To raise readiness instead of needing to play MP? That would've been a heck of an idea.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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I thought that's what the Reapers are doing when they invade. Why do it with the Collectors and the baby reaper when the big Reapers are doing the same thing?
But how War Assets translate to the 3 choices is not very logical. How having a bigger army has to do anything with fusing organics and synthetics.
Fudgepuppy
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Does anyone know which song plays when you're about to make your decision at the end? The DUN-DUN?
Well I finished it about half an hour ago.
I've never been more crushed and depressed over a video game before. They found a way to make an ending so bad that in minutes they soured the entire series for me.
I loved ME3 as a whole, I really did. Some of you have seen me bashing ME2 and Bioware for months but I really enjoyed this game. The settings were great, the tone of the story was bleak and everything was working out amazing up to the conclusion. They found a way to make me actually care about Ashley and executed a romance that wasn't completely embarrassing.
They brought together everything I did or didn't do in the first 2 games extremely well. They even nailed the London part and as cheesy as all of the speeches and "this is it" moments with all of the squad mates were I really enjoyed them. It felt like we were building up to an amazing finale.
And then Mac Walters remembered how bad of a writer he is. That stretch with the guardian was impossibly horrible, with no good ending and writing that made no sense. I only checked out a few pages of this thread but the xzibit picture I saw copied my feelings on how little sense this shit made perfectly. I would much rather take the ending that was posted somewhere in this thread, the one made by someone on SA or BSN because it should reward all the work I put in to make sure I earned a proper ending to this struggle. Shepard didn't even have to necessarily survive, though that would have been nice to see a proper conclusion with all of the characters (or at least Ashley and maybe Garrus and the other ME1 guys). I just wanted to see the Galaxy go back and start the rebuilding process and appreciate their victory.
Instead everyone's stuck at Earth no matter what and lol who cares. If all of Bioware was a single person I'd want to choke the life out of it right now. I feel like I wasted 5 years.
I've never been more crushed and depressed over a video game before. They found a way to make an ending so bad that in minutes they soured the entire series for me.
I loved ME3 as a whole, I really did. Some of you have seen me bashing ME2 and Bioware for months but I really enjoyed this game. The settings were great, the tone of the story was bleak and everything was working out amazing up to the conclusion. They found a way to make me actually care about Ashley and executed a romance that wasn't completely embarrassing.
They brought together everything I did or didn't do in the first 2 games extremely well. They even nailed the London part and as cheesy as all of the speeches and "this is it" moments with all of the squad mates were I really enjoyed them. It felt like we were building up to an amazing finale.
And then Mac Walters remembered how bad of a writer he is. That stretch with the guardian was impossibly horrible, with no good ending and writing that made no sense. I only checked out a few pages of this thread but the xzibit picture I saw copied my feelings on how little sense this shit made perfectly. I would much rather take the ending that was posted somewhere in this thread, the one made by someone on SA or BSN because it should reward all the work I put in to make sure I earned a proper ending to this struggle. Shepard didn't even have to necessarily survive, though that would have been nice to see a proper conclusion with all of the characters (or at least Ashley and maybe Garrus and the other ME1 guys). I just wanted to see the Galaxy go back and start the rebuilding process and appreciate their victory.
Instead everyone's stuck at Earth no matter what and lol who cares. If all of Bioware was a single person I'd want to choke the life out of it right now. I feel like I wasted 5 years.
Fudgepuppy
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The five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Where's the community on this scale now?
I'm somewhere between bargaining and depression, I think.
I'm somewhere between bargaining and depression, I think.
I'm experiencing 3 right now
A little bit of denial that I just witnessed something that soul crushingly awful.
A LOT of depression after realizing that yes I in fact did just witness it.
Anger at bioware for ruining what could have been a great story. It would have made up for ME2's ending and faults.
Seriously I don't even feel like doing anything or talking to anyone in real life right now. I just want to sleep the disappointment away :lol
A little bit of denial that I just witnessed something that soul crushingly awful.
A LOT of depression after realizing that yes I in fact did just witness it.
Anger at bioware for ruining what could have been a great story. It would have made up for ME2's ending and faults.
