TheGreatMightyPoo
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I read that post in Broussard's voice:[
2012 NBA Mar |OT| Knicks fans now drinking JD in straight shots
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I read that post in Broussard's voice:[
This. Players have been taking shots at Melo. Even JR takes shot at him. That's what the whole, "I prefer playing with the second unit thing," was about. And Melo didn't want the Knicks to sign JR.
Whenever I try to do the Broussard voice in my head, it ends up sounding like this guy:
AgentChris
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I love that quote by Amare: All of us, every single player, has to buy into it, and give the coach a chance for his strategy to work," If we dont, then see what happens.
Goodbye Carmelo Marbury fuck
jordan0386
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lmao^^
LegendofJoe
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If Howard is going to become a Knick what are you going to do with Tyson Chandler? Joe Johnson would be a much better fit.
Wow. This post would actually get you on a fed radar.
Edit: it'll be fun watching carmelo leave and the knicks still don't make the playoffs though.
Knick for life son!
ThisWreckage
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Pringles is not the problem. He's not Greg Popovich, but most of the Knicks' problems stem from roster problems. Denver was the perfect place for Carmelo because it's obvious that Carmelo can't play with a second option. Or even a third option. He has to be THE blackhole.
iamshadowlark
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When he still refuses to commit? No.
jordan0386
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He wasnt a blackhole. They were a better defensive team than they were given credit for.
Look back at his Denver teams. Those were well built squads. And even when Allen was there, all he did was replace Andre Miller.
He had it really good out there. But im not a fan of Ty lawsons size. Pause.
ThisWreckage
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He was given carte blanche to jack up whatever shot he wanted to out there.
jordan0386
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He avg'd good points on good percentages. He wasnt exactly Iverson '01.
CoffeeJanitor
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Sloan would fuck shit up
ThisWreckage
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Sloan would not be a good fit. Every team Sloan ever coached had a great PG.
jordan0386
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No way phil comes out of retirement to coach the knicks after he's coached mj and kobe. Maybe if the contract was fat enough to ignore their mediocrity.
The story is about Sloan not Phil.
I do. Have fun losing to the Heat for the next 5 years.
Rose will be gassed in 2, tops.
He's far from being the solution also.
Yes but I doubt the nuggets would have done that deal straight up the package from the knicks was way better.
jordan0386
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Brian Mahoney ‏ @briancmahoney
Carmelo also says he's "tired of anonymous sources." With him on that one.
Marc Berman ‏ @NYPost_Berman
Melo said got supportive texts from teammates this morning telling him they don't want him to go.
Ian Begley ‏ @IanBegley
Speaking after Wednesday's shoot around, #Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni says he believes that he has the full support of the locker room.
Bruce Beck ‏ @BruceBeck4NY
@carmeloanthony "I have no prob with Mike D'Antoni - relationship is good - I don't know where these trade rumors came from." #Knicks
Carmelo also says he's "tired of anonymous sources." With him on that one.
Marc Berman ‏ @NYPost_Berman
Melo said got supportive texts from teammates this morning telling him they don't want him to go.
Ian Begley ‏ @IanBegley
Speaking after Wednesday's shoot around, #Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni says he believes that he has the full support of the locker room.
Bruce Beck ‏ @BruceBeck4NY
@carmeloanthony "I have no prob with Mike D'Antoni - relationship is good - I don't know where these trade rumors came from." #Knicks
Damn thats too bad.
AgentChris
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jordan0386
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ClovingWestbrook
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WTF mang, how long has it been in trying to give Pringles system a chance to work. Seriously, the Knicks have to be the most incompetent franchise. The Knicks are the new old Clippers.
ClovingWestbrook
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damn. haha.
Dmncnby2k9
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Knicks just miss Jared Jeffries.
jordan0386
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The system works. Lin, Novak, Jeffries proved it to be so.
jordan0386
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In a nutshell. Nobody else is willing to take a charge. I almost passed the fuck out when Amare took one last game.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Hoopsworld lolo said:
I'd probably trade Beasley for Richardson.
ClovingWestbrook
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In terms of actually you know, winning a chip, no. It's never proven to work. And it never will because Pringles despises defense. The Knicks knew what they were getting when they hired him. Whenever the Knicks have been successful its been due to hard work, gritty and defensive ball. The Knicks enjoy a hardworking blue collar type of player. Not a 'pretty system' coach and definitely not a jump shooting primadonna like Melol.
CoffeeJanitor
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Phil only coaches stacked contenders, and runs when things start to end.
NYK =! stacked contenders
jordan0386
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Mike has never had the best player in a conf. final series. All his teams have had success. He's helped slap around Kobe for a few seasons, for gods sake. Dont knock the dude for shit out of his control. Dirk came up big and Tim came up big.
Trust me, I understand real Knicks ball. But that was the 90s. We all have to let it go.
CoffeeJanitor
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JRich is a bit over the hill isn't he?
Also, wtf @ the fact that he is a 55% FT shooter this year
Who would be more likely to stay after the season, Howard or Deron Wlliams?
