Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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StreetsAhead
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Huh, go figure. I've been away for the last two days, more or less so I'm still catching up and this caught my eye.
pieatorium
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Gritty fps reboot of Pokemon Rangers
It's okay Miya-samus forgives you.
Dillon's Rolling Western fizzled out for me. It was great, but didn't do much to keep me in. Same with Metroid (NES), the newer CoD titles, a few others.
StreetsAhead
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Feel glad I'm feeling grateful through my incredible tiredness/shame at posting something so old.
Thunder Monkey
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Mach Rider needs a more GTA style reboot. Large open world. Lots of bike riding, searching for survivors, and killing Quadrunners. Let Retro try their hand at a Nintendoesque open world TPS.
[post=36078242]Funny you should say that[/post]
Thunder Monkey
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I like you.
I had this idea years ago, and I've always wanted to see it. Just set in a different perspective. Though I can see how FPS would be more up Retros alley.
I only wrote fps because I basically took Shadow of Chernobyl and added bikes.
TheCongressman1
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That was a surprisingly amazing video. At first I though, Oh no, more crap jpop, but it was hilarious. I aprove of your idea.
This girl doesn't give a SHIT. I approve.
EvilDick34
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Ok, stupid question incoming but those of you who have watched the Tokyo street demo i have a question. How in the hell did Nintendo capture enough scenery to allow the WiiU pad to look underneath the car and behind it at any angle??? Am i missing something?!
Another long day at work, time to sit down and shoot the sh......... wait, we got news?! Cool.
Lack of 1T-SRAM tells me that software emulation is on the way, but knowing Nintendo and its desire for 100% backwards compatibility, they'll probably do it all for EVERY game in-house. Gonna pray for 1080p up-rezzing (Reggie's comments on the matter can go to hell)
They will.
LOL, more like the Old Spice Body Wash commercial of games.
Glad to see Starfox love.
I'm glad it is going back to internal development... heck, maybe EAD Tokyo could take a crack at it in between Mario titles.
You had me until "lose the story". The story just needs to be APPLIED better. I don't mind a fair amount of banter during gameplay, it's things like overdrawn cutscenes that spoil it for me. And I actually liked how they evolved the characters a little, with new additions that grow the universe. Panther Caroso is the best thing to happen to Star Fox characters EVER, just because of how ridiculous he is without knowing it.
There is ONE thing the franchise is missing, though. No game since the original has ever had a captivating soundtrack, the first one was unparalleled. Hajime Hirasawa MUST return to this series.
It has the possibility to be truly epic, with crazy dogfights and squad-based tactics and even small amounts of that non-linear gameplay from the unreleased Star Fox 2. I said it before, and I'll say it again: I want my furry space opera, Nintendo, and you should be ashamed of taking that away from me.
Judging by the thread, pretty high if it goes back into Nintendo's direct handling.
*looks at frostbite's avatar*
...... really, can't think of ONE good movie adaptation from a game?!
Lack of 1T-SRAM tells me that software emulation is on the way, but knowing Nintendo and its desire for 100% backwards compatibility, they'll probably do it all for EVERY game in-house. Gonna pray for 1080p up-rezzing (Reggie's comments on the matter can go to hell)
They will.
LOL, more like the Old Spice Body Wash commercial of games.
With that rumor of Nintendo bringing new IPs, and Miyamoto's baby on the way, if any franchise is going on the back-burner, it'll be Star Fox. I bet.
By baby I mean new IP too guys.
Glad to see Starfox love.
I'm glad it is going back to internal development... heck, maybe EAD Tokyo could take a crack at it in between Mario titles.
You had me until "lose the story". The story just needs to be APPLIED better. I don't mind a fair amount of banter during gameplay, it's things like overdrawn cutscenes that spoil it for me. And I actually liked how they evolved the characters a little, with new additions that grow the universe. Panther Caroso is the best thing to happen to Star Fox characters EVER, just because of how ridiculous he is without knowing it.
There is ONE thing the franchise is missing, though. No game since the original has ever had a captivating soundtrack, the first one was unparalleled. Hajime Hirasawa MUST return to this series.
It has the possibility to be truly epic, with crazy dogfights and squad-based tactics and even small amounts of that non-linear gameplay from the unreleased Star Fox 2. I said it before, and I'll say it again: I want my furry space opera, Nintendo, and you should be ashamed of taking that away from me.
