The next Starfox is pretty much guaranteed to be outsourced though. It'll either go to treasure or retro or (heaven forbid) tecmo. Nintendo has made it clear that they have no further interest in developing that franchise in house.
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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The next Starfox is pretty much guaranteed to be outsourced though. It'll either go to treasure or retro or (heaven forbid) tecmo. Nintendo has made it clear that they have no further interest in developing that franchise in house.
Smiles and Cries
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sorry but Sakurai is crazy about content and can create hundreds of characters and monsters
SORA can become as huge as Game Freak
NFC is in the WiiU for a reason and Figure moe zoku Japanese will eat that stuff up
They pretty much have no interest in it at all really, and didn't Miyamoto say the sales of SF643D would determine the franchises fate?
Shikamaru Ninja
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That is the opposite of what was mentioned. Miyamoto expressed concern the games were being developed outside his jurisdiction. Which they were by being handled by Nintendo SPD. But Star Fox 64 3D was brought back into Nintendo EAD (although Q-Games co-developed it).
Next Star Fox will be developed through EAD. Someone else being involved is likely but it is still a different scenario than how Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault were developed.
Hell yes, Takamaru bros in the house. :lol
I need my fast draw swordsman style to compliment my flowing elegant swordsman main in Marth. Lyn was so close to being what I wanted, but Takamaru would be even more hype for me.
On the other hands hardware cycles might not be synchronised any more. That means Wii U releases this year. Xbox 360 next year, and ps4 in 2014 or maybe 2015 (Argument sake). Nintendo might start of a new hardware cycle in 2016. While the other consoles have some life left in them. Stalling hardware sales of the competitors, and consumers will be in a nut-shack, as well as developers, they wont know which hardware to support anymore.
bgassassin
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Pokemon NFC-based figurines will cause damage to the Japanese infrastructure.
personally i think that the skylander approach would totally kill the pokemon franchise... you cannot expect people to buy each of the 152 pokemon in the pokedex... that would totally drive the franchise into the dust...
And StarTropics, because StarTropics.
This is now my de facto answer for these topics regarding old Nintendo IP resurrections. Mystery At Murasame Castle or just something involving awesome action slaher/platforming with Takamaru is runner up.
Your avatar.. is that Mike with a Pokeball yo-yo?
Wait, what? D:
bgassassin
Member
Nah. That's fine since it's most likely to be software emulated.
We got official confirmation that Wii U will not use 1T-SRAM.
AceBandage
Banned
No, just that how they will do BC is in question.
It will definitely be able to play Wii games.
Pish-posh poppycock! Ridiculous.
Smiles and Cries
Member
My bet is that Smash Bros Wii will be the first to use NFC-based figurines to give 3rd Parties a chance to get in the game
then Pokemon will kill Otaku Land
Followed by all the MOE NFC-based figurines with major boobies
LOVE PLUS WiiU
And many Ninja Boobie figurines to follow
I don't see Nintendo passing that up if the tech is there and these thing may be sold at premium prices too *Shudder*
this would be WiiU's hidden secret to surpassing even Wii sales
pieatorium
Member
Buy them in packs like the cards, they be random, can trade with freinds for the ones you want.
AceBandage
Banned
I don't think they'll do plastic figurines.
More that they'd do cards.
They're much cheaper and easier to sell.
More that they'd do cards.
They're much cheaper and easier to sell.
I dunno. I just doubt it. My hopes for starfox have been beaten down and crushed too many times :-(
pieatorium
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Good points, easier to keep together for people aswell
But knowing Nintendo, there could be a cap on usage, 1 use per account, etc. EDIT: Was there a thing like that on eReader? Never had one.
Off topic: Australia didn't get Game Gear on eShop this week, enjoy 'em ya lucky bastards! D:
I think part of the issue is that there's no concrete feel for what the series is anymore. Is it a Zelda clone? Is it a space shooter? A third-person shooter?
You know, I'm honestly not surprised regarding the recent news on 1T-SRAM. I figured something like this was in mind from way back in OT2 when a more attentive me was speculating with bg on the types of RAM to be seen in the console. The 28nm comment though definitely threw a curveball in any initial guesses I put out though.
Slight tangent: Come on 32MB eDRAM + 1.5-2GB GDDR3/5 with a good SPU/ROP number.
It's Mike with his traditional yo-yo circled by a ring of Marvel VS. Capcom 3 characters if we're to be specific.
Slight tangent: Come on 32MB eDRAM + 1.5-2GB GDDR3/5 with a good SPU/ROP number.
It's Mike with his traditional yo-yo circled by a ring of Marvel VS. Capcom 3 characters if we're to be specific.
AceBandage
Banned
I really wouldn't count on that.
Smiles and Cries
Member
3D printer prices are droping all the time and the tech is improving
but still you'd kill a mechanic of the game... you won't have to really catch your pokemons anymore... and it's not really practical to carry around all your pokemon cards to play the game...
i think that this approach will be successful used in a lot of games, i'm just not too sure that pokemon is the right fit for it.
