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[soundscream]

Atleast they never lost 6 games in a row? or did they?

Jan 12 - 21

6 in a row

 

[Reave]

Orlando should have just taken the Bynum or Brook+Brooks deal and started rebuilding already.

After hearing that "roll the dice" tangent last night, I completely agree.

 

[darkside31337]

Besides, in a few years they'll land the #1 pick again and draft the next once-in-a-generation center and watch him walk away, too. At least Dwight was in Orlando longer than his rookie contract.

Yep.

You can choose to go the Nuggets route, trade your superstar for young pieces and hope for the best but probably stuck in a land of mediocrity.

I'd prefer the Cavs route. Blow it up. Tank. Tank so hard. And pray to the ping pong ball gods.

And theres no reason to not go for it this year. I don't buy the bullshit of inevitability of a Heat - Bulls ECF.

 

[Red Blaster]

This Beasley for J. Richardson talk concerns me more than the D12 drama. I'd rather have JJ Redick in the starting five and all, but I don't know if Beasley is going to help matters.

Well... at least he'll produce more than Big Baby. Ugh, more shades of grey than Mass Effect 3.

J-Rich's contract will get more poisonous as the years go by, Beasley expires next year.

 

[charsace]

Ughh.....slow?


Lakers and Dallas have two of the oldest/slowest PGs in the league and didn't prepare for Lin at all, so it was up to Fisher and Kidd to play one on one well enough to contain a guy who was a giant question mark and a whole lot faster than them.

Lin isn't doing well anymore because he was completely unknown and not respected by other teams. They know now that he can only drive with one hand now. He needs to work on his left hand and get better at figuring out when to take a shot going to the hole and when to pass out and reset. He takes lots of dumb point blank shots instead of dishing out.

Lakers tried to play him one on one and crowd the paint. Dallas put Marion on him, trapped him, and tried to force him left and he still got back to his right hand. Lin, like any guard that is worth anything, can't be kept from going to their strong hand if they want to go to their strong hand. Today's rules make it this way and that's the reason why the pg position is so deep now. Because pg are usually the best ball handlers and quickest guys on the court. The only way you can stop a good pg from getting into the lane is by packing it with bodies or forcing him to pass the ball, which is where trapping comes into play. So no, the scouts and coaches that get paid millions by teams were prepared for him after he went off in the NJ game. What's slowed him down(and other guys) is Carmelo's return.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

If they are keeping dwight (lol at the idea of him staying) anyone who can create a shot is valuable to them even a psycho like Beasley.

Orlando should have just taken the Bynum or Brook+Brooks deal and started rebuilding already.

Yup. Brooks comes cheap and Bynum has a team option next year. And they would have gotten a decent amount of picks with Brook Lopez.

Lopez+Brooks + picks and even Bynum + Ebanks+ Pick is going to look so good to them once Dwight leaves and they get nothing.

 

[Emwitus]

Jan 12 - 21

6 in a row

Oi, my bad.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

posted?

Chris Broussard ‏ @Chris_Broussard


Orlando says it will trade Dwight if he doesn't commit to staying at least next year http://es.pn/wgOWzK

he Los Angeles Lakers, meanwhile, are offering Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher and Metta World Peace (formerly Ron Artest) for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon, the sources said. The same sources said there is a holdup with the Lakers in terms of taking on the contracts of Turkoglu and Duhon.

fisher gone?
fucking do it.
now.

 

[Emwitus]

Lakers tried to play him one on one and crowd the paint. Dallas put Marion on him, trapped him, and tried to force him left and he still got back to his right hand. Lin, like any guard that is worth anything, can't be kept from going to their strong hand if they want to go to their strong hand. Today's rules make it this way and that's the reason why the pg position is so deep now. Because pg are usually the best ball handlers and quickest guys on the court. The only way you can stop a good pg from getting into the lane is by packing it with bodies or forcing him to pass the ball, which is where trapping comes into play. So no, the scouts and coaches that get paid millions by teams were prepared for him after he went off in the NJ game. What's slowed him down(and other guys) is Carmelo's return.

LOL

 

[h3ro]

That's why I said certain type of knee injuries.

You're also saying that the unlikely/freak nature of his previous injuries are a predictor of the unlikeliness of a future injury, when I'm saying the exact opposite. The nature of how the injury occurred doesn't matter. What's significant is that there is damage in the knee and that alone increases his risk of further injury.

Regarding bracing, an example of what you're saying is that having a brace restricting anterior translation of the tibia on femur will stop any sort of ACL injury. It doesn't. It only aides in preventing the motion, not injury. You seem to have some knowledge of the technology behind bracing, again, even my most experienced orthotic reps will attest to the fact that bracing is present for support and restriction but even the most structured brace won't help if the knee if the leg gets positioned in a position which increases stress to the joint which is likely to happen to a basketball player.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Turkeyglue and Llama on the same team, oh my lord

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Convinced that Dwight Howard is trying to manipulate the situation, the Magic are telling teams they will trade him before Thursday's 3 p.m. ET deadline if he does not commit to them beyond this season, according to league sources.