Judging by the thread, pretty high if it goes back into Nintendo's direct handling.
*looks at frostbite's avatar*
...... really, can't think of ONE good movie adaptation from a game?!
I would say the car had cameras all around it, if that's possible, or they are very skilled editors.
EvilDick34
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Something about the video seems off, it looks rendered to me when i watch it. If you look at the street lights on the left hand side, they look weird as hell.
Well shit, nevermind. Saw a much better feed of the demo on IGN and it is just camera footage, damn D: .
The Street demo used a 360 panorama camera, not too different from the one below.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index.html
They then went the extra step and took the footage of the street (from previous frames) and put it on top of the car so you wouldn't see it.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/01/world/haiti.360/index.html
They then went the extra step and took the footage of the street (from previous frames) and put it on top of the car so you wouldn't see it.
Waiting for news back when I was 12+ was a lot more bearable when we didn't have 24/7 gaming news sites. I relied mostly on magazines and looked forward to them each month. Was so excited when the magazine would mention e3 coming up in the next months issue. Now I spend a year waiting, picking like a vulture at any morsel we can find. Would love to go back to the days when e3 would sneak up on me.
Cygnus X-1
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I just cannot believe we got a THIRD thread on Wii U SPECULATION.
Crazy GAF is the best GAF though.
Crazy GAF is the best GAF though.
With the 1T-SRAM gone, I really hope Nintendo can do a mixture of software and hardware emulation to render games, similar to the Vita does to PSP games. Seems unlikely though they will do it for the thousands of Wii games though...
Agreed about the furry space opera. I WANT MY STAR FOX BACK NINTENDO, AND BY GOLLY, YOU WILL GIVE IT TO ME. Incidentally, if anyone's seen Macross, I'd like the dogfights to be as chaotic and similar in scale as those.
I was talking about movies turned into games, not games turned into movies. Movies turned into games invariably are a cheap cash-in 99% of the time.
ultrazilla
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I love my PS3 and Xbox 360 but man, I am beginning to really want a new "next gen" system and the Wii-U will be on sale this year!!(Hopefully if that doesn't change).
It's just awesome that Nintendo is *finally* going hi-def and we'll be seeing Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Starfox in 1080p goodness!
With the 3DS and Wii-U at E3, Nintendo should have one hell of a show.
It's just awesome that Nintendo is *finally* going hi-def and we'll be seeing Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Starfox in 1080p goodness!
With the 3DS and Wii-U at E3, Nintendo should have one hell of a show.
you don't have to worry about it... nintendo said over and over again that they are releasing this year the console... and because of some public statements some of us even believe on a fall release
and heck yeah, this E3 will be great!
Right now there are so many devs under NDA with nintendo...
ps: welcome to the thread
I've mentioned a few times how I would love some flash memory as a cache. I like the cut of your jib.
Similar, yes. But TOO crazy and it just becomes a 3D bullet-hell shooter, which is one of the reasons I don't want Treasure to touch it.
Yeah, Goldeneye truly was the one and only exception to that, to be quite blunt.
Speaking of Hajime Hirasawa's Star Fox soundtrack, I was considering making a thread on GAF about my disappointment with modern game soundtracks. People seem to go crazy over the blandest music around here, and the Dreamcast was really the last bastion of proper soundtracks in gaming (laughable 80s rock in Sonic notwithstanding) and Nintendo's continued reliance on pumped-up MIDI tunes for EVERYTHING and their over-reliance on Koji Kondo has been getting on my nerves. But another day perhaps.
Where does this come from? Have I missed something?
EDIT: Oh, found Röstis post.
EDIT2: But IMHO this doesn't mean that it couldn't use 1T-SRAM, just that it would come from Invensas and not MoSys.
Nintendo has a crippling fear of paying license fees for their hardware components if they can avoid it, and I can't blame them.
Here's a quote that bugs me:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1165674p1.html
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1165674p1.html
So Iwata understands that consumers have multiple consoles and he understands that consumers will buy third party games for the most powerful console. So why the fuck would Iwata release another system only a little more powerful than the 360/PS3? That doesn't help solve the issue of people having other platforms at home to buy games for. That doesn't solve the lower graphical capabilities issue when the next Xbox and next Playstation come out.
Iwata told you the specs?
No, but what I'm saying is, Iwata realizes the mistakes of the Wii so I don't believe the Wii U will only be slightly more powerful than 360/PS3.
