simple and addictive gameplay, emphasis on multiplayer and collection, surprising depth for those who seek it.
But it has remained relatively the same for over 15 years now, and being apologetic about it is wrong. The series has been on 3D-capable hardware since 2006. It's time to bring up the scale, and bring the online functionality closer to its true (and amazing) potential. This can probably only happen on the 3DS. Make it happen already!
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that I wasn't expecting an announcement. I merely said that the new film poster didn't confirm anything.
Let me find my exact quote for you.
Edit: Here.
Rewritin' dat history.
I look forward to the disappointment after Pokémon Smash ends, then.
I just realised the DS has had 7 mainline Pokemon games + BW2 coming. That makes 9 mainline ones. The DS is a goddamn beast.
Not really, they're sequels. Grey would be the normal third version that just has improvements. This assumingly continues the story.
this is essentially grey (edit: in spirit at least).
Not really, they're sequels. Grey would be the normal third version that just has improvements. This assumingly continues the story.
this is essentially grey (edit: in spirit at least).
Well, it kind of is from the sound of it, I think lol. Sounds like new story, same region kind of stuff. Right?
sorijealut
Member
Cool! Just play it on your ds lite, like a man. It will probably give you a longer play session before you have to charge it up again anyways.
And for lols:
haha...
Yeah, I'm playing this on my lite. I missed its cracked, broken hinges.
God tier trolling.
:bow Nintendo :bow
I don't think Nintendo made the choice.
Supposedly sequels and second games of the trilogy. Though we have no idea what either of that means
where is this trilogy information coming from?
lordfroakie
Member
are these third versions or sequels?
damn i hope they don't do the GBA remakes and go straight to a proper 3DS one with new monsters.
SEQUELS! DO YOU SEE A 2 IN THE TITLE(S)? <.<
where is this trilogy information coming from?
Someone from the announcement thread talked about it. He did say his Japanese isn't perfect so he could have possibly got it wrong.
The Return of
Banned
you do realize majoras mask came out a year before the cube though right? Two different situations.I don't see why people are so outraged. Should Majora's Mask have been a GameCube launch game~?
Diprosalic
Banned
SEQUELS! DO YOU SEE A 2 IN THE TITLE(S)? <.<
means nothing.
the 3DS will be 2 years old by the time this will come out here, who will buy DS games then?
After a couple of persons bathing in their blind hype made snarky remarks in response to my sane comment, they ended up getting on my nerves and I kinda started hoping for their disappointment, yeah.
I'm human, not Amir0x.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't see where it says a trilogy anywhere.
means nothing.
the 3DS will be 2 years old by the time this will come out here, who will buy DS games then?
Pokemon fans?
Vermillion
Banned
There'll have to be a lot of new stuff for me to buy it. I got bored of White, fast. And this DS shit is ridiculous.
Costcosaurus
Banned
They're still making Pokemon games for the DS? Why not skip this project and make the next mainline games on the 3DS?
spindashing
Banned
WILL CHEREN'S AHOGE BE BIGGER?
Black-Wind
Member
Buh?
A quick/easy cash-grab from Nintendo? That's the only reason I can think of.
Pretty much ... also don't hurt that these games are coming out in 3-4 months in JPN.
Highly disappointed ... makes no logical sense for me to buy a brand new DS game in fucking late 2012.
And you know what? If this is anything like the past 3rd games it's likely not gonna be worth getting when we're knees deep into the current gen of handhelds. :/
Ehh, anyway ... back to waiting for GF to catch up with my decent level expectations. Guess that wont happen till gen 6 comes out.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Haha you sure are one to talk.
Wait a second.. didn't they flip the legendaries with the versions?
Now Zekrom is in Black and Reshiram in White
It looks more like they fused somehow
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Wait a second.. didn't they flip the legendaries with the versions?
Now Zekrom is in Black and Reshiram in White
They're the new forms of Kyurem.
Haha you sure are one to talk.
Who the fuck are you again?
Wait a second.. didn't they flip the legendaries with the versions?
