2012 NBA Mar |OT| Knicks fans now drinking JD in straight shots

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It's not the players they drafted, its' the type of player. JJ Reddick? Luke Jackson? Those guys' ceilings are role players at best. Complementary players.

Here were the next nine picks after JJ Redick:

Hilton Armstrong
Thabo
Ronnie Brewer
Cedric Simmons
Rodney Carney
Shawne Williams
Oleksiy Pecherov
Quincy Douby
Renaldo Balkman


Yeah.
 
So basically the Magic should only have picked the steals of those respective classes for them to have drafted well? 2005 and 2006 weren't loaded years either.

No, not steals, but I could at least respect it if they shot for high ceiling players with potentially more varied skill sets. And it goes beyond just the drafting, if you can't add a player via the draft, then you free up cap space and try to lure another young blue chip to come and play with your super star...you don't give Rashard Lewis $120 million or then proceed to trade for the corpses of Gilbert Arenas, Vince Carter, Shaquille O'Neal, Hedo Turkyglue, and Antawn Jaimson.
 
No, not steals, but I could at least respect it if they shot for high ceiling players with potentially more varied skill sets. And it goes beyond just the drafting, if you can't add a player via the draft, then you free up cap space and try to lure another young blue chip to come and play with your super star...you don't give Rashard Lewis $120 million or then proceed to trade for the corpses of Gilbert Arenas, Vince Carter, Shaquille O'Neal, Hedo Turkyglue, and Antawn Jaimson.

The carter trade was pretty good. it was Alston, lee, and Battie for Carter and Anderson.

Otis won that trade. Anderson alone made it worth it.
 
lol, they retook the pic because of no JJ.

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Why the fuck is Dwight doing product placement in a personal photo?
 
It is pretty hard to add championship-caliber talent to complement your superstar without cap space. Mavs weren't able to do that until last year, and that's because they had a pseudo-TPE.

Still, Otis is an awful GM. He overpays for everybody.
 
It is pretty hard to add championship-caliber talent to complement your superstar without cap space. Mavs weren't able to do that until last year, and that's because they had a pseudo-TPE.

Still, Otis is an awful GM. He overpays for everybody.

How else are you gonna get talent to go to Orlando?
 
One would land Beasley on the Lakers in a three-team deal that would send Portland Trail Blazers guard Jamal Crawford to the Wolves and Luke Ridnour from Minnesota to Portland. Los Angeles would give up one of its two 2012 first round draft picks in the deal and use its $8.9 million trade exception, acquired when it traded Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December, to absorb Beasley's approximate $6.3 million salary.

DO NOT WANT WITHOUT SESSIONS. Blake staying means no sessions. nooooo
 
No, not steals, but I could at least respect it if they shot for high ceiling players with potentially more varied skill sets. And it goes beyond just the drafting, if you can't add a player via the draft, then you free up cap space and try to lure another young blue chip to come and play with your super star...you don't give Rashard Lewis $120 million or then proceed to trade for the corpses of Gilbert Arenas, Vince Carter, Shaquille O'Neal, Hedo Turkyglue, and Antawn Jaimson.

Otis 100% whiffed on the Gilbert and Suns players, I'll never defend that trash. But once again you're using hindsight to unfairly judge things. Vince Carter came off a 20/5/5 season and the Magic only gave up Courtney Lee to get him while also getting Ryan Anderson as a throw-in. Rashard Lewis was overpaid, however he was arguably the best free agent that year and it was the last time the Magic would have significant capspace as Jameer and Dwight's extensions were kicking in. The only other alternative was Vince that year I think.
 
Dwight was going to save her from porn. ROFL.

Dwight was going to save Mary Carey from porn by having her suck him off in the bathroom porno-style...wait...what?

Anyway it's hard to rank the worst-breakups when there really is enough blame to go around in all these situations. Only the Cavs FO get a pass because Cleveland had the best record in the NBA two years running, so it was plausible that Lebron might return. That in itself quelled a lot of the in-season drama.

But the Nuggets, Suns, Hornets, and Magic were all under-performing and weren't in the galactic quadrant of competing for a championship when their superstar contracts were nearing their end. Do you really think there would have been that much Melo-drama and Howard-Indecision if either the Nuggets or Magic were elite teams? Of course not.

A lot of the blame rests with the front offices for not reading the writing on the wall. As Ninja and a few others already pointed out, they should have moved their superstars in the off-season. But they wanted to cling to the hope that their superstar would stay. Nevermind that the 2010 free agency changed everything and now just about every all-star wants to form a super-team. They're going to bolt as soon as they get the chance.

So yeah Dwight looks a hot mess right now. Just as Melo did a year ago. But it was management that created the situation by being delusional in the off-season. Unless you can bring in a legit all-star (ala Lakers in '08), then you have to trade their ass in the off-season.
 
this whole thing makes me wonder what that supposed Kobe/Dwight phone conversation from early in the season went down like that made Dwight no longer want to go to LA. Kobe probably wanted to talk basketball and how Dwight would fit in with their offense, and Dwight probably kept asking Kobe if he knew any good movie agents out in Hollywood and Kobe was like
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Magic drafted Lee with their 08 pick, then traded him, Rafer Alston and Tony Battie, to the New Jersey Nets for Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson.

They could have kept him or drafted Batum instead.

BWAHAH

revisionist Magic could look like this:

Rondo/Sessions
Courtney Lee/ Monta Ellis
Danny Granger/Steve Novak/Tony Allen
Paul Milsap/David Lee
Dwight Howard/ Gortat

It doesn't help that Orlando is quick to package their picks in trades as well. What a dumb organization.
 
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Howard "I have gotten some bad advice. I apologize for this circus I have caused to the fans of our city. They didn't deserve none of this."

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took him long enough to post this....
 
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Howard "I have gotten some bad advice. I apologize for this circus I have caused to the fans of our city. They didn't deserve none of this."

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Maybe Lakers give up the other pick for Sessions


Blake Sessions
Kobe Glock
Metta Beas
Pau McBob
Bynum Bynum/Pau/Murphy

=(

Not enough in the TPE if the TPE is for beasley. Sending Blake + Barnes out would allow it...
 
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took him long enough to post this....

Im anti Dwight at this point. This is as bad or worse than Lebron. (pre decision. post decision takes the cake forever)

You got bad advice? a 10 year old could point out all the things you did wrong. I guess common sense isnt so common.
 
Im anti Dwight at this point. This is as bad or worse than Lebron. (pre decision. post decision takes the cake forever)

You got bad advice? a 10 year old could point out all the things you did wrong. I guess common sense isnt so common.

my sentiments exactly.
dwight is yesterday's news.
all aboard the beasley train.
we got rid of one pothead for another.
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