Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Naruto Shippuden 252

It always amazes me how cool Konan's paper powers look in animated form. Next episode should be absolutely epic considering her
final attack.

I think it was one of my favorites fights in Shippuden, paper is such a cool ninjutsu.
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cajunator

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Why is there such animosity for ANN? I don't really get it.
They are fans of horrible shows, and so are we.
We just have different reasons.
 

cajunator

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I dunno really. They always seemed like a pretty informative site to me. I use ANN alot to look up connections between series, who is singing the OP/ED stuff like that.
 
I dunno really. They always seemed like a pretty informative site to me. I use ANN alot to look up connections between series, who is singing the OP/ED stuff like that.

No one has a problem with the encyclopedia side of it. Its the editorial side that people see as a joke.
 

cajunator

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But that's all just opinions. Opinions never hurt anybody.
Even stupid ones. In fact, I like stupid opinions. I have several in my personal collection.
 
Read or Die does it better.
Did he make a
giant flying paper Crane with a 747 inside
? NO HE FUCKING DIDNT.

First of all, that's a she, and 2nd,
she makes about a billion (not an exaggerated number there, they flat out say a billion) cranes each with an explosive inside and sets them all off on the bad guy at once. He still lives though because he's hax.
 

cajunator

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First of all, that's a she, and 2nd,
she makes about a billion (not an exaggerated number there, they flat out say a billion) cranes each with an explosive inside.

That's decently cool, I guess. I like the Paper sister's style though.
Plus, ROD has Yomiko and Michelle, and Mrs Deep. Thats some powerful hnnng right there.

Come to think of it, I have figures of the Paper Sisters but not of Yomiko. What the fuck is wrong with me? I have to remedy this.
 

Jex

Member
Why is there such animosity for ANN? I don't really get it.
They are fans of horrible shows, and so are we.
We just have different reasons.
I dunno really. They always seemed like a pretty informative site to me. I use ANN alot to look up connections between series, who is singing the OP/ED stuff like that.
ANN is one of the most well known, if not the most well known, websites that specialize in all things relating to anime.

ANN provides a number of services - they stream anime, they provide the news, they have a podcast, they feature features, they have an extensive database and they review titles.

Now, when you're talking about using ANN as a knowledge resource for facts - such as who sung what song for what show that's one thing. Their database contains information that's either true or false. Quite often their information is correct and so their database gets used on a regular basis and few would complain about that.

However, once we step into the territory of subjective opinions things get a little bit more complicated. The quality of their written reviews is all over the place, both in terms of the quality of the written prose and the actual level of the writers critical analysis. Their reviews seem to be on the same level as a hastily dashed off blog-post or forum comment. As some of their reviews are quite literally written by they are watching a movie for the very first time it's not particularly shocking that these reviews would be so shallow.

Now, why is this a problem? Lots of anime blogs have poorly written, shitty reviews, after-all. For better or worse, ANN holds a much higher position than those sites because they are so well known and so, arguably, they can reach and influence a far wider audience than anyone else. As such you might think that they have a duty to provide high quality, thoughtful reviews of anime. If they're one of the most well known, well-read voices in this sphere they could lead the way forward by engendering some interesting and thoughtful ideas into the wider community, rather than acting as a echo-chamber for the internet.
 

cajunator

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It's interesting you guys bring up ANN since this week they're doing a three-part series on "The Anime Economy". Monday was a brief overview of how series get greenlit, produced, and funded, and today is an in-depth look at the DVD markets. Part three on Friday sounds like it will be discussing internet streaming and such.

I do agree their reviews are largely worthless though.

This is the kind of stuff I love ANN for thanks. I will check that out.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Vidro Moyou is so dreamy. :')

Man, Ano Natsu is awesome. I'm actually rewatching episodes right now, haha.
 

Jex

Member
[Chihayafuru 22]

I'm aware that I already discussed this episodes story earlier, but I didn't dedicate any time to discussing the visuals. It may sound a little harsh, but I think it's worth pointing out how visually dull and repetitive the show has become. I've taken a handful of shots which highlight my point. In many ways, these images have become the 'building blocks' of the show's visuals.

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These particular types of shot are so common that they could fit into pretty much any episode in the series and they wouldn't feel out of place. Now, you might argue that karuta is a pretty repetitive game which can only be portrayed in so many ways but I really feel like they're not even trying any more. Every match seems like a combination of these kinds of shots, where as earlier episodes have tried different approaches (top down, camera following underneath the card, camera tracking on hand motion etc). It's not very interesting to look at.
 

