Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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I'm still dumbfounded about how one can blow a great story that much in the last 5 minutes.
Up until that point it was an amazing battle, with a sense of urgency and desperation like I never felt in a video game. And right at the moment which should have been the final turning point, the final comeback, the game derails into utter nonsense wtf territory.

This ending is literally a trainwreck.
The story suddenly derailed and crashed in the most unbelievable fashion.

Except here this is not the typical neogaf hype train. Inside this train is the coherence of the story, followed by the emotional and intellectual engagement of the player. Brutally crashed at the last minute before the final stop.
2 days after the fact, the crushing shock doesn't go away. Why destroy such a great, emotionally engaging game.

And whether the ending is "happy" or not is not AT ALL a factor here.
 
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Is it wrong of me to sit here and ponder stuff like: Why didn't my Infiltrator Shepard just use Tactical Cloak and quietly sneak through the Conduit?
 
GrandHarrier said:
Is it wrong of me to sit here and ponder stuff like: Why didn't my Infiltrator Shepard just use Tactical Cloak and quietly sneak through the Conduit?
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No, I wondered entirely too often why Shepard didn't just charge in cutscenes. Would've helped avert that Kai Lang bullshit.
 
about the indoctrination/hallucination idea: How does it explain Joker and the crewmates stranding on an uncharted planet? Was that a hallucination too?

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And that 4chan pic: I don't believe that. In this industry leaks are nothing new (remember when people got early access to the Mass Effect 3 demo on X360?) - you can't change or stop that. I don't think they changed the ending last minute just to show the people that the original leaked ending (i guess it is the one with the dark energy) is not true.
 
Salih said:
about the indoctrination/hallucination idea: How does it explain Joker and the crewmates stranding on an uncharted planet? Was that a hallucination too?
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Frankly, nothing explains Joker and the crewmates (who were with Shepard, even) stranding on an uncharted planet. So I can see their point.
 
DSix said:
I'm still dumbfounded about how one can blow a great story that much in the last 5 minutes.
Up until that point it was an amazing battle, with a sense of urgency and desperation like I never felt in a video game. And right at the moment which should have been the final turning point, the final comeback, the games derail into utter nonsense wtf territory.

This ending is literally a trainwreck.
The story suddenly derailed and crashed in the most unbelievable fashion.

Except here this is not the typical neogaf hype train. Inside this train is the coherence of the story, followed by the emotional and intellectual engagement of the player. Brutally crashed at the last minute before the final stop.
2 days after the fact, the crushing shock doesn't go away. Why destroy such a great, emotionally engaging game.

And whether the ending is "happy" or not is not AT ALL a factor here.
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This is very well said, man. Days later, I too am also in the shock and denial stage. I still won't accept it.

I expected a massive FTL burst of every fucking fleet in the galaxy, yes I did get that, but then I expected them to start blowing Reaper ass out of the sky. What the hell happened? Where the fuck was my Krogan army, where's my fucking Asari badasses holding the line with biotic shields, where's my Rachni overwhelming Reaper husks? Where's my every damn thing I put together?!

Oh wait, I see Shepard running towards somekind of gravlift...ok, cool, um wait....now everyone is dead.......wait, why is Shepard on LSD now? Did I just eject the ME3 disc and stick in 2001: Space Odyssey by mistake...? Who the fuck are you little ghost boy?

Wait my mind is overloading from complete bullshi-----YOU HAVE FAILED US. RELEASING CONTROL.
 
Zeal said:
This is very well said, man. Days later, I too am also in the shock and denial stage. I still won't accept it.

I expected a massive FTL burst of every fucking fleet in the galaxy, yes I did get that, but then I expected them to start blowing Reaper ass out of the sky. What the hell happened? Where the fuck was my Krogan army, where's my fucking Asari badasses holding the line with biotic shields, where's my Rachni overwhelming Reaper husks? Where's my every damn thing I put together?!

Oh wait, I see Shepard running towards somekind of gravlift...ok, cool, um wait....now everyone is dead.......wait, why is Shepard on LSD now? Did I just eject the ME3 disc and stick in 2001: Space Odyssey by mistake...? Who the fuck are you little ghost boy?

Wait my mind is overloading from complete bullshi-----YOU HAVE FAILED US. RELEASING CONTROL.
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Watch that Fleet battle again. You actually do some pretty significant damage to the Reapers, even the Sovereign class ones. You are seriously fucking Reaper shit up. It's just that you can't win a conventional war against them. And on the ground the fact that Hammer SQUAD was able to push forward at all tells you how badasses they were.
 