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posted?





fisher gone?
fucking do it.
now.

God yes. Do it Mitch! DO IT!!!!

 

[Canuck76]

This is key.

Too much weight on those legs.

Seems to be doing ok so far but he may never be out of the woods concerning injuries.

Yeah it certainly is a concern. Whoever is trading for Bynum is looking at him running the hypotheticals of what can happen. I'm not as worried as some people, he's playing good minutes this season but i would be making sure he's doing pt, getting iced, whatever they do to keep those guys as injury free as possible.

 

[LuchaShaq]

Yup. Brooks comes cheap and Bynum has a team option next year. And they would have gotten a decent amount of picks with Brook Lopez.

Lopez+Brooks + picks and even Bynum + Ebanks+ Pick is going to look so good to them once Dwight leaves and they get nothing.

Yup for as shitty of a rebounder Lopez is, he's not a bad player and one of about 10 guys who has real post moves in the league.

On a good team Brooks could be a good 6th man scorer + picks.

Bynum would be the clear choice if they thought his knees would hold up.

If they just get cap space odds are they will overpay someone way worse than bynum/lopez.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Lakers tried to play him one on one and crowd the paint. Dallas put Marion on him, trapped him, and tried to force him left and he still got back to his right hand. Lin, like any guard that is worth anything, can't be kept from going to their strong hand if they want to go to their strong hand. Today's rules make it this way and that's the reason why the pg position is so deep now. Because pg are usually the best ball handlers and quickest guys on the court. The only way you can stop a good pg from getting into the lane is by packing it with bodies or forcing him to pass the ball, which is where trapping comes into play. So no, the scouts and coaches that get paid millions by teams were prepared for him after he went off in the NJ game. What's slowed him down(and other guys) is Carmelo's return.

Earl Watson tore up The Lakers D, you only need to cut to 15-18 feet to make The Lakers collapse enough to dish. Fisher can not defend anymore period. Same goes for Kidd. Marion isn't quick enough laterally to defend a fast PG like Lin, that's just obvious.

Lin has a lot to learn and could improve a ton but he gets forced left and trapped much more consistently now than before, you can't deny this. Even when he gets back to his dominate hand and penetrates he too often settles for contested floaters or fades.

 

[reilo]

Mike D'Antoni has resigned as New York Knicks coach, a source tells Y! Sports.

Oh shit

 

[giga]

Shit just got real.

 

[RBH]

Oh shit

Whoa.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Oh shit

THIS IS FOR YOU KNICKS-AGE

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

The Magic would also be interested in a Knicks package of Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler, sources say, should the Knicks make such an offer. The Knicks have discussed the deal internally but have been given no indication that Howard would remain with them long term. That being the case, they have thus far refused the temptation to engage Orlando in trade talks.

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[Herpes Reasons]

Oh shit

oh snaps.

 

[reilo]

Another source confirms D'Antoni ouster with Knicks, tells Y!: "Conflicting visions of club's future...Mutual decision to no longer coach."

My next OT title is going to be legendary.

 

[Meier]

As sad as the whole situation makes me, I'm glad we're "more open" to trading Dwight now. We absolutely have to get something out of him.. not doing so sets us back a decade.

 

[Nori Chan]

Yeah, I'm thinking that's what it is too.

BTW: Here's a trade I saw on RealGM for Chicago, LA, and Boston that I thought would be good for all sides. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7pa24ao

You are now banned from the trade machine.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

God, everything involving this team is so nuts.

 

[darkside31337]

Wonder if he actually resigned or if he "resigned" with sackfuls of money his way out. Either way that shit is crazy.

 

[Emwitus]

And just like that, your team is saved.

 

[giga]

RBH, you hear that? That's Mike Woodson's mustache curling up, as the new head coach of the knickerbockers.

 

[Reave]

J-Rich's contract will get more poisonous as the years go by, Beasley expires next year.

True, but my issue is Beasley's ego about where he'll fit in the rotation. Things are already fucked up with the Magic's morale as it is -- the last thing they need right now is a cray-cray Beasley making matters worse.

I know a good personality doesn't win games, but at least J-Rich isn't a hit to the psyche right now.

 

[darkside31337]

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Ugh. Not Melo. Please not Melo.

 

[KodMoS]

His knees are now weaker than they were before the injuries. Would you argue against this? Bynum weighs a ton. He is a big man with two major knee injuries on his resume. The fact that you seriously are arguing its not a big deal is amazing.

They're weaker but they're healthy and that's why it's not a major concern. It would be a major one is he continued to have a lot of knee issues after his surgery, which he doesn't. Being concerned that he might get injuries again is another story. That's really common feeling.

