Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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I just realized that technically all the endings are the same, though

1) shep might die
2) human life can be destroyed or indoctrinated

You get:

1) beam of light
2) no more reapers
3) normandy crashing and Joker surviving on jungle planet


So if there is a ME4 (lol) and it's a sequel not a prequel as some have assumed, then they won't need to do a "Dragon Break" moment.

You'll just start off maybe a few hundred years later after having found space travel...dozens of planets have had to start up from a post-apocalyptic scratch (and no tech), the Reapers have never been seen again, and Shep is rumored to have died but maybe didn't.
 
Has any other video game ever generated this much backlash before? I know MGS4 wasn't received well but I don't recall it getting this much negative attention.
 
I guess since Shepard lives after that one that's the one they consider the best, yeah.

Which is pretty shitty.

Hey guys, there's an ending where Shepard lives! Oh, and you kill the Geth. That happens, too.

Considering they have said that this is the end of Shepards story, I don't see how they would think of that as the best ending.
 
Has any other video game ever generated this much backlash before? I know MGS4 wasn't received well but I don't recall it getting this much negative attention.

Final Fantasy XIII-2 got many fans pissed off when they found out how the ending turns out. They are not as pissed off though because the game clearly said "To be continued".
 
Has any other video game ever generated this much backlash before? I know MGS4 wasn't received well but I don't recall it getting this much negative attention.

Not that I can remember. Uncharted 3 launched with a lot of backlash because of the broken controls, but Naughty Dog not only responded t the issue in a few days, but patched in up in two weeks. This is one of a few times that EVERYONE seems to be in agreement that the ending was terrible.
 
No, DA2 was expected to be pretty bad, shit mountain and all.
While expected, the backlash was also there.

This is just funny.

A BioWare employee was caught posing as a consumer on the review site Metacritic. The employee, Chris Hoban, who posted under the name of Avanost gave a score of 10/10 saying "Anything negative you will see about this game is an overreaction of personal preference." A representative for EA responded after much online controversy saying "Of course the people who make the game vote for their own game. That's how it works in the Oscars, that's how it works in the Grammys and why I'm betting that Barack Obama voted for himself in the last election", though it is unclear if Hoban acted on his own behest or on that of the company.

In any case, I'm grateful that DA2 lowered the bar enough for ME3 to not affect me in any way.


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Has any other video game ever generated this much backlash before? I know MGS4 wasn't received well but I don't recall it getting this much negative attention.

MGS4 was GOTY. Hardly criticized for its ending.

I can't think of anything that fans unified their hate upon. It isn't even Bipolar since it's so one sided.
 
So with such unprecedented outcry from fans, do you guys think there is a legitimate chance of Bioware addressing or adding another ending?
 
So with such unprecedented outcry from fans, do you guys think there is a legitimate chance of Bioware addressing or adding another ending?

I would say no chance of Bioware addressing anything.

Another ending being made would not be the result of this outcry. It would have been in the pipeline already.
 
The way the fans are reacting, the way some of the press is picking up on this, and the entire consensus on the whole thing pretty much forces Bioware to alter the ending, if they want to retain their brand loyalty.

Come on.

Really?

The way some people are talking about this it's like you experienced the worst five minutes of your life.
 
So with such unprecedented outcry from fans, do you guys think there is a legitimate chance of Bioware addressing or adding another ending?

There are some arguments for at least meeting the outcry in some ways (guess-work on my behalf):

  1. Sales of future DLC: If they don't rectify the ending, fans might not be inclined to spend money on DLC
  2. Brand loyalty: The brand is tarnished by their earlier statements about the ending, and potential sales of future games might be lower due to mistrust.

Other than that, you might as well expect a PR statement talking about misaligned expectations. Bioware might just choose to ride out the storm.
 
Come on.

Really?

The way some people are talking about this it's like you experienced the worst five minutes of your life.

To use an analogy from the previous page:

Imagine that Frodo got rid of the ring and is now lying there with Sam when a giant eagle picks him up and carries him into magic elf land where he is told by a tiny midget elf that he was the master behind Sauron and now Frodo has to make a choice between killing all the orcs and other such magical beings which would include elves, controlling them and becoming the new lord of dark shit or making everyone half-orc-elf-human-hobbit-dwarfs. Then you see a cutscene where green clouds explode from Mordor and there's a clip of everyone growing elf-ears.

Not saying it's the worst 5 minutes of my life, but it is a pretty terrible way to end a 5-year experience with 90+ hours of investment.
 
I guess since Shepard lives after that one that's the one they consider the best, yeah.

Which is pretty shitty.

Hey guys, there's an ending where Shepard lives! Oh, and you kill the Geth. That happens, too.
WOULD U KILL 10 BILLION

TO SAVE 20 BRO?

dat foreshadowing
 
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oh wow really? I'll listen to her next playthrough...after I hear what bioware's stance on the ending is. It's basically killed any interest in replaying the game for the moment :/
I got that feeling right after I beat the game and I have a large number of old import saves ready.

No more relays is a good thing for the Mass Effect universe. They spent a lot of time stating how the relays were a form of control.

but they're going to get rebuilt thanks to liara's little black box
she will undo all of sheppard's hard work
posthumous space divorce please
 
You know what? THIS is how you petition someone.

I think the reason is [redacted] but I love the fact that they are motivated enough to donate to a great cause while also showing their resolve to Bioware.