If anything, this seems like confirmation that they'll take specs more serious this time around. I don't think Iwata wants Wii U to get the inferior versions of third party games.
I don't see anything in that quote about specs. Hell, we don't know anything about specs at this point. No reason to get upset until we know more about it. Hopefully that will be soon.
It's that case man. That case. It's too small to dissipate heat. That's the only thing that makes me think this will be a 'Dreamcast' style console (noticeably more powerful than current gen, but noticeably less powerful than the gen it will technically belong to). Of course, that's just my speculation. The case design could change wildly between now and release or they might have some awesome cooling solution.
I agree, the case is awfully small. I won't be shocked if it was disappointing power-wise, but who knows.
The quote is not about specs. The quote is about Iwata acknowledging the fact that consumers own multiple consoles and that has a big impact on third party games. Consumers have more choices on which console to buy a game for.
In that same quote, Iwata acknowledges that the Wii ports of Call of Duty weren't popular because of the graphics.
My point is I think Wii U might have a chance at being more future proof so they don't run into a problem with third party games selling like shit because people bought the superior ps4/xbox 720 versions over the inferior Wii U versions.
You are assuming, of course, that Microsoft and Sony's next machines are going to blow the Wii U out of the water. Evidence so far seems to suggest an Xbox > GC > PS2 like scenario, which means a repeat of this generation is far less likely to occur (because of graphical capability).
There's just no way they can throw down on that level. Especially since the other machines are going to be released so much later than the Wii U. The PS2 survived the Xbox, Dreamcast, and Gamecube with sheer hype. With the exception of the Dreamcast it was definitely weaker than the other two machines, but they had a good library of games and enough developer support to keep the momentum going even after the other machines were released.
I think Nintendo is going to be in the same situation. There's no way they can really compete with the other machines on the power front. So perhaps they'll go after keeping developers happy by providing services and a machine that (while not up the exactly the same specs) is close enough. As long as they sell well out of the gate and move software, I don't think this is going to be a problem.
They still sell 1 million+ each, and often to people like myself who do own other platforms but buy the Wii versions for their superior controls (and some other less obvious improvements), which is something I wish he would acknowledge.
DaSorcerer7
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the GC had a small case too, don't underestimate nintendo's hardware engineers.
Cheesecakebobby
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Good post. For me personally, Wii U doesn't have to compete with PS4/ 720 in terms of power. It just has to offer something different. Hopefully developers feel the same and want to take advantage of its unique features.
It did, but not as 'flat' as the Wii-U case. It also had a big fan in the side IIRC. I'd wager the internal volume was larger given that the GC was a top-loader and the Wii-U is a tray-loader.
Let's pretend..hypothetically speaking....that the Wii U was dramatically less powerful than the 720/PS4. Now the Wii U could end up being the PS2 of this generation like the above poster said. But this is all hypothetical...
If you show a third party game to a gamer and asked which one is the definitive version:
A) The slightly better graphics version or B) The version that takes full advantage of an innovative controller
Which do you think multi-console gamers would pick as the definitive version of that 3rd party game? I think most gamers are dumb and would take slightly better graphics over amazing controller features.
Iwata and Nintendo are banking on the idea that gamers will buy the Wii U version of games cause of the controller...but Nintendo had banked on gamers to buy the Wii versions of 3rd party games cause of controller and that didn't pan out most of the time. People went for graphics over controller on most third party games.
Third party games have to have the best graphics on a nintendo console, or third party sales on a nintendo system will always be the least compared to competitors. That's only reason why Wii U third party sales will be good in the first year or two. Because Wii U will have the definitive versions of 360/PS3 games for the first year or two (unless Nintendo shocks us with a system that is on par with next xbox/ps4)
Well. The controllers weren't that great.
Well if MS is not launching/showing this year its because they dont have tech suficientely more powerful to put in the box without melting, still lets see what a less than a year will do...
jump_button
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next gen no one going to see a big jump in graphics its all going to be us nick picking
TheExplodingHead
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Not to mention the GCN architecture is in no way applicable heat-wise to current gen multi-core/GPU outputs.
Simply put, if they keep the same case size their either going for 32nm or less, or it'll be minimally more powerful than the 360/PS3. No way Nintendo is investing in a top shelf/expensive cooling solution...and even that would increase case size.