Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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From the critics' reviews:

GameSpot 90 "Whether you possess a storied history with the series or come with a clean slate, Mass Effect 3 expertly entangles you in its universe and inspires you to care about its future."

What fucking future would that be?

They can always have the next game begin 50,000 years year when people are out of the stone age. It will be a clean slate.
 
Another odd thing about the 'ending' for me. I have like zero motivation for a second playthrough or to get any future dlc.

Unless the dlc is a minigame where I drive a space croissant around, wiping out societies... like Space Rampage or something.
 
The biggest problem with the endings is that they completely reboot the universe, fucking up a lot of what Shepard did throughout the game - curing the Genophage, retaking Rannoch, etc. I was honestly expecting an ending somewhat like Dragon Age Origins (and Awakening), describing what happened to the world and each character in the years following the game based on all your choices throughout the the trilogy.
This isn't DAO. We weren't going to get something like cards explaining things to us.
 
From the critics' reviews:

GameSpot 90 "Whether you possess a storied history with the series or come with a clean slate, Mass Effect 3 expertly entangles you in its universe and inspires you to care about its future."

What fucking future would that be?


"Its future" meaning its world, aka the sci-fi future it exists in.
 
Oh man, I love taking Javik around with me.

Javik: You expecting trouble?
Wrex: Who's that?
Shepard: He's a prothean.
Wrex: Sometimes I wonder if the Normandy's a warship or a traveling freak show.
 
Another odd thing about the 'ending' for me. I have like zero motivation for a second playthrough or to get any future dlc.

Same here, I'm not even sure what they could do on the dlc front to pull me in. Something radically like post ending without Shepard could intrigue me but other than that I'm not feeling "building Shepard's legend".
 
I haven't played the game yet,but do they explain why Joker can walk around just fine?
I thought his bones were like glass or something like that
 
The more I think about the ending the more bizarre it seems to me. How could anyone at Bioware have thought it was a good idea. It could be the most vague nonsensical cop-out of an ending I have ever seen. I mean the bit at the very end with the old man and the child just comes out of nowhere. Its not calling back to anything, its not a real bookend. I honestly see paid DLC which elaborates on the ending coming in the future. In fact its probably all been preplanned.
 
The anti-ending thread has now hit 1071 pages with 26,722 responses and 182,170 views.

Heck, the indoctrination theory thread is now at 10,443 posts and 112076 views.
 
Oh man, I love taking Javik around with me.

Javik: You expecting trouble?
Wrex: Who's that?
Shepard: He's a prothean.
Wrex: Sometimes I wonder if the Normandy's a warship or a traveling freak show.

You know what Javik alone might inspire me to do a new play through. The only mission's I brought him along were Thessia on a hunch and the last one.
 
Not going to waste everyones time rehashing the same things, but damn Bioware. Really?

I still can't get over how fucking pointless it is that Joker and crew (who were with my during my assault) took the mass relay to who knows where. I mean, if I remember correctly, wasn't the mass relay in the Sol system out by Pluto? He would've had to grab Tali and Garrus, and the piece the fuck out for absolutely no reason, only to be trapped on a desert island. I suppose I can't wait for Mass Effect 4: Gilligan's Garrus' Island.

I suppose it's better than being stuck in the Sol system with about 5 other species. Going to be pretty hard finding food in a single solar system for "the largest fleet ever gathered" when you can't leave the system.
 
There has been over 10 THOUSAND dollars raised for child's play, to get the ending changed. The donations have not even been up for ONE day. Amazing.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9901463

Nice that money is going to charity, but it will amount to nothing in regards to the ending. It's over, it ended the way it did, and that is never going to change.

The ME3 Relay explosion seems to only contain the crucible energy.

Correct. They're used as nodes to connect the space magic and send out the signal to occupied systems. Under control and synthesis, no systems would be wiped out by a relay.
 
Nice that money is going to charity, but it will amount to nothing in regards to the ending. It's over, it ended the way it did, and that is never going to change.

Idk about that.

Bioware knows there's scores of people out there that want a proper ending, and Bioware is more than willing to make them pay for it.
 