Now Zekrom is in Black and Reshiram in White
Oh shit, didn't even notice that.
I know man. But they still clearly take after Zekrom and Reshiram. And Zekrom was the cover for White, while his Kyurem version is the cover for Black.They're the new forms of Kyurem.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
They're not going to change the formula for reasons. Keeping the formula as it is will keep the games accessible while retaining the competitive aspects that keep fans attracted to the series to begin with. Vastly improving the presentation aspect of it, then, isn't much of a big change at all, which isn't what your post really implies. So I take it you're fine with everything else moving forward by small increments, which is already the case with the franchise?So by this logic, Mario should have stayed 2D forever right? Dragon Quest too?
After all, it would have been fine for most fans... But then we would lose something new and incredible.
The Pokemon games are great, because the underlying formula is among the best gaming has to offer. Great world and characters, simple and addictive gameplay, emphasis on multiplayer and collection, surprising depth for those who seek it.
But it has remained relatively the same for over 15 years now, and being apologetic about it is wrong. The series has been on 3D-capable hardware since 2006. It's time to bring up the scale, and bring the online functionality closer to its true (and amazing) potential. This can probably only happen on the 3DS. Make it happen already!
It's one thing to say that I'm making a complacent point and then make a complacent point yourself. Then, both of us look a bit stupid. When Mario changed to 3D, so did the way you played a Mario game. But that hasn't been the case for Pokemon, where any changes to the game design itself have mostly been aesthetic and, if at all related to the internal math and proceedings of battles and raising, relatively-minor.
So, at this point anyway: I feel fine in saying that Game Freak's current direction for the franchise is the best it can take. If I wanted to revolutionize or greatly change the underlying fabric of the average Pokemon game, I'd do it via a spinoff or, at any rate, a fan-game. But the main series is in too good of a position to abandon ship now.
Oh shit, didn't even notice that.
Me neither. That's pretty cool.
Is it safe to say that these games will be prequels story-wise?
Building a massive, open-world, "if you can see it, you can go there" 3d free-roaming game.I can't believe it's going to DS. What the hell have Gamefreak been doing with the 3DS dev kits all this time?
blizzardjesus
Banned
pretty disappointing. would have preferred 3ds and anything other then gen 5 pokemon creatures.
ThatObviousUser
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And you know what? If this is anything like the past 3rd games it's likely not gonna be worth getting when we're knees deep into the current gen of handhelds. :/
They won't be, don't worry. They're sequels, not a repackaged third version.
Milkncooke
Member
Oh shit, didn't even notice that.
Most likely the new Kyurem form depends on which legendary you DON'T capture.
guess i'm switching sides from team black to team white 2.
Whichever has Whimsicott.
Pretty much ... also don't hurt that these games are coming out in 3-4 months in JPN.
Highly disappointed ... makes no logical sense for me to buy a brand new DS game in fucking late 2012.
And you know what? If this is anything like the past 3rd games it's likely not gonna be worth getting when we're knees deep into the current gen of handhelds. :/
Ehh, anyway ... back to waiting for GF to catch up with my decent level expectations. Guess that wont happen till gen 6 comes out.
There engine is not ready yet, there not happy with the results. They need more time, so they keep a seperate team to develop the 3DS engine and concept, while the 1st team is making the 2nd game for the DS, inorder for them to have some profit. At the same time they have access to a huge DS install base, give time for the 3DS install base to build up.
Makes sense
MisterLuffy
Member
Why not grey version or something?
Most likely the new Kyurem form depends on which legendary you DON'T capture.
we're entering weird territory here. mc caught reshiram/zekrom, n has the other one. does that mean mc of bw2 will be catching kyurem?
Mechanized
Member
Er... why doesn't Nintendo want to sell millions of 3DS units?
D
Deleted member 13876
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Most likely the new Kyurem form depends on which legendary you DON'T capture.
Ah, good call.
Nocturnowl
Member
So we need Triple/Rotation battles out the wazoo.
Yes we do, I had like 3 Triple battles max in Black Version, what a waste!
This is going to be the first Pokémon game I get both versions of.
Why?