Seriously I don't even feel like doing anything or talking to anyone in real life right now. I just want to sleep the disappointment away :lol
Oblivionmancer
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This. Exactly this. I'm absolutely gutted by the way they completely destroyed everything you did in all three games right at the end. Never felt such disappointment. I wish I could just put it out of my mind but it keeps coming back. A whole game series about a galactic society that they destroy in the last 5 minutes no matter what.
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and Now we realize doing both full paragon/renegade through the whole game series....Didn't change a thing
I should post this here too since it's really spoiler heavy.
New trailer (spoiler warning!)
The War Begins
This should have been the launch trailer. So good.
Music: Two Steps From Hell - Love & Loss
New trailer (spoiler warning!)
The War Begins
This should have been the launch trailer. So good.
Music: Two Steps From Hell - Love & Loss
The most funny thing is that they covered their asses pretty well if there is a sequel. The old guy talking to the kid at the end says that some part of the story might be wrong since it happened a long time ago. I guess they will be able to override some decisions you made on this basis? There are way too big decisions here to have all them carry in a sequel. You can completely eradicate the Krogan, Quarians and Geth :lol.
The scary thing is that Joker can now really get intimate with EDI in the synthesis ending since both are now organic/synthetic hybrid. Oh dear...
The scary thing is that Joker can now really get intimate with EDI in the synthesis ending since both are now organic/synthetic hybrid. Oh dear...
Red Blaster
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I think I'm done with those stages, with my acceptance being that I cannot replay the singleplayer campaign fully knowing what it leaves us with at the end. I tried to, with FemShep, but I couldn,t make it past the intro mission.
On that regard, it's an excellent new they added multiplayer after all. That way I can still experience ME3's great gameplay with no qualm about anything else.
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I've got the popcorn
EmCeeGramr
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EatChildren
brace for impact
also i hope that planet has dextro-amino acid food supplies, or garrus and tali are canonically doomed to die from starvation
EatChildren
It will be fun to read when he joins this thread though.
I still can't believe no one on the team found the last 20 mins to be dreadful and nonsensical. As soon as you get wacked by the big red laser the plot goes entirely haywire.
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We need more barrier support ASAP
Foliorum Viridum
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EatChildren should be put on suicide watch I think.
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I expect SWAT teams @ bioware's office
Foliorum Viridum
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Haha. The people who thought it would be so ARTY and DEEP to have that ending should be punched repeatedly, at the very least. Ten lashings in public may suffice.
They did so well with the rest of the story too.
They did so well with the rest of the story too.
Speaking of those 2 walking in on them was maybe my favorite moment of the whole series. I was doing my routine of talking to everyone on the Normandy one last time before hitting the Cerberus base so I was just on my way to talk to Garrus and...first thing I see is him and Tali embracing and then their extremely nervous "uhh hey shepard, we totally weren't doing that" comments. Did not see that coming at all lol
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I thought it was absolutely amazing
If we DO NOT include the ending:
8-9/10
Ending included: 2-3/10
EmCeeGramr
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i've never seen any bioware "thing" have such unanimous agreement on its quality and why it has a lack of quality
which means bioware will respond in interviews by saying "people weren't happy that it wasn't sunshine and rainbows" and then create that narrative in the press
which means bioware will respond in interviews by saying "people weren't happy that it wasn't sunshine and rainbows" and then create that narrative in the press
Foliorum Viridum
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One of them can survive by eating the corpse of the other one. I really doubt much thought was put into it. One second they are wacked by the reapers red beam while on your team and disappear when you wake up, the next one they are on the Normandy on some random jungle even if the Normandy wasn't on earth anymore during the assault.
I was convinced my EDI and Kaidan were desintegrated by the reaper's beam but they are still alive on the magic jungle. Unless the magic jungle is like Urantia or some magic heaven.
Rebel Leader
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Bad taste™
Hey I did... I very much enjoyed it... Untill the assult on TIM's base...
Right before the base....I had a feeling it would turn to shit FTL
EmCeeGramr
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where the hell was joker going anyway
I was going to say that a few days ago but I figured he'd be in here sooner.
To EDI's galactic vagina. Considering you can see her robo vagina on that seXbox every damn minute with that massive camel toe.
Honestly this game would probably be my goty under more normal circumstances. I can't see anything coming out this year that could have the same impact this game was having on me because it's the only one still taking story stuff from 5 years ago.