 

[dabig2]

So the Bulls ended yet another coach. Awesome.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Oh shit

I thought I was seeing things, sad day.

It's hard to not be affected by that dude no matter how shit he has been for the Knicks.

 

[jordan0386]

Fucking bullshit. Why do players always have to win out.

 

[Jon]

Man, he really did get run out of town.

 

[soundscream]

It changes nothing.

I WANT GALLO BACK

 

[charsace]

Earl Watson tore up The Lakers D, you only need to cut to 15-18 feet to make The Lakers collapse enough to dish. Fisher can not defend anymore period. Same goes for Kidd. Marion isn't quick enough laterally to defend a fast PG like Lin, that's just obvious.

Lin has a lot to learn and could improve a ton but he gets forced left and trapped much more consistently now than before, you can't deny this. Even when he gets back to his dominate hand and penetrates he too often settles for contested floaters or fades.

The bolded makes no sense because Marion is the Mavs best perimeter defender and most of the time guards the best perimeter player. They put Marion on him and sent over kidd or whoever to trap him at halfcourt. And Lin still beat them. The only game where Lin has gotten trapped bad is in Miami. Most of the time he dribbles laterally and away from the trap. But intead of making a move towards the lane he looks for melo. Melo who stands on the elbow and forces the team to run the pick and roll farther out than they should have to because he doesn't give a damn.

 

[Nori Chan]

Oh shit

idk why but i read that as re signed lol


Oh and Mike Woodson is the interim coach now

 

[iAmMaximus]

Wowzers...

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

The Los Angeles Lakers, meanwhile, are offering Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher and Metta World Peace (formerly Ron Artest) for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon, the sources said. The same sources said there is a holdup with the Lakers in terms of taking on the contracts of Turkoglu and Duhon.

Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher and Metta World Peace (formerly Ron Artest) for Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon

Derek Fisher and Metta World Peace for Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon

Derek Fisher and Metta World Peace for

 

[Herpes Reasons]

The Lakers and the Bulls are closing in on a mega-blockbuster trade that would change the landscape of the NBA. players involved are unconfirmed at this time but things are heating up

if boozer is in the mix, i......i dont know there's enough vicodin to drown my sorrow.

 

[AgentChris]

It changes nothing.

I WANT GALLO BACK

<3 The Rooster was the best.

 

[charsace]

Fucking bullshit. Why do players always have to win out.

Donnie and D'Antoni were gone the minute Dolan took over and traded for melo. Amar'e would be gone too if Dolan thought he could make it happen.

Now Lin will get benched in favor of Baron because that's what Melo wants. And maybe JR too. Then Lin will walk and blossom into a good starter for another team.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

if boozer is in the mix, i......i dont know there's enough vicodin to drown my sorrow.

Is this new or old???

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

if boozer is in the mix, i......i dont know there's enough vicodin to drown my sorrow.

wut...

Hmmm trade Pau for Deng and Boozer. Then send Boozer and Bynum to Orlando for Dwight.

 

[KodMoS]

if boozer is in the mix, i......i dont know there's enough vicodin to drown my sorrow.

That's fake.

 

[Canuck76]

Oh shit

Good move if true. Management needs to figure out where they're going before they hire another coach.

 

[Emwitus]

The bolded makes no sense because Marion is the Mavs best perimeter defender and most of the time guards the best perimeter player. They put Marion on him and sent over kidd or whoever to trap him at halfcourt. And Lin still beat them. The only game where Lin has gotten trapped bad is in Miami. Most of the time he dribbles laterally and away from the trap. But intead of making a move towards the lane he looks for melo. Melo who stands on the elbow and forces the team to run the pick and roll farther out than they should have to because he doesn't give a damn.

False. marion is effective against sg like bryant, lebron,wade or pierce not pgs.

 

[Herpes Reasons]

Is this new or old???

new news.
less than an hour old.

wut...

Hmmm trade Pau for Deng and Boozer. Then send Boozer and Bynum to Orlando for Dwight.

i thought new traded players can't be traded

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

The bolded makes no sense because Marion is the Mavs best perimeter defender and most of the time guards the best perimeter player. They put Marion on him and sent over kidd or whoever to trap him at halfcourt. And Lin still beat them. The only game where Lin has gotten trapped bad is in Miami. Most of the time he dribbles laterally and away from the trap. But intead of making a move towards the lane he looks for melo. Melo who stands on the elbow and forces the team to run the pick and roll farther out than they should have to because he doesn't give a damn.

Lin is much faster than Marion. It's that simple.

Marion guards 3s the majority of the time who generally aren't as fast as Lin. Marion can be their best perimeter defender and still not be able to keep up with a fast pg. It's not that complicated. Just like how Lowry is a good defender against PGs but can't stay with taller 2s because of a height disadvantage.