Nice that money is going to charity, but it will amount to nothing in regards to the ending. It's over, it ended the way it did, and that is never going to change.

So what do you say to all the trolling "hints" by the bioware ME twitter feed? That they're just hinting at Omega, etc... DLC, and nothing to do with the ending?
 
Nice that money is going to charity, but it will amount to nothing in regards to the ending. It's over, it ended the way it did, and that is never going to change.

Deep down I know this. So fuck it, I'm playing through again as femshep, get my money's worth, then be done with it.
 
You know what Javik alone might inspire me to do a new play through. The only mission's I brought him along were Thessia on a hunch and the last one.

Same. I stuck with Liara and Garrus for the entire game cos she's mah lover and he's my bro, but it sounds like he'd be interesting to bring along. It also really hurt to see Liara and Garrus dead at the end as a result when you're running to the Citadel :(

Also, the calls for ending DLC are embarrassing. I hate it as much as the next guy, but that just means I'm even more against fucking PAYING for another ending. Not that it will ever happen, but the idea alone is insulting. Some people need to take a step back.
 
So like, the millions of people on the citadel are dead right? If not before the final explosion, then afterward. Then all that shit falls to earth and kills more people. Right?
 
Do the "Mass Effect 3" Mass Relay explosions wipe out the systems?

"Arrival" Mass Relay explosion.
http://youtu.be/nyM_IEpkI2Q?t=8s

"Mass Effect 3" Mass Relay explosion.
http://youtu.be/6AdWqlsQjWo?t=1m53s

The ME3 Relay explosion seems to only contain the crucible energy.

Thinking about it now, the way the game shows you how the relays are blowing up around the galaxy is kind of silly. It is not something that would actually be visible like that. The galaxy map is normally shown in the game takes place in a menu / is showing a digital map in the game's universe.
 
Idk about that.

Bioware knows there's scores of people out there that want a proper ending, and Bioware is more than willing to make them pay for it.

If I were a regular user I'd happily ban bet that BioWare will never remake or retcon the ending in DLC or otherwise. Alterations for future projects? Yes, as expected, but not to the degree people are hoping for. The endings are there, and that is how Shepard's story ends.
 
If I were a regular user I'd happily ban bet that BioWare will never remake or retcon the ending in DLC or otherwise. Alterations for future projects? Yes, as expected, but not to the degree people are hoping for. The endings are there, and that is how Shepard's story ends.

The shepard *
 
The ME3 Relay explosion seems to only contain the crucible energy.

One *could* extrapolate that instead of the energy of the relays focusing in a "small" space, resulting in the destruction of the local system, it's dispersed throughout an large area, including all the nearby systems, as hinted by the galaxy map animation, controlling/converting everything in them without destroying everything (aside from AI's in the red magic ending).

But that should've addressed, as until now the only information about blowing up a relay is "Arrival". I suppose that after hearing "I can convert every single organic life in the galaxy" you don't question anything else...
 
If I were a regular user I'd happily ban bet that BioWare will never remake or retcon the ending in DLC or otherwise. Alterations for future projects? Yes, as expected, but not to the degree people are hoping for. The endings are there, and that is how Shepard's story ends.

I'm just saying, don't underestimate this company's willingness to nickle and dime its consumers however they can. It's a possibly that we could get "true ending" dlc, but I can't see it happening myself either.

The ME3 Relay explosion seems to only contain the crucible energy.

So where does the normal Mass Relay energy go then? how does the crucible's energy completely negate it?
 
So like, the millions of people on the citadel are dead right? If not before the final explosion, then afterward. Then all that shit falls to earth and kills more people. Right?

The reapers captured the citadel so I'm pretty sure most of the people on it were dead before you even go back to earth and maybe I need to watch the endings again but does the catalyst say that the Citadel will be destroyed?
 
Thinking about it now, the way the game shows you how the relays are blowing up around the galaxy is kind of silly. It is not something that would actually be visible like that. The galaxy map normally shown in the game takes place in a menu / is showing a digital map in the game's universe.
It would also take some unknown particle to produce the required effect. I know they did it for show, but light doesn't travel that fast.