But the ending was just so bad I'm wondering to myself if it's morally ok to still put it as goty. Basically I'd be ignoring the end and making it goty for everything else it did, but since this is so story heavy I don't think I can do that.
But the ending was just so bad I'm wondering to myself if it's morally ok to still put it as goty. Basically I'd be ignoring the end and making it goty for everything else it did, but since this is so story heavy I don't think I can do that.
Foliorum Viridum
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Oh! I thought you meant you loved the end. Apologies.
I loved everything until after TIM is dead. From there, WOOSH, downhill.
XANDER CAGE
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I have accepted that Bioware's writers churned out a terrible ending.
s/terrible ending/anything since KotOR1.
And you'd be there with me. I knew ME1 was going to be shit. It was boring, with a bunch of filler but playing Dick Shepard made it somewhat worth it. Then it went all downhill fast.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Man, I felt bad reading your impressions of how much you were enjoying the game knowing the ending that awaited you.
As people start to finish the game now, I'm curious as to how or if BioWare reacts to how disappointed many people are with how crummy and pointlessly banal the endings are? Will they own up to them and do a sort of Broken Steel type DLC?
XANDER CAGE
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Oh, don't get me wrong - I saw it coming in ME1. Read my previous posts about DA REAPAS, haha.
He says he was going to help the sword (space fleet) team. He apparently has the magical power to teleport disintegrated squadmates and bring them back to life on the ship.
Foliorum Viridum
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Honestly, it's just 10 minutes. An AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL ten minutes, but so little that I can just try to forget about it and enjoy everything else about it.
Did you feel the same way about DE:HR? I thought the last hour of that game was just as laughably bad, but I blocked it out of my memory and remembered everything else!
Confidence Man
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He was running away from the fight like a little bitch (after swooping down to earth and picking up the squad members Shep took along).
Fudgepuppy
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Thank god, I thought I was alone with feeling like a soulless husk just walking around feeling sad and depressed.
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May the gods have mercy on this JR's soul
These people lacks creativity.
As if we'd be disappointed by only that. As if we'd put it on the same level as MGS4's ending for only that.
I was wary as soon as they introduced the magical crucible. It doesn't get any better when the VI tell you that apparently many races tried to build it adding parts and technology to it but it must be rebuild from scratch everytime. I mean, how did they know what they were doing? Its power is not understood and yet they knew what to build? I mean it connects to the citadel so it's obviously complex to build. How did these races even found it had to be fused with the citadel. The reapers themselves had no idea about it either until the Illusive Man told them :lol
It's like Liara's shock in the temple. She knew all what these artifacts were but never realized they were all depicting protheans. Some protheans expert indeed.
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I know, I found it odd but dismissed them because I rented it from redbox, so I had limited time.
I felt I was near the end when the mission was TIM's base. Then it really sunk in
Kitschkraft
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I haven't played the game yet, probably won't until the summer, but I read those leaked spoilers that came out months ago and I'm reading this thread too, fuck it.
LMAO @ those Tali pictures. Fuck me.
The concept of Dark Energy is very interesting to me, I wish they would have stuck with that.
LMAO @ those Tali pictures. Fuck me.
The concept of Dark Energy is very interesting to me, I wish they would have stuck with that.
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But..but...That would require creative work
darkpaladinmfc
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You didn't think you were near the end when Hackett told you it was the point of no return?
Yeah if ME3 was bad almost from the start and kept going until the end like ME2 did it wouldn't have bothered me much. I'd still be upset with Bioware but going into this game I had 0 hype. I've watched Bioware for 2 years become terrible and I had gotten over ME2 and was over the story.
But ME3 was so great the whole way through that it rekindled my love for the series and gave me those ME1 vibes again. To compare it to a sports analogy, it was like losing the championship on a buzzer beater, it's soul crushing. You had the victory in your grasp and in seconds it's gone. If you were being owned by a 30 point deficit ehhh it doesn't hurt as much. You already accepted you were going to lose.
It's a lot different to me. I love the ME universe whereas Deus Ex is mostly a gameplay series to me. A bad ending in Human Revolution didn't do much to me because it was about playing a real deus ex game again.
Anytime a series ends that I love the world and the story it's always a little sad because the journey that absorbed me is going to end and I know it is. But usually there's an end I can live with even if it's not a great one. I've never experienced such an unsatisfying ending to a series that I loved before as I did with this one.
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