User: Why the mystery?
@masseffect: I don't kill flies but I like to mess with their minds. I hold them above globes. They freak out and yell, 'Whoa, I'm way too high!'
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User: Why such a short ending?
@masseffect: Management told us we could either have a long penis or a long ending. We went for dick
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Let´s play the Bioware twitter game :D
 
how fucking good is leaving earth on the ost btw

so good

almost made me forget how shitty the ending was while it played during the credits
 
Mass Effect 3 developer BioWare has responded for the first time to fans furious at the game's ending.
Director and executive producer Casey Hudson explained that a "polarising" finale was necessary to get fans talking.
Meanwhile a fan petition to change the game's endings has already raised over $28,000 (about £18,000) for charity.
The Retake Mass Effect fan campaign has been appealing for funds to get the movement taken seriously by BioWare; money which it will then donate to gaming charity Child's Play.
"We would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled," the campaign's mission statement reads. "We simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love."
But Hudson failed to suggest that the trilogy's finale may be changed through a patch or DLC, as Retake Mass Effect campaigners hope.
"I didn't want the game to be forgettable," Hudson told Digital Trends. "Even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in."
"That to me is part of what's exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it's a story that people can talk about after the fact."
More single-player content is coming however, and Hudson said that, like other Mass Effect DLC, fan feedback will help shape its design.
"We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air and their feedback will become part of how we design that," Hudson added.
BioWare also hopes fans are starting to see "common sense" over the controversial day-one DLC pack From Ashes, which includes a major slice of series lore.
"I think a lot of the common sense is prevailing," Hudson said. "Initially, it was spun in a direction that suggested that we had taken the lore out of Mass Effect 3 and were holding it inside the DLC only, which now the people who actually have played Mass Effect 3 and the DLC they know that that's not true. So that fear was set aside and, ultimately, I think people get it now."
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Casey Hudson... *sigh*
 
If only he realized that the conversation is about whether or not Bioware sucks at story telling or Bioware is a bunch of money grubbing pricks. And when I say Bioware, I mean the 2 pricks who came up with this ending.
 
To me, "polarizing" implies that about half love it, and about half hate it, and that there's genuine debate or at least discussions in regards to its content, and why it's good or bad.

It's not polarizing at all. Everyone hates it for fuck's sake!
 
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god its wonderful

an end once and for all is really nice too

but man they nailed the sound design for the reapers

every time it was awesome. never got bored of it

dragon age 2's ending was literally better than me3's

at least it tried (poorly) to make the lack of impact of the player's agency feel like a thematic choice intentionally made by the writers instead of just being lazy cunts
 
"my little Timmy's grades aren't bad, they're just polarizing"

The only polar opposites in this "debate" are bioware against their whole player base.
 
Well there goes what little hope I had of them ever trying to make the ending make sense. Saying we wanted to be different does not explain your piss poor ending. I would have been happy with a stupid letter in the iOS app that helped things make sense.

BioWare also hopes fans are starting to see "common sense" over the controversial day-one DLC pack From Ashes, which includes a major slice of series lore.
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I don't know if Javik was originally planned to be part of the main game or not, but after playing the game he definitely should have been. Making him DLC regardless of why he is DLC was a poor decision.
 
Tess3ract said:
Did you guys read this yet?

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

It goes and explains EXACTLY why the ending sucks. It's a very good article!
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Nice to see someone that actually understands the frustration that most players have with the ending and not like other sites that just tell fans they are wrong and to get over it.

Last Hearth said:
DLC with extended ending pretty much confirmed.


You know that iOS app that sends you updates and texts from the games' characters as you proceed throughout the game.

You get sent this message from you LI after you beat it.

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Metroidvania said:
Hope/Trolling springs eternal, thanks to 4chan.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mas...EDICULOUS-claimbutif-trueHope--9919883-1.html

It'd be awesome if by the longest of long shots it was true, but I doubt Bioware's thought any DLC of this magnitude that far out and yet had not expected any backlash without an explanation of some sort of the current ending.

On another note, donations for childplay are up to 28k.

edit: Check this shit out. Someone posted it a long while back, and I just got around to listening to it. Def worth a listen, imo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h8_F-_a6ko
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And when I was finally moving onto the acceptance stage, someone finds a way to make me hope, even if it will turn out to be bs in the end.
 
I just hope that, if Bioware insists on its position that the ending is fine, that people will talk with their wallet and simply refuse to buy their next game.
 
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