Also, the calls for ending DLC are embarrassing. I hate it as much as the next guy, but that just means I'm even more against fucking PAYING for another ending. Not that it will ever happen, but the idea alone is insulting. Some people need to take a step back.
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The reapers captured the citadel so I'm pretty sure most of the people on it were dead before you even go back to earth and maybe I need to watch the endings again but does the catalyst say that the Citadel will be destroyed?

I don't remember the catalyst saying much other than choose your shitty vague slapped together ending :P

But yeah jokes aside I don't remember it saying the Citadel will be destroyed.
 
I don't remember the catalyst saying much other than choose your shitty vague slapped together ending :P

But yeah jokes aside I don't remember it saying the Citadel will be destroyed.
For destroy and synthesis, the Citadel wouldn't be needed, so it would probably explode/disappear like the reapers.
 
So like, the millions of people on the citadel are dead right? If not before the final explosion, then afterward. Then all that shit falls to earth and kills more people. Right?

Yes.

Wasn't Jacob still on the Citadel? And Kolyat I bet, and Ash's sister, and Bailey, and Aria, and the Consort... all dead.
 
Yes.

Wasn't Jacob still on the Citadel? And Kolyat I bet, and Ash's sister, and Bailey, and Aria, and the Consort... all dead.
They should have been named husks you have to pistol on your way to the control room. That would be the garnish on the shitsandwich of an end sequence.
 
If I were a regular user I'd happily ban bet that BioWare will never remake or retcon the ending in DLC or otherwise. Alterations for future projects? Yes, as expected, but not to the degree people are hoping for. The endings are there, and that is how Shepard's story ends.

Then the indoctrination theory is the only way for BSN to survive.

Seriously though, if we assume the ending is final despite the furore, I hope that the deflated feeling left by it doesn't hamper the fans' desire to mod and alter the game. And in regards to the possibility of Bioware retconning the ending: I think it's the only way for them to come out of this situation with "lessened stains" on their reputation.

Yes.

Wasn't Jacob still on the Citadel? And Kolyat I bet, and Ash's sister, and Bailey, and Aria, and the Consort... all dead.

Yup, one of the biggest problems I've had with the game sans-ending. Everything you did on the Citadel and all the refugees are completely wiped out, yet no one on the Normandy or in the alliance care to mention or react to this fact.
 
So where does the normal Mass Relay energy go then? how does the crucible's energy completely negate it?

Space magic *shrug*. Of all things to do with the ending, exploding relays is the least of my problems.

Seriously though, if we assume the ending is final despite the furore, I hope that the deflated feeling left by it doesn't hamper the fans' desire to mod and alter the game.

The Mass Effect games aren't very mod friendly, and people are shit scared to do anything because of Origin and EA's random bans. All I want from the fan community, if it ever happens, are some HQ textures.
 
Idk what happened to my team, they disappeared after the blast, but somehow Liara wound up on the Normandy in fruity jungle space land after the DNA rape.

So who knows, maybe Garrus survived ;_;

Space magic *shrug*. Of all things to do with the ending, exploding relays is the least of my problems.

Well obv it's far from being the worst of it.
 
Mass Effect 3: All My Friends Are Dead™
More like you're already indoctrinated dead.
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(Besides the fact that you already died once.)

Seriously though, if we assume the ending is final despite the furore, I hope that the deflated feeling left by it doesn't hamper the fans' desire to mod and alter the game.
I don't think that would be an issue. People seem to love to MOD games, however ME's code has always been a pain to work with I think.
 
edit: ^^^ That is glorious.

Bioware probably had Dyack syndrome. So disillusioned that they thought their ending was the best thing ever to grace video gaming.

I would be willing to bet money that Bioware's writing staff doesn't have a good editor, because any editor worth their salt wouldn't have let this shit slide.
 
I don't remember the catalyst saying much other than choose your shitty vague slapped together ending :P

But yeah jokes aside I don't remember it saying the Citadel will be destroyed.

Ultimately just like almost everything in the ending there's no real answer to the question. Everybody is going to have a different understanding of what happened. I feel the Citadel is gone and so are all the Relays. Depending on your EMS and the ending you pick I guess dictates if the relays were simply destroyed or they exploded killing everything in the system.
 
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