Articalys

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New Lupin III TV Anime's Staff, Cast, Title Revealed
A new Lupin III television anime series will air starting in April for the first time in 27 years. The new series, titled Lupin the Third ~Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna (Lupin III ~The Woman Called Fujiko Mine~), will air on NTV starting on April 4 at 1:29 a.m.

Sayo Yamamoto (Michiko to Hatchin) will direct the 13 episode series, which will revolve around the character Fujiko Mine. Redline director Takeshi Koike will serve as animation director and character designer, and AnoHana's Mari Okada will handle the series composition. Kanichi Kurita will play Lupin, Kiyoshi Kobayashi will play Daisuke Jigen, Daisuke Namikawa will play Goemon Ishikawa, Miyuki Sawashiro will play Fujiko Mine, and Kouichi Yamadera will play Inspector Zenigata.
 
[Chihayafuru 22]

I'm aware that I already discussed this episodes story earlier, but I didn't dedicate any time to discussing the visuals. It may sound a little harsh, but I think it's worth pointing out how visually dull and repetitive the show has become. I've taken a handful of shots which highlight my point. In many ways, these images have become the 'building blocks' of the show's visuals.

These particular types of shot are so common that they could fit into pretty much any episode in the series and they wouldn't feel out of place. Now, you might argue that karuta is a pretty repetitive game which can only be portrayed in so many ways but I really feel like they're not even trying any more. Every match seems like a combination of these kinds of shots, where as earlier episodes have tried different approaches (top down, camera following underneath the card, camera tracking on hand motion etc). It's not very interesting to look at.
Yamauchi's episode was pretty interesting visually, but otherwise I do agree the show has fallen into a bit of a rut - and the visual rut mirrors a narrative one. I still enjoy it, but it's disappointing that the level of inspiration the show had early on couldn't be sustained. It was especially noticable in episode 21, which contained a couple flashbacks to earlier episodes that were noticably better looking than everything else.
 

cajunator

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I'm only on episode 13 of Chihayafuru so far, but I haven't tired of the show yet. Maybe it wears thin later on but it hasn't for me up till this point.
I'm enjoying it a lot.
 

Lafiel

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To be fair; I doubt Mari Okada will have as much influence on the overall production as Koike and Yamamoto do.:)
That said, one thing to be concerned about is the "humor" the action and direction should be great, but with Mari Okada writing, I'm concerned the humor of the series will be the silly anime-esque stuff Okada is known for.>:
 

Branduil

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To be fair; I doubt Mari Okada will have as much influence on the overall production as Koike and Yamamoto do.:)
That said, one thing to be concerned about is the "humor" the action and direction should be great, but with Mari Okada writing, I'm concerned the humor of the series will be the silly anime-esque stuff Okada is known for.>:

Hopefully they can restrain her worst tendencies like Ando did, and not just let her run rampant like what happened to BRS TV.
 
I'm only on episode 13 of Chihayafuru so far, but I haven't tired of the show yet. Maybe it wears thin later on but it hasn't for me up till this point.
I'm enjoying it a lot.

It's only after the recap episode that Chihayafuru took a definite dip and hasn't entirely been able to recover its former quality. I would blame this both on the source material, which like so many serialized stories is padding its length out through various techniques (slowing the rate of character drama, keeping Chihaya's karuta skills from advancing), and on the obvious production issues at Madhouse, which dull the impact of both the games and the character moments.
 

cajunator

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It's only after the recap episode that Chihayafuru took a definite dip and hasn't entirely been able to recover its former quality. I would blame this both on the source material, which like so many serialized stories is padding its length out through various techniques (slowing the rate of character drama, keeping Chihaya's karuta skills from advancing), and on the obvious production issues at Madhouse, which dull the impact of both the games and the character moments.

Looks like I've got a good few episodes to go before the dipping point.
I'm pretty interested in the Karuta game after doing a little research on it, althougH I'd suck at it probably.
 

Cwarrior

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Hopefully they can restrain her worst tendencies like Ando did, and not just let her run rampant like what happened to BRS TV.

nah ando aided her in making one of her worst shows yet(iroha),at least in BRS she was allowed to run wild to create one delicious train wreck mmmm.
 

Noirulus

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Lupin Yessss

Okada Whyyyy


I'd like GAF's input on whether Darker than Black is worth watching (I remember disliking the first episode or two way back when, but I dismissed it for something fairly stupid IIRC)
 

Lafiel

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So In Spring 2012 I'll be watching.

Hyouka
Ozuma
Lupin the third
Apollon
Eureka seven AO
Tsuritama
Saint seiya omega

Might check out

AKB0048
Space bros
Zetman
Natsuiro no Kiseki
Jormungand

Going be insane.
 
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