Oh, I know.
Prepare for $60 Mario Galaxy HD.
I want Star Fox 64 2 damn it.
Nintendo needs to stop fucking outsourcing it and let EAD make a true, on rails Arwing sequel.
AceBandage
Banned
But then you have to factor in the cost of the plastic, the packaging, shipping, buying large amounts of shelf space.
OR
You can just print up some cards, ship and sell them cheaply and people will buy them in the millions.
And that's bad?!
I don't think it should be if they can easily replace the 3MB framebuffer. Ideally, they'll be able to use the GPU's eDRAM to sub for the 24MB they integrated into Hollywood. Maybe they'll integrate it entirely into the memory controller for the eDRAM pool.
Smiles and Cries
Member
regardless if they go AR cards route and not toys they have set up all the needed tech to make a killing
they seem to be going AR cards with KI already and when the Pokemon versions of those fighing cards hit WOW
still the NFC-based figurines thing will be exploited by someone on the WiiU it might as well be Nintendo even if the have to open dozens of NINTENDO WORLD STORES to do it... APPLE DID it and now are huge Nintendo can become a monster too
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Mario Galaxy 3 / Universe will be Nintendo's AAAA game ^__^
*cough*Bandai*cough*
Yes.. and just like they did with Wind Waker, the pre-order bonus will be Galaxy 1 & 2 HD on one disc!
AceBandage
Banned
My money is on Ubisoft making a whole line of NFC Rabbids to coincide with their new show.
but still guys, wouldn't figurines steal away a core game mechanic from pokemon?
you won't have to ever catch you pokemons again, you'd just have to buy them... and wouldn't be not practical to carry around your cards to play? [i'm speaking about an hypothetical pokemon game for a handheld of course]
you won't have to ever catch you pokemons again, you'd just have to buy them... and wouldn't be not practical to carry around your cards to play? [i'm speaking about an hypothetical pokemon game for a handheld of course]
Smiles and Cries
Member
I think so these NFC-based figurines may never leave Japan but it is going to happen
It will be AAAA to the power of 1,000,0000
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Plus, Nintendo has been making cards for 100 years... They still do it in Japan.
StarFox could be THE game to demonstrate all of what Wii U is if people would be a little creative:
- Excellent graphical showcase with the scale of the levels and number of enemy units on screen at a time. Great audio and VA clarity thanks to roomy discs and HDMI digital audio support.
- Four player online multiplayer/coop with each padlet having real time video feed of your four person party chatting it up and playing along with you, thus showing off Wii U's online potential.
- Asymmetric game play where padlet controls Great Fox and players try to play different flight combat modes like capture the (moving) flag or main game coop with Great Fox dropping bombs on things or leaving care packages to underperforming squad members
Basically, take StarFox 64 as a base, add liberal amounts of online interaction and new campaign material, drop everything that isn't Top Gun tier one liners an a simple "omg, we're getting fucked up! StarFox group, go and fuck them up harder!" for the story, keep the different ship mechanics, drop on foot missions unless they get all Sin & Punishment styled and to accommodate online, maybe make factions like the Star Fox 4 man cell, the Star Wolf four person cell, and maybe one or two more cells (Bill & four randoms from the space fleet at Katina/Katt & some randoms for the last group?) to accomodate 12 - 16 player madness in multiplayer or different campaigns for the coop main game.
- Excellent graphical showcase with the scale of the levels and number of enemy units on screen at a time. Great audio and VA clarity thanks to roomy discs and HDMI digital audio support.
- Four player online multiplayer/coop with each padlet having real time video feed of your four person party chatting it up and playing along with you, thus showing off Wii U's online potential.
- Asymmetric game play where padlet controls Great Fox and players try to play different flight combat modes like capture the (moving) flag or main game coop with Great Fox dropping bombs on things or leaving care packages to underperforming squad members
Basically, take StarFox 64 as a base, add liberal amounts of online interaction and new campaign material, drop everything that isn't Top Gun tier one liners an a simple "omg, we're getting fucked up! StarFox group, go and fuck them up harder!" for the story, keep the different ship mechanics, drop on foot missions unless they get all Sin & Punishment styled and to accommodate online, maybe make factions like the Star Fox 4 man cell, the Star Wolf four person cell, and maybe one or two more cells (Bill & four randoms from the space fleet at Katina/Katt & some randoms for the last group?) to accomodate 12 - 16 player madness in multiplayer or different campaigns for the coop main game.
AceBandage
Banned
It wouldn't be for a main game, obviously.
More like for some kind of TCG. With online and maybe AR.
Smiles and Cries
Member
you can't use the toy unless you caught them in game?
if you scan the toy and you have not caught it in game you can only use them at the stadium for a single fight leaving the core game alone
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
oh ok, that's makes sense
what would be the point of having the card/toy then? better stats if you have the card of the pokemon you own?