It's crazy that a max contract on a broken horse like Amare isn't one of their two biggest problems right now. I even think Linsanity is a bad thing at this point for them. If the Knicks even considered trading him - instant backlash. Melo is on the hot seat far sooner than he would have been because of it also. Not that it isn't warranted, but it's simply high tension in NY with very little wiggle room. I don't even blame Anthony for requesting out if it's true. He doesn't fit the system. The scrutiny is too immediate and high-pressured to be productive, when trying to figure out the system and the team has no direction. More importantly they have no direction for him.
In a fantasy world, I would fix the Knicks like this: Melo for Deron. In a heartbeat. Yeah, it's redundant with Lin, but here's a guy who's track record says he improves his teams. Lin can ride the bench. I think Howard is unrealistic and DWill is more likely to stay if the rest of this year is a success.
I don't think a mistake prone, false messiah is their answer. He's a kid who had some success in D'antoni's system (and only D'antoni's system) and is sharply coming back to earth. Talented, but a development project, not a hero trotting in on a horse. New York can't have it both ways, do you want to win now (seems like they do) or live in Lin fantasy world? So long to the Baron, Lin to a backup role, Melo headache eliminated, DWill lays the blueprint for future success. Lin could always step in if DWill leaves in the offseason, and that money could go elsewhere.
Coaching change isn't fixing shit, you need to admit failure and change up your core. Now you improve your defense at the point and SF position, as well as add an All-Star talent known for team play that can produce anyway you need him to.
Nets meanwhile weren't getting back Deron unless Howard was heading there in the summer. Which is a possibility, and the only reason I can imagine keeping Deron. Otherwise the dudes bolting. Carmelo wants to be there and is already signed for three years, not a bad piece to hold on to if you're the Nets.
Anytime you can have half of the 2005 Suns for two max contracts, you have to do it.
It's crazy that a max contract on a broken horse like Amare isn't one of their two biggest problems right now. I even think Linsanity is a bad thing at this point for them. If the Knicks even considered trading him - instant backlash. Melo is on the hot seat far sooner than he would have been because of it also. Not that it isn't warranted, but it's simply high tension in NY with very little wiggle room. I don't even blame Anthony for requesting out if it's true. He doesn't fit the system. The scrutiny is too immediate and high-pressured to be productive, when trying to figure out the system and the team has no direction. More importantly they have no direction for him.
In a fantasy world, I would fix the Knicks like this: Melo for Deron. In a heartbeat. Yeah, it's redundant with Lin, but here's a guy who's track record says he improves his teams. Lin can ride the bench. I think Howard is unrealistic and DWill is more likely to stay if the rest of this year is a success.
I don't think a mistake prone, false messiah is their answer. He's a kid who had some success in D'antoni's system (and only D'antoni's system) and is sharply coming back to earth. Talented, but a development project, not a hero trotting in on a horse. New York can't have it both ways, do you want to win now (seems like they do) or live in Lin fantasy world? So long to the Baron, Lin to a backup role, Melo headache eliminated, DWill lays the blueprint for future success. Lin could always step in if DWill leaves in the offseason, and that money could go elsewhere.
Coaching change isn't fixing shit, you need to admit failure and change up your core. Now you improve your defense at the point and SF position, as well as add an All-Star talent known for team play that can produce anyway you need him to.
Nets meanwhile weren't getting back Deron unless Howard was heading there in the summer. Which is a possibility, and the only reason I can imagine keeping Deron. Otherwise the dudes bolting. Carmelo wants to be there and is already signed for three years, not a bad piece to hold on to if you're the Nets.
Anytime you can have half of the 2005 Suns for two max contracts, you have to do it.
captmcblack
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This whole thing is such a clusterfuck.
I don't even know what to think. If Melo is the problem, he's gotta be traded - but what can we trade him for? Dwight Howard is pretty much impossible, even if we offered Melo and Chandler to Orlando. Trading Melo also means that we have to be sticking w/D'antoni and a diminished STAT...and I don't think that's the way to go either.
Goddamn, it really *is* as if we're the Mets of the NBA.
*suicides*
I don't even know what to think. If Melo is the problem, he's gotta be traded - but what can we trade him for? Dwight Howard is pretty much impossible, even if we offered Melo and Chandler to Orlando. Trading Melo also means that we have to be sticking w/D'antoni and a diminished STAT...and I don't think that's the way to go either.
Goddamn, it really *is* as if we're the Mets of the NBA.
*suicides*
Rodeo Clown
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He's having a bit of a down year, but he was putting up 19 a game last year with the Suns. I think he can still play. Contract isn't terrible, either (3 years, 18M).
Also important to consider what the Wolves' other options are now and what their options would be this summer. The rumors have been Crawford, CJ Miles (yuck), and now Richardson. This summer, all the decent wings will be RFAs and not realistically attainable (Courtney Lee, etc).
So if the Wolves could swing a deal for JRich, I would probably do it.
ThisWreckage
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No one played defense on the Suns. Tyson Chandler, Shumpert, and several other players on the Knicks are at the very least good defensive players and maybe even great ones.
ClovingWestbrook
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Mike did have the best PG for years and was never able to get out of the conference,sorry. Defense wins championships. Mike's teams don't play defense. He doesn't care about defense. He'll never get to the promised land, at least as a head coach. He'd be great as the offensive coach but a head coach? No. Knicks need to blow it up.
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