As much as I hate the notion of people kickstarting a project for a well funding EA studio, money does speak. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
 
I got that feeling right after I beat the game and I have a large number of old import saves ready.

No more relays is a good thing for the Mass Effect universe. They spent a lot of time stating how the relays were a form of control.

but they're going to get rebuilt thanks to liara's little black box
she will undo all of sheppard's hard work
posthumous space divorce please

Nobody knows how to make relays. Yes the conduit on Illos was one the Protheans made, but that stuff is gone and so is Vigil unless somebody stumbles across another VI who had a relation to that project relays won't exist for a very long time.
 
As much as I hate the notion of people kickstarting a project for a well funding EA studio, money does speak. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Oh, no. A protest where the money goes into bioware coffers (like a kickstarter campaign) would be a shame, IMO

I love the fact that they are protesting with their dollars that, instead of going to the developer, are going to a charitable cause like Child's Play.
 
lol @ the Watchmen comic.

As much as I hate the notion of people kickstarting a project for a well funding EA studio, money does speak. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

This isn't funding an EA studio; it is entirely directed at charity (Child's Play).
 
wait

wouldnt a mass relay detonating result in a massive explosion that would wipe out several planets like it did in arrival

how is anyone gonna be alive after that
 
Oh, no. A protest where the money goes into bioware coffers (like a kickstarter campaign) would be a shame, IMO

I love the fact that they are protesting with their dollars that, instead of going to the developer, are going to a charitable cause like Child's Play.

Lol, my mistake. I just assumed people were trying a kickstart. This is much better.
 
wait

wouldnt a mass relay detonating result in a massive explosion that would wipe out several planets like it did in arrival

how is anyone gonna be alive after that

Congratulations. You have now put more thought into the ending than Bioware.
 
wait

wouldnt a mass relay detonating result in a massive explosion that would wipe out several planets like it did in arrival

how is anyone gonna be alive after that
That just another one of those considerations that BioWare neglected.
 
wait

wouldnt a mass relay detonating result in a massive explosion that would wipe out several planets like it did in arrival

how is anyone gonna be alive after that

We know the prevailing opinions are either exactly that happened or the relays were shutdown in such a way that did not happen.
 
The Normandy part of the ending is the worst, since it doesn't make sense regardless of the indoctrination theory.

If you take into consideration the cut Harbinger battle it makes a little more sense. That gives Joker an opportunity to pick up the crew and if you assume that EDI probably detected the space magic telling Joker to escape its not so crazy.

That's a lot of assumptions based on a scenario that got cut from the, but its the only way I could logic it out.
 
I got that feeling right after I beat the game and I have a large number of old import saves ready.

No more relays is a good thing for the Mass Effect universe. They spent a lot of time stating how the relays were a form of control.

but they're going to get rebuilt thanks to liara's little black box
she will undo all of sheppard's hard work
posthumous space divorce please
I don't mind the final choices as much as I mind that there's literally no difference in the endings depending on what you did over the course of 3 games.
 
The Normandy part of the ending is the worst, since it doesn't make sense regardless of the indoctrination theory.
Fixed.


I think Smudboy pointed out that Arrival is already a retcon because the ME1 codex talked about the relays being impenetrable so in reality, it is a retcon of a retcon.
Really? I think it was mentioned that no one had tried to explode them because of the repercussions, not that they were impenetrable.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_relay


I just noticed someone added the Crucible section. I like how they don't cite that it doesn't destroy the surrounding systems.
 
The Normandy part of the ending is the worst, since it doesn't make sense regardless of the indoctrination theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjWlb-99ZHs&ob=av3n

This is the worst ending you can get. For this, the blast provided from the destroy option, destroys everything including earth and all the space junk (19:28). Normandy is speeding off to evade that explosion.

They simply applied the scene of the normandy running off, to every ending. And as you know, the blast isn't that damaging in all the endings.
 
The biggest problem with the endings is that they completely reboot the universe, fucking up a lot of what Shepard did throughout the game - curing the Genophage, retaking Rannoch, etc. I was honestly expecting an ending somewhat like Dragon Age Origins (and Awakening), describing what happened to the world and each character in the years following the game based on all your choices throughout the the trilogy.
 
That's just it: we don't know if that happened or not.

We don't know if what happened?

If the relays detonated, then common sense would dictate that they wiped out a lot of planets/colonies in each system if the Arrival is anything to go by.


I mean, they went up in huge explosions
 
You know I totally did not notice the shot of the Reapers leaving earth in the "Control" ending the first time.

What is that portal/blackhole behind the Normandy during the jump?
 
The biggest problem with the endings is that they completely reboot the universe, fucking up a lot of what Shepard did throughout the game - curing the Genophage, retaking Rannoch, etc. I was honestly expecting an ending somewhat like Dragon Age Origins (and Awakening), describing what happened to the world and each character in the years following the game based on all your choices throughout the the trilogy.
That's a big issue, but not bigger than SPACE MAGIC.

Which color did you choose?
 
We don't know if what happened?

If the relays detonated, then common sense would dictate that they wiped out a lot of planets/colonies in each system if the Arrival is anything to go by.


I mean, they went up in huge explosions

I got the impression that the energy was converted to perform whatever outcome you picked. The outcome was different in Arrival because all that energy wasn't going to be converted into anything but heat. Obviously its a plot hole though and it should be made cleared.
 
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